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1:54 AM
@MOehm CARPATHIAN MOUNTAINS (Pole = N, anagram with everything before "after restructuring")
 
@Sp3000 Dang it that was not even close to what I was going for... I was thinking about a Halberdier and haft
 
2:52 AM
CCCC Statistics
Most prolific CCCCer: Rubio, with 45 CCCCs
 
Really? Not Deus?
 
Most clues on one day: 19 on January 18
 
Should we bookmark CCCCs into a conversation? Is it possible?
 
Most days unsolved: 7 for this clue [edited to use correct link as noted by boboquack].
Way ahead of you.
 
@GentlePurpleRain Wrong link: this clue
 
2:57 AM
If anyone sees any errors or omissions, let me know.
@boboquack Righto. Sorry about that. Got the right date.
 
That's alright
 
@boboquack Deusovi has 38, so he's 7 behind Rubio.
Total CCCCs: 335
 
3:20 AM
Woo, I got shortest clue!
(Also, the heading "standard clue" is... very diplomatic)
 
@Deusovi Tries to think of a shorter clue :P
 
How long did it take you to compile that?
 
@Deus Is this a valid clue? Class. (6) PERIOD
 
"Class" and "period" aren't really synonyms. "Class" doesn't refer to a length of time, but an event.
 
@Deusovi Maybe it's a localisation then [school class = period]
 
3:26 AM
I know what you mean - they're subtly different though. "Class" to me means the event (that happens to take place at a certain time interval). If someone asks "what class do you have next?" you don't say "9:30 to 10:15".
("M∈nap, (5)" would probably be fine if you really wanted a shorter clue. It wouldn't be a good one, but it'd be valid.)
(Or "organ: (5)")
Oooh, that gives me an idea for a clue.
@Sp3000, have you put up the next clue?
@boboquack To be fair, I was writing "Plenty of Clues" for a while.
 
@Deusovi I've been working on it for a couple of weeks, on and off.
@Deusovi It's also rather arbitrary. I tried to use my best judgement, but there may be some that are marked that shouldn't be, and vice-versa.
Let me tell you, it was difficult sometimes to locate the solutions and/or the explanations. That's why I thought this would be useful. When you think, "Oh yeah, there was a CCCC three days ago that looked really interesting. What was the solution?", you don't have to go digging through pages of archives trying to find the solution.
 
@Deusovi Oh no, he's trying to hold up the chain for 8 days or longer :P
 
I don't care about my clues' difficulty. I want them to be fun, not easy or hard - if a certain level of difficulty happens to be more fun, then I attempt to do that
 
But the same attitude exists here as on the main site: If it's solved quickly, it must not be a great puzzle. Which is patently untrue.
@Deusovi How about Era. (6) ?
 
@GentlePurpleRain That's fine.
 
3:40 AM
Sorry, wasn't asking for affirmation, just suggesting a shorter clue.
But thanks for the affirmation! :)
 
@Deusovi What about (5,5). (5)?
 
Oh! Sorry, I've been in "cryptic help mode" for a while.
 
@boboquack POINT
 
+1
 
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Q: The Black Cat is Never the End

DanTheDarkBirdI hear that you guys like puzzles, so here's one. Recently, an individual has been anonymously linking a YouTube video to people through the website Curious Cat. It's an anon user, and a heart emoji accompanies the link. Myself and a few Twitter friends were sent the video. It's a short clip of a...

 
3:43 AM
@Deusovi Woop, sorry. Solved during lunch break, then work kicked in
 
That's fine!
 
CCCC: "Select Firework's singer lass", as Spooner might say (6, 4)
Easy one to keep things rolling
@boboquack I'd personally consider that unfair, if only because I'm starting to feel like ? for definition by example isn't particularly good...
 
Yeah.
I still don't like ? for def by example
(Actually, that doesn't work even if you allow ? --> def by example, since the example is on the wrong side.)
 
@Sp3000 You could just go with Tip. (5) -- it's shorter anyway.
Using ? for def by example, you could make an &lit: &? (11)
The answer being PUNCTUATION.
No, wait. That doesn't work. There's no def.
I mean no wordplay.
One or the other.
Now I'm confusing myself.
 
4:02 AM
I don't see two ways that could work.
 
4:13 AM
@GentlePurpleRain #REF! in the Most prolific author/solver row.
 
