12:49 AM
@MichaelClark put in another context where my suggested definition is more clear... would you argue that investing in a child's education isn't an investment
it doesn't pay back directly finances
it's an indirect relationship
but when dealing with financial value, you can attribute financial value back to a lot since money is itself just a representation of effort exchanged for things we want or need
and that value exists whether moving through money or moving through barter
it's really looking for taking an expenditure of resources to get more value than those resources were, but that value can take many different shapes