Photography Chat

rfusca

12:47 AM

hey @andyml

AndyML

1:20 AM

@rfusca howdy

rfusca

1:32 AM

@andyml hows it going?

Michael Clark

@rfusca D4? D4s? D3? etc.

AndyML

@rfusca Can't complain. Getting ready for Easter. Yourself?

AJ Henderson

2:27 AM

well, my baby now has a name and a domain

and yes, the later was a condition of choosing the former

AndyML

@AJHenderson lol, nice

AJ Henderson

and now I'm getting another IP address because I just realized there is the potential for data leakage if I don't host it on another IP address until his birth

because once google scans it, it will show up as being on my server

and I can't use an SSL cert without another IP or without putting the domain name in my main cert, which would be visible if anyone looked closely at my cert on my main sites

AndyML

@AJHenderson all over my head

AJ Henderson

hehe, luckily IPs are only 99 cents a month

and I can drop it once baby gets here

AndyML

2:46 AM

So for pro wordpress themes, it have to pay for a wp.com subscription? Or can I choose my own host and install wordpress for free?

I'm new to the whole wordpress concept...

Anonymous

3:00 AM

hello everybody

AJ Henderson

@AndyML if you pay for a wordpress.com one, then you don't need a host

but can only use what they provide

if you provide your own host, you don't pay anything for wordpress, just the theme

you install wordpress.org

or rather the wordpress software from wordpress.org

which is really really simple to do

rfusca

@MichaelClark we're were talking about in the starter/consumer division

Anonymous

The @AJHenderson philosophy: "SELF HOST ALL THE THINGS!"

AJ Henderson

and sad face, apparently my SSL peeps are doing maintenance, so I can't spin up an SSL cert for my newly minted IP address

AndyML

@AJHenderson Ah, that makes much more sense. Now I'm trying to decide between a host and install wordpress, or something simple like squarespace.

Anonymous

3:06 AM

@AndyML self host

Anonymous

@AJHenderson patosainz.cl

Anonymous

it's half done, It's missing some bugfixes

Anonymous

but that's basically less or more what I'm doing

rfusca

@AndyML ditto, I"m editing a bunch of video for easter. I'll be up late doing that

AJ Henderson

nice

I very narrowly avoided deciding to buy my photography and photos domains

but decided as long as I've got the .com I don't care if someone else gets the .photography

because average people are still going to naturally think of everything as .com

Anonymous

3:11 AM

@AJHenderson oh you think it's nice?

AJ Henderson

@PatoSáinz yeah, I think I actually considered that template before I went with Keres

Anonymous

thanks

Anonymous

@AJHenderson Keres?

Anonymous

link?

AJ Henderson

ajhendersonphotography.com is running keres

Anonymous

3:12 AM

I thought it was rawfolio

AJ Henderson

themeforest.net/item/keres-fullscreen-photography-theme/3960542

Anonymous

@AJHenderson I really needed a theme similar to yours... damn I may use the same theme if you don't mind (and is free)

AJ Henderson

I don't mind, but it isn't a free one, it was $45

Anonymous

crosses fingers be free be free

Anonymous

FUCK

AJ Henderson

3:13 AM

one time fee though

unlike rawfolio and the like

or actually

I take that back

rawfolio I think my be one time as well, but it's a lot more

AndyML

@AJHenderson $100+

AJ Henderson

yeah

the big problem with things like rawfolio and prophoto is that they lock down your ability to make adjustments

which is a big problem if you plan to go beyond their plugin support

themeforest stuff you actually get the standard template and can modify as neccessary

and it is a lot cheaper, though it also is just a theme, not an entire site system like rawfolio or prophoto

Anonymous

@AJHenderson well you can always edit the css and html can't you?

AJ Henderson

@PatoSáinz not with prophoto. Pretty sure you can't with rawfolio either

they are obfuscated zend packages

Anonymous

@AJHenderson LOL

Anonymous

3:17 AM

then i'm not touching them

AJ Henderson

yeah, that's why I stayed away too

AndyML

@AJHenderson Yeah, I might go with squarespace. Pro look + hosting. Looks like most hosts with simple WP installation is the same price as squarespace, plus you have to then buy a theme.