4:35 AM
What does that mean?
 
It means the formula has a reference issue.
 
5:06 AM
Thanks @Rubio :-)
 
5:21 AM
@GentlePurpleRain Wow! That's awesome.
 
wait, what?
I have more C4s than anyone?
I think we need to count vali...er, standard ones instead. :)
 
@GentlePurpleRain Checked my own ones and spotted one error: 174's solution is INNOVATION (IN NATION [in public] surrounds OV [I speak "of"]; def. CHANGE)
@Rubio The column of shame. :)
 
@Alconja Yeah I am pretty sure I have more in that column than I really wanted compiled evidence of ;)
But this is cool. Thanks @GentlePurpleRain for doing that
 
@GentlePurpleRain I too compiled almost 80% of them. :-) Was going to post it once I was done. Seems, no need now.
 
5:38 AM
@GentlePurpleRain 316, "HIDDEN (concealed)" should actually be "HID (concealed) DEN (refuge)". I missed that the solver missed that initially.
 
6:00 AM
@Sp3000 CHERRY PICK
 
@Sp3000 Yep, correct, but you knew that already :)
 
6:37 AM
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Q: Floor Arrangement

Learning user Ten people G, H, I, J, K, L, W, X, Y and Z live in a building with four floors. Each floor has 3 flats flat 1, flat 2, and flat 3 in the same order from left to right. Ground floor is numbered floor 1 and top most floor is floor 4. Each flat is built in such...

 
7:02 AM
@xnor Yep, nice. (Surface wasn't the best, but I had trouble getting it to sound neat)
 
@Sp3000 i took embarrassingly long to realize "cherry" actually did fit the clue
I have a clue but it might be invalid -- can I check with you?
 
Sure
 
CCCC: Eccentric bathes in liquor (8)
 
7:42 AM
@xnor ABSINTHE (anag. bathes in)
 
@Techidiot yup, nice!
 
Anyone know a good MP4-GIF converter (preferably that will be the right size for uploading to imgur)?
 
You can check the tools list on meta for one
Should be under 'graphic tools' I think
 
CCCC: A traveler in lead is cliché (7)
 
Is that lead noun of lead verb?
 
7:47 AM
In the surface reading, it's a noun. In the wordplay, it's cryptic.
 
Not Tech, but I'm going to guess noun
Is it meant to be (7)?
 
@BeastlyGerbil Didn't find it there. Found it on graphics, though: graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/46656/…
 
it really does seem like it's (7)
 
That would mean the traveler synonym would have to be 3
If what I think the clue is suggesting is corecct
 
Sid
@GarethMcCaughan okay. Thank you. I thought I had a nice idea there.
@BeastlyGerbil lead could easily mean Pb
 
7:55 AM
lol
(7)
RO please take care of that
Sorry guys, was in a rush
 
@xnor Feel free to say it if you have a clue in mind :)
 
thanks, but I don't feel up to making another one tonight
 
Cool, didn't know that you could haggle for letter counts. I offer 6. :)
 
:p @MOehm
 
Sid
I go for 2.
 
7:59 AM
In that case @Techidiot P(ROVER)B
 
What, only two? Two is too few. I've got empty grids to fill!
 
Sid
Proverb= cliche? ...no. Cliche means something overused and which has lost its significance. Proverbs are over used but they haven't lost their significance
@MOehm okay, penultimate offer:3 :P
 
@Sid: It's five or I'm going to sell my words to the Scrabble people. I don't depend on you cruciverbalists, you know.
 
@Sid proverb comes up as a strong synonym
 
Sid
@MOehm 4 it is. Not a letter more.
@BeastlyGerbil yes it works. Just my limited English knowledge doesn't like it.
 
8:12 AM
@Sid: So be it, shaggy-haired ox, and nothing in return (4)
 
Sid
That is a cc? Good luck solving that. I can't.
I thought that was OKAY. Don't know the wordplay
 
Yes, you're correct. It's supposed to be YAK (hairy ox) plus O (nothing, looks like a zero), all reversed (in return).
 
Nice :p
@Sp3000 Yup.
 
8:34 AM
Hmm I'm not very good at this coming up with clues quickly thing
 
I refrained from answering the CCCC's at first, too. Meanwhile I've prepared a small batch of definitions, so I don't have to invent them on the spot.
 
