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Here's what I'm going to do. If the group demonstrates a desire for stealth, we can run stealth based skill challenges without everyone being trained.

If people want more of them and harder ones, I'll drop the extra feat on y'all for level 2

::tries to figure out how to change his wizards password::

RMorrisey

as long as it doesn't directly influence big battles, I like the stealth. I don't think it should be a contributor to the fights directly

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

Well, the stealth thing, with combat... is tricky.

Iszi

12:20 AM

@RMorrisey With the exception of Therin of course, the sniper.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

oh, bugger. meant to ask

@EricWeilnau When you say sniper, do you want proper sniper, or ranger sniper?

Iszi

@BrianBallsunStanton Maybe better define the difference? You've got me a little confused.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

Proper sniper is the one I posted on in the thread. Rogue sniper, all about actually sniping from shadows. Ranger sniper is "hey, I can stealth, and I'll hit you from waay over here" but isn't.. ultra-sniper focused

I'm really not sure how rogue sniper will play

Iszi

You're giving in to the CB, eh?

Oh, nm.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

?

Iszi

12:24 AM

I was thinking something else...

Speaking of which...

Looks like Sam did end up being a Rogue?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

Thief is rogue

Iszi

I thought the Essentials classes were different classes, that shared similar features?

Sohum

they're more like... different builds

a Thief qualifies as a Rogue

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

okay. I've now generated temporary DDI credentials

anyone else need a et?

Sohum

but the reason why the .dnd4e file is of a Rogue is again because the essentials update isn't up yet

@BrianBallsunStanton not until an actual essentials update

Iszi

12:27 AM

I thought he was going to be totally PDF only until the update.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

:9785 works.

Iszi

Not complaining... was just slightly confused a moment.

Sohum

hence, "Alternate Universe Sam"

Iszi

Was wondering where he picked up the AU from...

RMorrisey

@BrianBallsunStanton I notice you get 5 updates... so for future reference, the DDI thing may not be such a big deal. You only need 1 sub for every 4 or 5 players (unless there's an issue with the update)

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

12:29 AM

:9791 yeah.

Iszi

@RMorrisey It's 5 per month. That could have broken this month if they actually put out two updates as I'd heard they were supposed to do.

RMorrisey

ah

Iszi

At this rate, unless anyone knows different, I've got my doubts that we'll be seeing Dark Sun or Essentials in the November update.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

okay, who are we missing?

Iszi

Therin

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

12:34 AM

okay, and he asked me to whip the .dnd4e up to his specs

so that's doable

Iszi

And Squeaky

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

archer ranger is bloody streightforward

and squeaky is in the middle of prep now

Is there any reason to take prime shot as a ranger? I'm thinking running attack is just... better for someone who wants to pew-pew from the back

Sohum

paste both?

Iszi

Oh, and will you be building the Wilden, @BrianBallsunStanton

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

PRIME SHOT
If none of your allies are nearer to your target than you are, you receive a +1 bonus to ranged attack rolls against that target. You do not gain this feature if you choose the Beast Mastery fighting style.

RUNNING ATTACK
This class feature replaces the Prime Shot class feature.

If you use a standard action that lets you move (such as a charge or the skirmish shot power), and you end that movement at least 2 squares away from where you began that move, you gain a +1 bonus to attack rolls made as part of that standard action.

Nope :)

Wilden has vanished back into the undifferentiated company. If someone croaks and wants to grab him, awesome. Otherwise ::shrug::

Iszi

12:37 AM

@BrianBallsunStanton Running attack favors the sniper more so than prime shot, for sure.

Sohum

"as part of that standard action"?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

yeah

both of them look... utterly worthless

Iszi

Right, but Prime Shot is much more geared toward closer-range work.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

yes

Sohum

I honestly read Prime shot as "if all of your allies" the first few times I read it...

I don't see how it's useful at all as is

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

12:39 AM

it... isn't?

I mean, as is, nimble strike takes advantage of running attack.

damnit, eric didn't post primary stats.

oh well, 20 dex is 20 dex

Iszi

Auto-gen

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

yeah, 18 dex, 14 wis, 11 con

and now 4 backgrounds...

oh, you guys will like this: greywulf.net/tag/minecraft he's making kobold hall in minecraft.

Sohum

ohgod

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

it's actually really cool to get a sense of the scale of a dungeon

::sigh:: and no-one's done step 3

that's really annoying

well, eagle eye's done

Iszi

@BrianBallsunStanton Step 3?