AJ Henderson

they are very nice for photographers with no technical background

but if you know what you are doing, a theme only shop is the way to go

which is why I ended up on Keres

because Lensa wasn't quite good enough

and rawfolio and prophoto were too limiting

Anonymous

@AndyML just one thing:

Anonymous

Apr 15 at 3:19, by Pato Sáinz

I like to manage my servers myself

Anonymous

3:19 AM

you are loosing your freedomss

Anonymous

@AJHenderson indeed it isn't

AndyML

@PatoSáinz That's you. Completely understand. I just don't have the time to fiddle with a website.

AJ Henderson

@PatoSáinz of all the free ones though, it was one of the best I found

AndyML

Free time goes to my hobbies: photography, flying, and games. Haven't gotten to the last one in a long time, either.

AJ Henderson

and actually influenced my decission towards Keres

Anonymous

3:20 AM

@AndyML it took me 6 hours to get everything working from scratch (buying a server, domain, setting up dns ... setting up logs, nginx ... installing theme

Anonymous

@AndyML oh

AndyML

Websites used to be on the list, but my knowledge got outdated fast

AJ Henderson

@AndyML WP really isn't that hard. It's all GUI based

even plugin installation is automatic

you choose to add new plugin, it sends you to a directory on wordpress.org

you hit "Install" and it downloads and installs it for you

AndyML

@AJHenderson I believe you. The ability to customize isn't a perk for me, though. My variables are quality end result and total cost.

AJ Henderson

@AndyML yeah, then if you went WP you'd want rawfolio or prophoto

that's what those are designed for

and they do a very good job at that

AndyML

3:23 AM

@AJHenderson I was leaning toward wordpress for those one-time setups, but researching hosts found that the ongoing cost is the same as squarespace, and the latter doesn't have a high up-front cost, either.

AJ Henderson

of the two, I slightly prefered Prophoto

AndyML

@AJHenderson They look excellent

All hosts are at least $9/mo for even the most basic packages, though

I don't even need SSL

Uh, all very good points. Now I'm at a loss again.

@AJHenderson The only gap is photo hosting. If I go with a shared host with "unlimited" storage, does the WP structure allow for easy album handling with "download all" options?

AJ Henderson

I'm not all that familiar with squarespace. Do they have an ability to export would be one of my main questions

AndyML

@AJHenderson Export?

Anonymous

@AJHenderson I think they do iirc

Anonymous

3:27 AM

@AndyML your content, in case their ship sinks

rfusca

ug ran out and bought a new pair of headphones cuz I lost the old ones and the left side of the new ones is dead

AJ Henderson

@AndyML my main concern with turn key solutions is that you be able to move to another platform down the road

Anonymous

@rfusca what headphones?

AJ Henderson

and I don't know enough about squarespace. I've heard good things about them, but they came out after I had moved in to the dedicated market

AndyML

@AJHenderson I'm not hosting a significant amount of content, though. 5 pages at the most. If I include albums, I'm not concerned about exporting them.

AJ Henderson

3:29 AM

and yeah, WP has extensive gallery support made even more extensive through plugins

Anonymous

@rfusca Pioneer HDJ-500 here, sorta inexpensive, after five months they lost the bass' bassest in the right ear ;_;

AndyML

@AJHenderson Any good ones you can point me toward?

AJ Henderson

I use NextGen on ajhenderson.com, though I have only played around with a little bit of its feature set

rfusca

@PatoSáinz nothing too crazy, just need something to listen carefully when doing this editing. these - bestbuy.com/site/around-the-ear-headphones/…$pcmcat143000050011&cp=1&lp=1

AJ Henderson

wordpress.org/plugins/nextgen-gallery

the galleries on ajhendersonphotography are actually part of the Keres template

but indirectly driven by WP galleries

AndyML

3:31 AM

@AJHenderson Am I setting myself up for disaster by hosting galleries on a shared host? They say unlimited everything, but I'm sure there's fine print.

rfusca

@PatoSáinz that stinks

AJ Henderson

@AndyML depends on the host, the big question will be how fast they provide data

a lot of times, you may end up finding that the unlimited servers respond kind of slow

Anonymous

@rfusca it can be temporarily fixed by rising the volume a little and blowing inside the speaker, still I'm disappointed

AndyML

@AJHenderson looks nice

Anonymous

because I know Pioneer makes the best gear (maybe not headphones, AudioTechnica, BeyerDynamics, AKG and Senn are those)

AJ Henderson

3:33 AM

@rfusca I make sure not to lose my headphones

but then again, mine probably cost a bit more than yours did

rfusca

@AJHenderson lol

@AJHenderson well i think I left them at church at the media desk, but its too long of a drive there

and i need some both places

AJ Henderson

and by a bit I mean a big intense ton

rfusca

lol

indeed

nicest pair I ever had were around 300 probably

AJ Henderson

@rfusca well, that atleast gets close

less than double is closer than most get

rfusca

lol

what do you have?