Yeah my stockpile ran short oops
 
@Sp3000 Can I use make as anagram indicator?
 
Depends how you use it, but I feel it's not nice. Deus might have a better/different answer though.
 
Use the toilet-roll strategy: Make sure that you always have at least one handy.
 
8:42 AM
Like ...X, Y makes Z(def)
 
CCCC: Bowser's first in Moo Moo? That's a bad insult (3, 4)
Not fully happy about this one (been trying to make it better for a while), but it'll do :P
Hmm I dunno, maybe "can make" is fairer? I probably haven't seen enough of those sorts of anagrinds to feel like I can comment on it
 
Yes, "can make" is better and similar to "could be", which is used sometimes.
Bowser?
 
Could be mario :p
 
Ah, my pop culture impairment strikes again.
 
Intended surface is Mario Kart, but I couldn't quite get it to fit right
As for "can make"/"could be", I've sort of avoided using "maybe"/"perhaps"/etc as anagrinds personally - "can become" for MICROTRANSACTION was sort of a one-off from me trying to (admittedly badly) &lit
But everyone has their own preferences so I dunno
 
8:56 AM
I'm not so fond of these either, but would still use them if they improve the surface reading.
 
Could the answer be Moo Moos? ref
That ? sign is weirdly placed
I'm not sure if its considered as insult anywhere though
 
Well, "You fight like a cow" was used in insult sword fighting.
 
9:11 AM
fyi it'd be weird if the answer was in the clue :P
(and I don't mean in a hidden sense)
 
 
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10:16 AM
@Sp3000: LOW BLOW (That's a bad insult) = B (Bowser's first) in LOW LOW (low as verb: make the sound of a cow, moo)
 
Yup
 
CCCC: Greek underworld, surprisingly nice. (8)
 
TARTARUS?
Greek underworld = def
 
I've got it, but I'll pass until I have a clue this time :P
 
@Mithrandir: How do you construct that? Or is it a cryptic def?
 
10:25 AM
I don't know, I don't know anything about CCs, I was taking a guess :P
 
@Sp3000: I see it's not all Greek to you. :)
 
Surprisingly nice could be like expectedly awful, maybe :P
(I really don't know CCs.)
 
@GentlePurpleRain Unless there's a mistake in it I haven't noticed, I think my FAUST clue is a "standard" one. For the broken "malaria" one, perhaps the explanation should say how it's broken, as some explanations of other "non-standard" clues do.
Good work, by the way!
 
Admittedly I got it right for the wrong reason, as in I thought I had it for one reason and it turned out to be due to another
 
There's nothing wrong with that. Many roads leat to Rome. Or Athens.
 
10:31 AM
'surprisingly' can be an anagram indicator, apparently
 
@GentlePurpleRain Is it true in every case that the solver of a clue is the setter of the next one in the spreadsheet? (I have the feeling there were a couple of cases where that didn't happen -- including e.g. when a setter realises that their clue is broken.) If it isn't, it would be nice to have a column saying who solved each clue.
(Then it would be possible to make it figure out who solved most clues, whether A solving a lot of B's clues means B is likely to solve a lot of A's clues, etc.)
 
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Q: Sudoku embedded in a Kakuro

paramesisIn addition to standard Kakuro rules, the grey shaded cells must form a valid Sudoku solution.

 
11:06 AM
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Q: The number sequence algorithm that solves them all!

TherkelInspired by a student who was asked the typical question of What is the missing number in the sequence 8, 15, 25, 38, ??, 73 I thought: Well, this type of question is silly; if the student knows about OEIS and it exists there, then there is no challenge and if it does not appear ther...

 
11:41 AM
@MOehm HELL + (NICE)* = HELLENIC
 
@Sp3000 Is the anag indicator placed between the two?
 
Yeah, the "surprisingly"
The comment I previously made was because I was thinking of Helen of Troy, which I believe is unrelated
Running under the assumption that the above is correct:
CCCC: Off-white crows oddly start to make one rattle without end (6, 5)
 
@Sp3000 Yes, that's it.
I'm not so good at zoology, but I have a feeling that leucornithology and erythrichthyology are closely related.
 
12:29 PM
@Deusovi That's my fault :P
 
12:54 PM
don't white crows have a fancy alternate name?
 
