The Comms Room

(Oh course, in this situation, I would do a unplanned hard shutdown, a full disk image, then try to hit it with a few different recovery softwares, and forensics tools....)

but most places would probably get mad if you just pulled the plug :/

HopelessN00b

Plus, I'm not nearly that motivated. Sounds like something that would make me late to my 5 PM interview. =D

cole

@AdamC por que?

Nathan C

2:13 PM

I swear uninstalling AutoCAD takes 5x longer than installing...

Journeyman Geek

@HopelessN00b: heh, don't forget. I have the (misfortune)fortune of actually getting an education in PHBism, and dealing with em.

AdamC

@BigHomie ?

@cole we need a speaker

cole

@AdamC ah no I don't know anyone local

HopelessN00b

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, well, I have a business degree myself. Management Information Systems.

Journeyman Geek

@HopelessN00b: eh. My other major is in management

AdamC

2:15 PM

CSFO

Chief Shit Fixing Officer.

HopelessN00b

@JourneymanGeek So you're really getting an education on how not to be a PHB, if you think about it.

cole

Am I the only one without a degree? shit.

Journeyman Geek

@HopelessN00b: with management? No. It sucks.

Dennis Nolte

@cole nope

Journeyman Geek

@cole: third attempt. I'd be buried up to the neck in debt if not for my parents.

and honestly? I'd skip my own convocation if I hadn't promised my mom she'd see it.

HopelessN00b

2:16 PM

@cole Over-priced, over-rated pieces of paper you can't even wipe your ass with, unless you like paper cuts up your crack.

Dennis Nolte

@HopelessN00b depends on the job you want

at least here you most likely hit a limit in career without a degree

Journeyman Geek

eh. I might actually want to try to get a computer science degree part time.

heh, they don't even call you if you apply for a job without one.

They may not call you with one.

Dennis Nolte

@JourneymanGeek then is not the job i want anyway, fuck them and their piece of shit HR..

Journeyman Geek

@DennisNolte: However a job would be nice. I can't live in my parent's basement forever.

(hypothetically, we don't have a basement)

Dennis Nolte

@JourneymanGeek get a woman, move with her, no job needed for stuff like this, just tell you are a student :)

Journeyman Geek

2:19 PM

lol

HopelessN00b

@DennisNolte I stand by my statement. 2 year colleges are supposed to be here you go to get trained in a trade (job/career stuff). 4 year universities are supposed to be about an education, but they're not... not anymore.

Journeyman Geek

never seems to worl ;p

@HopelessN00b: meh

the cyberforensics course I did was worth the time and effort

AdamC

Anybody wanna be a Salesforce admin

Journeyman Geek

I should have taken BIS rather than management but I figured it would be faster.

Dennis Nolte

please let this shit burn to hell..

AdamC

2:20 PM

We should all just goto school for accounting.

Dennis Nolte

@HopelessN00b in what country are you in ? US? we have 10 years general education with slightly specialising, and 3 years after that for getting ready for university, so basically 12/13 years until university. 3 years Bachelor, 2 more for Master.

HopelessN00b

@DennisNolte US

cole

Well I'm going back to school in the fall so

AdamC

I've been reading Practical IT Service Management, it's a slow start so far but I'm interested in digging into it.

Dennis Nolte

@HopelessN00b how many years until you can specify what you want to do (trade, languages, IT etc)?

AdamC

2:23 PM

@cole I've heard good things about WGU, quality program and they have a good competency based program to pass out of classes.

Nathan C

@DennisNolte College. So, 12 years of school before you can even decide on a career option and learn about it.

cole

@AdamC tried WGU

HopelessN00b

@DennisNolte In theory, you can do that at any time. Like, when you're 6, if you want. Most people wait until after their first year at a 4-year university to declare a major.

AdamC

@cole if you want to go PT it's harder eh

cole

But I'm not going back for IT so - WGU doesn't help me.

AdamC

2:23 PM

Oh right you want to reboot.

Nathan C

Some high schools (years 9-12) have trade classes, but they're often a joke...

Dennis Nolte

@NathanC so only some courses in high school are different? everything else is same for everyone?

AdamC

@DennisNolte sorta depends on how fast you progress

Nathan C

@DennisNolte Basically, yes. There are exceptions but for the most part everyone learns the same thing.

AdamC

@NathanC trade classes in an academic high school are different from technical high schools.

Nathan C

2:25 PM

@AdamC Well in my case, I took a bus to a technical high school for that class

Dennis Nolte

@AdamC ye but that happens first in like 10th or 11th grade right?

AdamC

@cole haha ifttt.com/recipes/…

Nathan C

Sad part was, I already knew everything they were teaching from volunteering with my school's IT department...

cole

@AdamC sweet thanks

HopelessN00b

@AdamC Meh. Academic high schools are a joke anyway. Just a way of buying yourself into the Tier 1 universities, so you can become a banker or lawyer in one of the big cities on the coat. <yawn>

Dennis Nolte

2:26 PM

@NathanC be glad you at least had people who know their stuff, for me it was building the network with the teachers.. first time the specific class was tought in that school i went.

and for a tech course to have basic excel usage, like how you enter a formular for nearly a half year this was a fucking joke..

granted there was a lot of interesting stuff (we had to build nearly the whole school)
it was the time the school invested in computers, they were a mechanical/electrical teaching school before.

still, the teachers were not that well educated

Nathan C

@DennisNolte College was a similar thing...I didn't learn a whole lot that I couldn't have figured out otherwise, but it gives a shiny piece of paper saying that I know stuff.