Sohum

12:56 AM

I thought I'd done step 3?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

joint planning of skills

you tow both have

sorry, when I say no-one, I mean except the people who have

which makes less sense, now that I think about it

Iszi

rrrriiiiiiiigghhhht....

:P

hey everyone

hey @EricWeilnau

12:58 AM

:9768 ranger sniper

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

cool.

Is what I just finished building

questions

1) do you have 2 backgrounds you want?

C. Ross

:9829 Step 3? did I miss step 3?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

2) Your current class skills stand at: athletics, Dungoneering, Nature, Stealth.Perception

is this OK?

2a) Your backgrounds give you all kinds of bonuses, what skill would you like a +2 in? Right now it's sitting in stealth

Eric Weilnau

:9849 sounds great

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

:9848 yep.

Eric Weilnau

1:00 AM

:9851 i think that is best

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

@EricWeilnau Oh, I've generated temporary DDI credentials. Would you like to update your copy of CB?

Eric Weilnau

for the feat I was thinking weapon prof in the bow

Sohum

"the bow"

there's like ten kinds of bows :P

Eric Weilnau

greatbow

based on the archery training in his background

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

yup.

Eric Weilnau

1:02 AM

:9855 yeah. that would be cool

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

Greatbow was assumed.

right. Check wave

Eagle Eye PDF now being generated.

Iszi

Oh, whomever did Serai, maybe want to consider choosing a different language? We've already got Draconic covered.

C. Ross

Can change that

Eric Weilnau

:9847 I really do not have anything to add to Therin's background

C. Ross

maybe that should be decided in skills

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

1:06 AM

:9868 K.

Iszi

Dwarven isn't covered yet I think - could be useful.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

:9869 It was part of my intent of step 3

Iszi

Or Goblin.

C. Ross

I think goblin makes more sense

Sohum

goblin?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

1:08 AM

Eagle eye now being uploaded

Iszi

Can't count how many times I've had one of those things swearing at me in their foul tongue, only to leave me wondering "What did he say about my mother?"

C. Ross

Someone suggested a background for stealth

Sohum

:D

C. Ross

what was it?

Iszi

Don't remember a background being suggested. There was a Guild Feat.

Sohum

1:09 AM

'@CRoss None of your backgrounds have stealth... but if you're interested one that fits... Bleakmire and wrathwood are fun, as a "here's where I grew up" So is Survivor "Back when the 205th was routed..."'

via Brian

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

there are others, but they have... more impact?

can get you giant list if you want

C. Ross

I have the CB open, but I don't see survivor

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

@Cross @EricWeilnau Tell me when you're done with the download so I can change my password back.

er

... - @ ross, +@RMorrisey

RMorrisey

my download got stuck

should I cancel it and retry?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

yes

ohhh... I bet I know what happens

they don't like 2 people downloading from same credentials at same time

Survivor
Type: Occupation
Campaign Setting: General
Prerequisite: Follower of Bahamut

You survived a terrible calamity that forever changed your course. Were you the only survivor? Were you attacked or the victim of some natural disaster? If you were attacked, who attacked you and why? Do you seek revenge or have you made peace with your losses? How will this event shape your future?

not requiring the req, if you want to take it

C. Ross

1:14 AM

What about Scales of War - > Silent Hunter

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

@RMorrisey oopsies...

um... for serai?

C. Ross

makes sense with the shardhunter thing

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

works.

@RMorrisey What OS are you using?

C. Ross

Uploaded a "stealth" version of serai

RMorrisey

vista

C. Ross

1:21 AM

hopefully I've done everything

off for tonight

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

cheers

hrmm

Eric Weilnau

:9887 it is taking sooooo long

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

okay, so the um....

update is basically buggy this month

"We're aware of the issue, and as this is relatively new we're trying to find answers to help customers out. Currently some 'hacks' that have worked are below.

1. Make sure you're running as the administrator (Windows 7 or Vista)
2. Let it sit at the 100% update for a prolonged period of time (Like overnight)."

::snort::

Iszi

Ked said it took over an hour.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

that's preposterous. Go go buggy buggs.

@RMorrisey Would you prefer I whip up a quick version of squeaky to your specs while you wait?

RMorrisey

1:32 AM

I guess I'm letting it sit overnight

Eric Weilnau

just finished for me

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

k

RMorrisey

@BrianBallsunStanton sure, thanks

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

right, generating squeaky...

::finds a plastic noisemaker:: ::hands it to @RMorrisey:: there you are.

RMorrisey

my dog would love you forever

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

1:38 AM

::laughs:: See? Squeaky.