There are like 20 some shades of off-white.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_white Which is it
 
@n_palum It might not be any of them. Perhaps the clue involves anagramming "off-white crows". Perhaps "off-" is an anagram indicator and we need to anagram the letters of "white". Perhaps "start" indicates first letters and we're doing something with the letters OWCO.
 
@n_palum: The enumeration (6, 5) applies only to Floral White and Navajo White. And Gareth is right. It isn't any of them.
 
Lol I was jokin' I didn't think they'd really pick a specific white
clearly white is anagram into wet hi
 
Yes, and that's the beginning to "We think".
 
1:05 PM
Well that's not nearly as fun as wet hi
 
This is Puzzling. If you don't find thinking fun, what are you doing here?
5
 
;_;
 
I mean, there's fun and there's fun
 
1:37 PM
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Q: #When money speak#

Techidiot # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # 8 # # 4 # # 2 # # 6 # # 5 # # # # ...

 
2:27 PM
@MOehm Because there are two words, are there two definitions and two word plays, or only can it be a mix?
 
The answer is made up of two words, but they are not independent of each other and form a phrase. The wordplay is for both and treats all 11 letters as one big word. That is, the space is not marked.
 
Ohh okay.. that makes more sense
 
For example "Big dog upset tea garden (5, 4)" asks you to take an anagram of (TEA GARDEN)* to get GREAT DANE. The wordplay applies to both words. The solution is a fixed phrase.
 
@MOehm But what about something like: 'Mad Hatter's cultural occupations' (3,4)
 
Sometimes, setters stretch clues across several rows or columns and make large defiitions with long enumerations: (1,5,1,3,5,3,6,4).
 
2:35 PM
^ That is huge :-)
 
Do you ask why THE is a part of the answer? Because that's a fixed expression, too. See here under definition 2.
 
I get 'the', and the cultural occupations, but not Mad Hatter's
 
Ah, mad is an anagram indigator and HATTERS is the anagram fodder.
 
OH gotcha.. I keep second guessing myself with what is and isn't an indicator
 
The seven latters of "hatter's" make up the (3, 4) solution.
The thing with indicators is that they may be indicators for several things or nor indicators at all. For example, "new" could be an anagram indicator. It could mean N (as abbreviation) or "novel" (as synonym). Or it could just mean "new". And it can be part of the definition, of course.
The fun in solving is to find out which is which. The fun in setting is to try to mislead the solvers into making false assumtions.
 
2:42 PM
mmm.. thanks for the explanations
 
I'd hardly be able to find the arts in hatters tbh :-)
@MOehm I've pushed another ASCII art in there. In case if you are interested :-)
 
I'm gunna get one of these 4Cs... eventually...
 
@n_palum I'll ping you if I make one :p I've only made a few which were the easiest ones
 
Yes, @Techidiot, I've seen it. Looks a bit like I Ching. (But until now, the coins haven't fallen favourably. Not for me, at least, although I think I recognise the asterisk thingy.)
 
Haha I appreciate it.. I feel like I get close and then someone else figures it out and I'm like a mile off
 
2:48 PM
@n_palum You can ask solvers to hold it for you. People are quite good here ;)
 
@Techidiot No sense in holding it if I'm going in the entirely wrong direction XD
 
@MOehm Oh, that's a nice idea to use. Trivial for me though. Will use it someday
 
@Techidiot Does it require knowledge about any specific types of coins?
 
@n_palum I'll hold off to provide any information for a while. But, all you need is in there. And every little thing in there matters :)
 
I'll take that as a maybe
 
3:26 PM
@Techidiot Did you have any further data that I didn't include? We could always amalgamate them. Sorry to rain on your parade. :(
 
I believe you might have better prepared it. But again, I don't mind completing my findings as well
Yes, it does take a lotttttt of time :)
 
hmm... " Most prolific author/solver #REF! #REF!"
 
3:51 PM
@GarethMcCaughan I think the issue mentioned regarding the FAUST clue was that the definition was not a straight definition; it used wordplay as well (SOLE -> SOUL). But I've removed the flag. I also added an explanation to the MALARIA clue.
@Sconibulus Refresh the page. It should be fixed now.
@GarethMcCaughan There were maybe half-a-dozen instance where the solver was not the next setter; I didn't think it significant enough to keep an extra column. But if someone wants to compile a list of clues where the solver was not the next setter, I will happily add it to the spreadsheet.
 
