The Comms Room

@AzkerM Kill with extreme death?

@Wesley OW!

@Jacob Pain is weakness leaving the body. Did you do your p90x routine for the day?

Remember, you can eat whatever the heck you want each Sunday. =P

@Wesley ye

@Wesley no no I can't either

Your p90x edition doesn't do cheat days?

5:06 AM

@Wesley I choose not to follow that part

AzkerM

we shall kill your highness :P

@Jacob Okay, that's an option. Do be a tad careful because austerity catches up to you and wears you down. Eventually.

@Wesley nawh

@Wesley I would just eat non stop all day

Breakfast would be fucking fries wrapped with bacon

Then I'd have a buger with the lot for bunch

Lunch would be two pies

Afternoon tea would be a whole chicken

Dinner would be two entire large pizzas

AzkerM

lolz! seems like that's so much to bear to your body.. :P

5:09 AM

Cos thats how goddamn hungry I would be

@MarkHenderson Go for it. If you go balls deep with p90x, have your Sunday cheat day.

Even Dwayne Johnson does cheat days. Of course, his is after half a year of clean eating and getting paid to pump major iron.

@Wesley Now that's a role model

Actually he's a terrible actor and probably an even worse role model

@MarkHenderson From what I know he's a good guy. Not the best actor, but he does good in meathead action roles.

Doesn't cheat on his wife, married to her forever, has kids that are good.

Wow, I'm a dipshit

They divorced.

Okay well, push me down and piss on me.

@MarkHenderson I have the advantage of not liking to eat. It's such a annoying chore. I want to do fun things, and stopping to eat several times a day just suuuuucks

I got up to like 195-ish while I was on a bulking diet in my heaviest weight lifting months. When I got hammered with two months of straight vertigo... and just now stepped on a scale a month ago or so, I lost about 15 pounds.

And that was through three junk-food holidays. Christmas, Valentines, and Easter

Freaking Cadbury mini eggs, man.

Actually, no, about 20 pounds. I'm 175

@Wesley OH yeah you're so fat at 195 da fuq?

Man get otta' here

@Jacob I was better at last years 195 than I was when I was 18 and 195. Way more muscle. Was doing some really good leg days and packing on a lot in my chest.

So wasn't fat, but was meaty. It was a bulk phase. My intention was to start a cut about April when I hit 205 or so. However, vertigo had other plans for me.

5:15 AM

@Jacob 88 kilos? Fuck man that's like 2 kilos lighter than my first goal weight :p

@MarkHenderson Put the TimTams down, tubs. =P

@Wesley I started in may last year right at 300, I'm down to 265 or so right now

@Jacob How did you feel at 300? Did your joints hurt? Just generally bleh?

@Wesley Nah not really.

Yeah you're painfully young and have that advantage.

Quick recovery and resistance to wear and tear.

And 35 pounds down - that's good. I know everyone is probably throwing their worthless advice at you making you want to scream, but I'll add mine: Baby steps. Keep it down to small achievements for the long term.

5:17 AM

@Wesley which is exactly why I'm doing this now and not later. Well that and girls...

@Wesley I don't weigh myself often, I really just care how I look.

I literally tell people to start with 60 seconds of something once a day and don't add a single second for a month at least. Not until they get to 30 consecutive days of one minute of something

I usually weigh 145. I don't really check unless there's a scale sitting around in someone's 'stroom or I'm at the doctor.

It's about habits, not weights, bodyfat percentage, this or that. It's about making a good life change.

But I don't lift.

@Wesley How the fuck can I when my wife does this for easter:

5:18 AM

@Skyhawk How tall are you?

@Wesley 71in

And that's not including the shit that we got given from family

@MarkHenderson Burn it with fire.

Son of a mother. You know what I'd do? (And I say this as an unmarried man) I'd kiss her on the cheek and say "I love you, but I'm not eating most of those."
Or at the worst I'd smile, pocket some of them and give them out to people at work each day.

5:19 AM

@MarkHenderson It's just poison mixed with the blood of African child slaves.

@Skyhawk Okay, I'm 70. That's pretty lean. I've been 120 ish once when I was sick -- can't say I liked it. Was always cold.

@MarkHenderson P90x? That's how, or insanity too

@Wesley You mean if I were fat I'd be warm?

Warm er, yeah.

@Wesley I actually don't mind mild discomfort.

5:21 AM

@Wesley Her theory is that they will last a month

I.. doubt it

@MarkHenderson Heh, my mom is kinda like that but a few levels up. If she had that in the house she'd expect it to last until next Easter. So you can see where I get the "eat like a bird" habit from. =P

@Wesley Most of those eggs have an expiry date of June. I think the shops just throw out all their old stock knowing it iwll get sold

@Jacob Is 300 pounds more because of dormancy or because of eating habits?

If I may ask.

@Wesley dormancy, my diet was never too terrible, but I never did anything

@Jacob Gotcha. So you didn't sit down and eat a XL Pizza with stuffed crust five meals a day? =P

I don't understand how people afford that.