And 4 years experience of working at a helldesk...

Dennis Nolte

@NathanC yep, the second i had my LPIC1/2 certs the invitations for job went flying by it was hard to decide..

@NathanC ye, that helps too, cause you know the peoples bullshit and all the lies they tell you just to get what they want

i wonder if i should celebrate working that long in the field or actually beeing sad for still having to work.

HopelessN00b

@DennisNolte The second one, definitely.

Dennis Nolte

@HopelessN00b thanks, if i need a larger depression i will always come here.

AdamC

@cole what are you interested in switching too btw

HopelessN00b

2:32 PM

@DennisNolte No prob. It's my specialty.

BigHomie

@AdamC yeah I know somewhat of a Powershell Aficionado, but I live in MI

you could UStream me to your thing

AdamC

Hehe thought about that too :)

Getting talks is hard </duh>

BigHomie

@AdamC you'd have to let me know the time and subject ahead of time though, and I doubt I'd be much interest to powershell experts, but I have done some pretty cool stuff w/ it

AdamC

@BigHomie PowerShell is always a great talk topic, still not a lot of people exposed to it, it'd be an hour long intro talk.

Not sure how good a teletalk would be though.

BigHomie

@AdamC that's true, I've been on it at least 4 years now and I was late to the party, yet that are still admins who don't Powershell

AdamC

2:40 PM

I just giveaway PowerShell books now and hope a winner comes back after reading the book.

Maybe I'll fly @MDMarra in to do a talk.

cole

@AdamC engineering or another science related degree

Nathan C

@cole Nuclear engineering!

...j/k

AdamC

@NathanC it's spelt nuculear

cole

@NathanC I'm thinking chem.

Nathan C

@AdamC Ha, I see what you did there

AdamC

2:44 PM

@cole just do accting and become some IT dork's boss.

BigHomie

:(

Nathan C

@cole Chemistry is interesting...just math isn't my strong suit.

cole

@AdamC I would slit my wrists.

AdamC

This FlashPanel is sick.

@cole but you'd be able to fix your wrists with ALL THE MONEY FALLING OUT OF YOUR POCKETS.

Tanner

@AdamC FlashPanel?

MDMarra

2:52 PM

@BigHomie This is high-level budget stuff

ewwhite

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cole

@AdamC I don't care about the money - I make good money now.

MDMarra

I let each guy choose what training they actually want to take

BigHomie

@MDMarra oh, meh, thnx anyway

Tanner

@AdamC Google Apps, ya? I've been looking at that...

ewwhite

2:52 PM

@MDMarra how are you doing over there?

MDMarra

@ewwhite Living the dream. Someone else handles the money, I just say "Give us 3k per engineer for exams"

ewwhite

@MDMarra not bad.

I probablyhave more stuff for you

cole

@MDMarra well that's super cool!

I wish I got training.

MDMarra

@ewwhite You keep talking about all of the stuff that you have for me, and then move on to more stuff that you have for me rather than giving me actual work!

@cole They have goals to hit. I don't care how they get there as long as they do

ewwhite

@MDMarra I have crap to deal with like the Davalan guy leaving for vacation today... (wut? I just converted them to Exchange last week)

so now, no PCs are being domain-joined or anything...

the guy just said, "use Outlook Web Access... I'm out... BYE!"

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@MDMarra The place in PA is just slow.

cole

3:01 PM

@MDMarra nice

AdamC

3:13 PM

@ewwhite sounds like an asshole ;)

@tanner I'm a Google App admin full-time before I used to do with EDUs.

Basil

Morning

AdamC

35 minutes left!

Nathan C

@cole It's also raining sideways here

AdamC

Blue Skys down here, surprised it cleared out so quickly.

Dennis Nolte

3:29 PM

1min till work is done, but ~15 till my driver arrives, sux..

and still way too hot outside

cole

Holy shit

there was tornado in Revere.

reddit.com/r/boston/comments/2by26l/tornado_in_revere

AdamC

It's blowing sideways!

Basil

so my NAS is backed up fully each weekend. In theory. In reality, my NAS is backed fully each friday noon through monday afternoon

cole

So

My mom just told me my aunt believes scientists can create the polar ice caps.

Basil

I'm getting an average of 350 MB/s on the tapes, but the processor is pegged at about 95% all weekend (because NDMP and small files). Anyone have any advice? Netapp NAS (5 years old) and netbackup with a VTL over FC for data, and bonded 1Gb/s network links for NDMP metadata

Nathan C

3:38 PM

@cole img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130626173600/anime-arts/images/0/… holy cow!

Basil

I was thinking synthetic fulls

Dennis Nolte

@cole most likely they can, but noone will pay for it.

anyway, hf, until tomorrow.

ewwhite

3:50 PM

Can any of you make sense of this pricing? osnexus.com/pricing

Oh, i think I get it.