@GentlePurpleRain I think you did a brilliant job there. I didn't found a couple of clues and a couple of answers myself :) And I was too lazy to add the things like solver name/setter name/date created
 
oh yeah, I suppose that is a fair comment on the FAUST clue. Feel free to put the flag back if you like; I'm not offended or anything.
@MOehm shouldn't your example enumeration have begin 2,5,1 rather than 1,5,1?
 
4:14 PM
I think I will solve one puzzle maze. sounds nice (1,5,1,3,5,3,6,4) :-)
 
@Techidiot yeah, but there is a specific other thing I think he might have in mind -- except that it needs a 2-letter word at the start.
 
Oh..
 
@GarethMcCaughan Oh, yes, the second word starts with a vowel sound, so it must be 2, 5, 1, ... I must have been low on vitamines when I wrote it.
 
The community seems very divided on the idea of imgur mazes. 4 upvotes, 4 downvotes
 
That will teach me to post innocent illustrative examples without double-checking. :)
 
4:22 PM
While I'm linking to it, everybody please go and vote on your favourite topics, or propose some new ones. The voting has become a little stagnant lately.
 
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Q: Strange Company - What Am I?

ovalteinI was struck with sudden inspiration for my first original riddle. I'm sure you puzzling pros will have this one solved quick. A flightless bird is always my foe A circus performer causes me woe A mystery man is my enemy A troublesome feline likes pestering me All of these things are found...

 
@GentlePurpleRain Yeah. I like the idea in theory, but typically they're... poorly-executed (to say the least).
 
Gareth caught the batman.
 
Sid
"Given space, they go round in circles" - CC guys, could you explain this clue?
 
Can we at least have the enumeration?
 
Sid
4:29 PM
Oops, Sincere apologies. (10)
The answer apparently is SATELLITES. I don't get anything of it.
 
It seems like lateral thinking to me
 
I think it is a cryptic definition, one that doesn't have any wordplay.
 
Yeah, probably a cryptic definition.
 
Yes that
 
@GentlePurpleRain I voted on a bunch for you and proposed a new one :)
 
Sid
4:31 PM
I don't remember seeing cryptic definitions in your guide, Deus.
How do they work?
 
I intentionally didn't include them. I don't think they're proper cryptic clues.
They're just definitions that need to be interpreted in a not-immediately-obvious way.
The example I always use is "Mental block (5'1, 4)" for RUBIK'S CUBE.
 
And Gareth gets the message as well. Looks like he is on fire :-)
 
@Techidiot Puzzle streak ~^.^~
 
Sid
ANother one I got stuck on is: "Extend Prison sentence?" (7)
 
It's just an obscure definition of satellites. It makes use of typical cryptic words such as "given" to imply insertion or "round" and "in circles" to make you think about anagrams. Usually, there aren't many of them in a crossword. The letters from crossing answers can help you to narrow down the answer.)
 
4:34 PM
(I really don't like that clue for SATELLITES.)
 
Sid
It's from a crossword. I didn't make that. I just got bored and so was solving a cryptic crossword..
 
I know! I don't think it's a good clue though
 
@Deusovi Orbiting objects steal confused lights in audition (10)
Better? :P
(although super easy too)
 
Sid
The other one I mentioned is apparently STRETCH. Does prison sentence also mean stretch?
 
stretch can mean prison sentence, yes
 
4:38 PM
I could see it being called that, but I would define it that way
 
Oh, really? I hadn't heard that
 
"I did a stretch in Alcatraz" would mean the obvious
 
yeah
 
So that one is a double-def.
 
It's a slang for it
@GentlePurpleRain can you protect sheets/cells in google sheets?
 
4:40 PM
@dcfyj Yes, you can.
 
And yeah I don't think "prison sentence" would be ok, but with the "?" there I guess it's passable
 
I was thinking you could make the CC list into a table that way it could be sorted and filtered for easier lookup
 
@dcfyj Go to Tools->Protect Sheet, or right-click a cell and pick "Protect range".
 
Just turn on auto-filter, assuming gdocs does that
 
@Rubio At the moment, when I click on the C4 archive, I can do nothing but scroll
 
4:42 PM
Oh. yeah, true.
 
A sort/filter option would be great for searching purposes
 
@dcfyj I published that one as a web page. I was planning to publish it as a spreadsheet, but that shares the name associated with my gmail account, which I don't particularly want to do. I'm looking at an alternate method of sharing.
 