It's expensive to be obese. It's a good thing I don't like eating a ton because if I sat down and thought about it, I don't have enough money to eat very well anyway. =/

5:25 AM

Same story here

I don't really eat like that

I'm just dormant

@MarkHenderson What do you weigh?

@Wesley The best part about being lean is that the weight and balance implications are highly favorable.

@Jacob 95

I used to be 101

500g a week was my goal and I was able to meet it most weeks

(that's kgs btw)

@MarkHenderson That's 209 in real numbers BTW

@MarkHenderson Not bad

5:29 AM

@MarkHenderson Heh, you'd be pretty tiny if not.

@MarkHenderson That's 222 in real numbesr

@MarkHenderson Get shredded.

@Jacob It's not great. BMI classifies that as obese. By a long way.

Almost morbidly

@MarkHenderson "Big, Morbid Idjit"

=P

@MarkHenderson How tall are you?

179cm

5:31 AM

@ShaneMadden (5'10 1/2 in real numbers)

Whereas my wife is 189cm and is 9 months pregnant and she weighs 95kg

@MarkHenderson You said she was 6'2, that's 6'2 1/2

@MarkHenderson Hah!

@MarkHenderson She could seriously kick your ass couldn't she.

@Wesley Well, I dunno. Thats just what she told me

@Wesley Nah she's as weak as piss

5:33 AM

@MarkHenderson lol'd for real

No upper or lower body strength. She can't even get out of a pool without using the ladder

@MarkHenderson Neither could I...

@Jacob Well then maybe she could take you in a fight

@MarkHenderson She's got the reach advantage. Maybe she could smack him from a distance, then bob and weave.

Unit conversions are silly. Apparently I'm 183 cm and 73 kg.

Kevin Soviero

5:35 AM

I took a nap today from ~6pm - ~11pm... I don't foresee sleep in my near future... Plus I have to get up for work at 6:30am.

This sucks

@ShaneMadden You skinny freak.

@Wesley Indeed.

@ShaneMadden Actually Tom O takes you. He's 188cm and like 57kg.

Is it weird I know all of this stuff about people?

I have a rolodex mind that only remembers information if it's useless.

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@Wesley Only a little.

@ShaneMadden I will forever remember your height and weight as of this date.

5:37 AM

@Wesley ..clearly I need to change them, then.

However, this will come in handy if I get married. I will never forget a birthday or anniversary.

Switching to lard + bread diet.

@ShaneMadden Get ripped.

@Wesley I don't wish to.

Though the leg thingies work pretty well after skiing for 4 months

@ShaneMadden Functional strength. Nice.

I had legs of steel after years of rollerblading / rollerhockey as a teen.

Then I got into IT and became a marshmallow.

They said I could become anything I wanted, so I became the Michelin Man.

5:40 AM

@Wesley Heh, one of my coworkers from the last job does roller derby. He was down in your neck of the woods for it a couple months back actually.

@Skyhawk How do you stay so svelt and trim?

@ShaneMadden Ohhh rollerderby! I was convinced that I'd be happy if I could just get one of those rollerderby girls to date me.

I'm weird.

Also, one never did.

Dammit.

I wasn't hardcore enough, apparently.

Plus I cried when I twisted my ankle.

@Wesley That's what he did, seemed to work out pretty well.

@ShaneMadden Jealous.

1:41AM oh crap, time for bed - 3 hours

We've got like six female derby teams here in Phoenix

@Jacob GO TO BED YOUNG MAN

5:42 AM

@Wesley Man, get on that!

@ShaneMadden I KNOW!

@Wesley I don't respect your AUTHORATAY

shit, no stars

otherwise I would star you, @Jacob

@strugee meh whatever

@strugee Stop starring so much!

5:45 AM

@Wesley I CAN STOP WHENEVER I WANT

@Wesley Aren't they all lesbians? </offensive>

@strugee Wait it's you who stars all my things.

@MarkHenderson All except the not lesbian ones.

@Wesley probably

Bob

@MarkHenderson Chocolate has expiry dates now?

5:46 AM

I have really low standards for what I find funny

Suddenly, @DennisKaarsemaker!

Kevin Soviero

Poor pigeons: youtube.com/watch?v=KSRogntnBJw

@Wesley ohai!

@DennisKaarsemaker I thought you didn't like Chef. =P

@Wesley I don't

5:47 AM

@DennisKaarsemaker u suk :(

@Wesley that won't make me like it :)

@DennisKaarsemaker Hey, I know, you want to use NixOS and NixOPS!

Global DevOps Engineer - Remote

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10 hours ago, by Wesley

NixOS and Haskell - do I get complementary moustache wax as part of the compensation package?

@Wesley never heard of it

dammit

at risk of starting a flamewar:

why do people here hate NixOS so much? it seems like it's a pretty interesting way to manage a system.

5:49 AM

@DennisKaarsemaker That's because you're a healthy adult.

(disclaimer: I haven't tried it out yet)

@Wesley that's the closest you ever got to giving me a compliment!

@DennisKaarsemaker is a fantastic human being, charming, intelligent and I love him.

5:51 AM

Oh wow he really did gee tee eff oh.