AJ Henderson

3:35 AM

though I suppose technically I only paid $136 for them

but I traded in my broken E5s

I've got shure se 535s

shure.com/americas/products/earphones-headphones/se-earphones/…

interesting, apparently they now have a quad-driver version, but I think I can pass

seeing as they doubled the cost to go from 3 drivers to 4

rfusca

lol nice

AJ Henderson

if it was $600 for the 846, I'd consider it, but not $999

AndyML

hmmm... Might try wordpress from my synology for a few months to see how that works...

AJ Henderson

@AndyML the other thing about wordpress is that you have a lot of people in here that know it well

and there is actually an entire SE community about wordpress as well

AndyML

@AJHenderson That's definitely a plus

AJ Henderson

3:43 AM

the other thing with using a host provider is you can potentially use other services as well

such as setting up an owncloud

which is really useful for file distribution and password protected sharing

that's actually the backend I use for most of the photos I link in here

cloud.ajhenderson.com/…

that's the root of the shared directory for content I post on SE

though if it's going in the Q/A side of things I generally imgur it to avoid content getting lost

but for chat, I use that share

AndyML

@AJHenderson My sinology takes care of that part. 3tb of easy access storage

AJ Henderson

ah, running from your home connection?

AndyML

@AJHenderson mhmm

AJ Henderson

I suppose that works as long as they aren't downloading it more than once, though for a shared host you might not get much faster than a decent home connection anyway

AndyML

3:59 AM

@AJHenderson the speeds are something I'm unfamiliar with. I'll try WP out of my home and see how that goes.

rfusca

5:03 AM

!@#!@#1@#!@$!#!@#^$^#@%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I missed the stinking electrical socket in the bottom of the frame

curse you tiny LCD screen on the back of cameras

Esa Paulasto

5:32 AM

Don't blame the camera. You missed the socket, but the camera did not.

;)

rfusca

@EsaPaulasto ya ya ya :P

luckily it was low enough to crop out

Esa Paulasto

Could not retouch it out then?

Just like a red pimple on a face in portrait photo - off you go, socket!

rfusca

@EsaPaulasto Video, much harder to do

Esa Paulasto

Ouch, ic

rfusca

But, it was a minor crop

Esa Paulasto

5:37 AM

That's the spirit, a bright side was found :)

rfusca

5:54 AM

@EsaPaulasto the bright side is that its 2am on easter and I'm relatively close to being done lol

Esa Paulasto

6:38 AM

:)

It's 9:40 a.m. here and and hour ago I hid candies around the property, and all has been found already by my clever daughter :)

Next year I'll need harder to find hiding spots.

rfusca

6:57 AM

nice

Anonymous

3:04 PM

@EsaPaulasto aww that's so cute

Anonymous

3:19 PM

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Q: How can I take good interior pictures (for selling the house)?

I'm about to put my house on the market, and I'd like to hear some tips for making the best possible photographs, specifically for this purpose. Among things I should like to hear comments about are these: Use a fairly wide-angle lens Use low ISO and small aperture for sharpness and low noise ...

interior

Anonymous

Comm. Wiki?

rfusca

5:32 PM

@AJHenderson the church lighting goes flawlessly for weeks. Easter service - the whole thing goes belly up for no reason lol

AJ Henderson

@rfusca that's no good

we thankfully had a fairly smooth service

though I question the sanity of the decision to put two electrics guitars (with amps) and an acoustic all one the same side of the stage

stage volume was LOUD

but it's easter, so we just made the music a bit louder than usual over all

and it did sound good

rfusca

nice

@AJHenderson ya, i still don't know what happened. its like the lights froze. for awhile neither the new computer setup nor the old manual board would control the lights

AJ Henderson

bizar

rfusca

@AJHenderson it was

AJ Henderson

6:06 PM

yay, and now my baby's site has an SSL cert and a dedicated IP address so none of my more technically literate friends can track it back to my server

I suppose the really really determined person could do a brute force reflection attack to see what domains the mail server accepts relays for

but if they are that determined, they can know the baby's name early

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