Ah ok
 
@GentlePurpleRain Your name isn't GentlePurpleRain?
 
I know, it's shocking, isn't it? I'm just so gentle, and... purple?
 
4:45 PM
And Rainy
 
@GentlePurpleRain copy it to a throw-away gmail account, and share from there maybe?
 
By the way I notice one of my clues doesn't have an index. Also, the column header for the index#
is "This second, I have contracted, and started scratching, a rash! (5)" instead of something meaningful
 
@Sconibulus That is my plan.
 
I could make a sheet, and you could copy it to that.
 
@Rubio Thanks, I'll try to fix those up.
@Deusovi It's okay. I've already set up another account; I just need to copy it over.
 
4:47 PM
Alright.
 
Sid
I am probably going to bore you all, but here's another I am stuck at: "You won't get a present from him" (8)
 
Santa! :P
 
I imagine of you named the account 'gentlepurplerain@gmail.com', then it would already be taken, y'know with that being such a popular name and all....
 
(Ironically enough, my joke answer has 8 characters)
 
ABSENTEE :p Another crypt def I think
 
4:48 PM
Mr. Santa *
 
ABSENTEE sounds right.
 
@n_palum is that like Mr. Satan?
 
Sid
Yes. But isn't the whole thing a definition?
 
@dcfyj Shhhh he'll hear you
 
Mr. Hercule Satan from DBZ is what I was talking about lol
 
4:49 PM
Yeah, it seems like another cryptic definition.
(Like I said, I don't consider those valid cryptics. Some people do. They're wrong.)
 
Nothing cryptic about them.
 
They're a gimmick like PD no?
 
"I'm not closed-minded, you're just wrong."
9
 
@Deusovi You sound like an angry Dad the way you type sometimes
 
@Rubio Exactly! :P
@dcfyj PD?
 
4:50 PM
I really need that on a t-shirt
 
Printer's devil, or whatever they're called
 
Ah, yeah
 
I'm sad that I wrote their instead of they're... I suck :(
Printer's devil sounds/looks insanely hard to write, never mind solve...
 
Don't worry I always make that mistake
 
I usually don't, that's why it's bothering me lol
 
4:52 PM
I can never get to and too the right way round
 
Misteaks are good though
 
to, opposite of from, too, "too much"
 
Are those at all like Steak-umms?
 
@n_palum hhmm, 'very much'....
 
lol
long as you don't write two :P
 
4:53 PM
@BeastlyGerbil Just say very/also/excessive in your head
@dcfyj Can you write tew?
 
there, their, and they're are homophones, and they're is a perception that their only loosely in possession of there spellings
 
@Sconibulus GAH
 
@Rubio Yes
 
Oops I just accidently edited a previous comment and now it looks like I answered n_palum before he said anything...
 
@n_palum Not sure, but you can write wet
 
4:55 PM
The true meaning of being psychic...
 
Good work claps slowly
 
@n_palum I knew you were going to say that! :P
 
@BeastlyGerbil too has too many 'o's
 
ooh like it
 
As long as you don't start thinking "to has to many 'o's" :P
 
Sid
4:56 PM
This one sounds so gross, that I gave up just on seeing it: "What nagging chickens do when they kiss and make up?"(7)
 
@dcfyj Okay, everyone -- I updated the link for the CCCC archive on the pin at the right. It should be a full-fledged spreadsheet now. For some reason it doesn't seem to show the filter view by default, but you can easily add a new filter view yourself, so you can filter/sort.
@Sid HENPECK
 
Sid
Yeah, how does that work?
 
"okay everyone" pings me, lol
peck is a term for kissing
 
@Sid nagging = henpecking, and a chicken kiss is a hen peck.
 
and pickles
 
4:58 PM
there are a lot of extra words
 
@BeastlyGerbil is a witch... burn 'em
 
@dcfyj You requested it.
 
True
I just thought it was funny
 
Sid
What does "make up" do there? Just adding to the grossness of it all?
 
"kiss and make up" is idiomatic for making peace after an argument
 
4:59 PM
@Sid Those clues are terrible. D: What crossword is this?
 
@Sid I think it's just colour. Since they were nagging, they now have to make up.
 
And yeah, that's an absolutely horrible clue :)
 
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