Oh, what daily do you want? posted a short-list

@RMorrisey And od you have 2 extra backgrounds you want?

RMorrisey

I wasn't sure what you meant before when you asked that. Haven't we already picked 4 backgrounds for Squeaky?

I liked all of them, and wanted to use them, it's no game benefit though, right?

Iszi

@RMorrisey Choose one among those available from your backgrounds.

RMorrisey

I chose Street Urchin as the one that grants benefits

(for Intimidate)

Sohum

@RMorrisey choose a benefit from one of the backgrounds

Iszi

@Sohum I think he did... +2 to Intimidate from Street Urchin.

RMorrisey

1:45 AM

when I put street urchin into CB before, it took away my benefit slot, because the benefit was automatic

Sohum

oh, okay

RMorrisey

I thought that it was a bug but they said it was correct

Iszi

It's correct, but you can undo it and select a different one.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

+1 intimidate, +1 streetwise

is fun power

er, benefit

Iszi

And, you can choose to train either as well.

(Taking up a training slot as usual, of course.)

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

2:00 AM

Lunchtime.

Iszi

2:35 AM

@BrianBallsunStanton Did you mean to leave Therin's build un-selected?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

2:49 AM

:9947 ?

yeah

it's optional and distracting

okay. We've got everyone

Hrmmmm, methinks we want a second chatroom for IC stuff...

and keep this as OOC

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

3:15 AM

Okay. We'll open by some RPing so people can get the feel of their characters: chat.rpg.stackexchange.com/rooms/10/…

There will be an encounter in the afternoon, so advance time until then at your own discretion. If you folks want to, you may choose to initiate a skill challenge for any skill by calling for it and the topic of the challenge. I'll then test out some of the skill challenge bits from the site before the encounter. I'd also like to know how often you'd like to advance.

Iszi

3:25 AM

@BrianBallsunStanton What did we do overnight? Was our assignment to set out immediately upon receiving orders, or at first light?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

:9959 First light, methinks.

But it's up to you folks to determine where you are.

Iszi

So, presumably we slept - except for Rihkim of course.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

If you want to declare that you set out last night, that's awesome, otherwise it's awesome.

Iszi

And I think the Lieutenant would have done better to recognize the Sergeant's gender, and her proper surname.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

basically this is something to allow you all to set the tone of the party.

er

hrmm

hrmmm

Iszi

3:27 AM

Just saying, is all... Had mind to have Zankul express that, but we've elapsed time already.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

that was a mistake, but I'm wondering if I should keep it that way

and just make your relationship with the LT antagonistic...

Iszi

Not much choice after long. There's a timeout on editing these things, I'm pretty sure.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

aaand since I can't edit, yes that was now intentional. whoo.

Iszi

Are we sticking with exclusive character control for now?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

Hrmm

Yeah.

I want to give you folks an opportunity to express a unique voice for the character.

Iszi

3:30 AM

Well then, I'll let our Sergeant decide how much progress - if any - we've made overnight, and how we're proceeding at the moment.

Oh, and where's files on Squeaky?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

In the final burning phases.

basically I've got a complete-enough copy, but it's over to RMor for final approval.

Iszi

I imagine we're not on the battle map yet, of course.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

nope

Think a highway through lightly wooded hills, to make life interesting

and mmm, pictures.

Iszi

3:48 AM

Still handling rolls as honor system?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

Yeah.

it's silly otherwise

Iszi

Guess I should get a spare set of dice to take to work...

I'd take some from my copious pre-existing stock, but need to pick up a bag for these anyway.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

::grin::

Excuses for dice are fun, aren't they?

Iszi

Yeah... especially when it's just the occasional "Well, I'm buying this book, but I'm a couple dollars shy of another stamp on my card..."

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

hehehe

I'm actually fairly tempted to give you guys stats for the monsters

that way IC can be pure IC

Eeh, second encounter is for experimentation, first is for methodology

Sohum

5:42 AM

huh buh wha?

Iszi

@Sohum Ehwabba?

@BrianBallsunStanton I'm not sure I'd say hand out monster stats. But how about we do skill checks, attack rolls, and the such in here and then narrate the results IC.

@BrianBallsunStanton By the way, how far off is this destination of ours?

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

Um, let's say you can reach it if you push through the night (skill challenge)

call it... 12-16 hours of walking

no, that's silly

call it about a week's march.

otherwise the army wouldn't be camped somewhere

Iszi

I was thinking distance, but okay.

Brian Ballsun-Stanton

well, professionals and peasants can do 20 or so miles a day

so that's about 120 miles