@Wesley add a " tuh"

NixOS seems to be an edge case research project that has yet to be tested and confirmed useful, so I give props to those willing to jump in the bandwagon and kick the tires, but at the moment it almost appears to be fanning the flames of corporate cultures that just want to roll their own because their too amazing to use big enterprise distros and packages.

@strugee ping

@strugee Because youaren't looking in the admin perspective?

@Wesley I hopped in a private tab, so I wasn't logged in, and laughed for 3 straight minutes at this reaction

I'm still laughing

@Jacob hmm

I dunno, it seems like the atomic changes would be useful

There are just some startup shops, typically run my CompSci doctoral candidates that were too busy sipping luwok coffee and reading Gravity's Rainbow to finish their dissertation, and they think they're Cthulu's gift to 1s and 0s so they have to do everything different because of deep thoughts and informatic theory precision!

5:55 AM

but I can see how it would be annoying to work with, especially if you're used to a more traditional approach

ok, I looked at the nixos page and can really only say one thing

it's like gentoo, but on more crack

not again

now look up Guix

At the end of the day you just end up having a couple hundred gentoo instances, fourteen of which actually have a workload on it, and the other 186 are just micro instances making Amazon richer until the startup tanks on its VC and everyone scatters before the repo men come to take their IKEA desks.

@DennisKaarsemaker Totally lol'd

I'm migrating everything to a custom compiled I think Nix the package manager is important, I really do, as it's going to test out different theories. Maybe in 5 or 10 years it will contribute it's thought and theory to mainline distros.

@DennisKaarsemaker I love The Comms Room so much

@Wesley proofread thyself

watching youtube on 3g is frustrating

6:00 AM

Oh wow, I was thinking "It would be totally hilarious if NixOS was based on some trendy kernal like hurd" -- aaaaand it's based on hurd.

Wow, that's just too good to be true.

@DennisKaarsemaker Be thankful we're not still using acoustic couplers.

Do you know what it's like to have to whistle porn across a line to your buddies?

Sucks.

@Wesley is it really? I... did not realize that

actually, that tracks

@Wesley "Is that a cock I'm hearing?"

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@strugee Yeah. That is the most hipster-ironic thing I've heard all year.

@Wesley I think the Hurd is important for the same reason NixOS is: it's really interesting

@DennisKaarsemaker "No IT'S YOUR MOM"

6:02 AM

same with Plan 9

even though they're not widely used they have really interesting ideas that make their way back into the mainstream

NixOS is interesting in the same way that internment camps are interesting, in that it has morbid research potential but the people that are responsible should be executed by firing squad.

oh jeez, that nixos thing is built by an otherwise respectable dutch university.

And with that, I flee for bed.

Later.

headbonks @DennisKaarsemaker

you have fleas in your bed.

@Wesley you know, if you had divided loyalties in a conflict, and it was between internment or conscription, internment might not seem so bad...

6:09 AM

G'day

oi

EC2 is difficult to use properly

...

little, trivial things like "I want my instances to have a Name tag for the console which is the same as their automatically generated DNS hostname" are obscenely complicated.

Ah - I don't really do much with them myself

6:24 AM

WOO who wants to pay 8c/MB downloaded?! telstra.com.au/small-business/broadband/office-broadband/…

$81/Gigabyte!

Anyway I'm off for a long weekend, see you fuckers Monday

(/sunday, ymmv)

@MarkHenderson what year is it?

have a good weekend

6:55 AM

Morning

Bob

7:24 AM

@FalconMomot Welcome to Australia.

Journeyman Geek

Him, apparently the prepaid 3g sim I use in India is undercharging me. This is neat

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Until they discover their mistake and make it up by charging you the difference :P

Journeyman Geek

Lol. Maybe. Its also saying my last session was 0 gb

Though that might be cause its polling day

Mb. Not that the magnitude makes a difference

@MarkHenderson lazy bastard

Magellan

8:07 AM

@DennisKaarsemaker The Queen's visiting, so they all get another long weekend down there.

Or the royal family, or whatever.

Which means, of course, that I get to work extra hours again this weekend to cover their holiday.

8:32 AM

'sup

We had a holiday tomorrow to remember the soldiers who fought in the world wars

Almost all of them are dead now, but we have some Vietnam vets around, and plenty of Iraq vets

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_Day

faker

This new product launch we are doing is hilarious!
We "launched" it two weeks ago but we are not allowed to talk to anyone outside the company.

@strugee Sounds like a wrapper around Gentoo.

faker

I just signed up at the website and noticed that the welcome e-mail mentions the wrong domain in the Subject. Someone typo'ed it, it's not ours.
And SPF check fail for that mail too. man...

8:49 AM

On the vSphere 5.5 web console, can I see what template was used to deploy a VM?

9:09 AM

Flash can GDIAF; locking up everything every 30 seconds...

9:52 AM

@Dan I don't believe so no

@Chopper3 No, doesn't look it - no big deal. I'm not loving the 5.5 Web Console by the way

@Dan No, it's definitely one of those 'in evolution' things, it's way better than 5.1's version but 6 is nicer still

@Chopper3 Good to know!

10:26 AM

@Chopper3 6?

@MichelZ Yes, one-louder than 5

@Chopper3 yes, but vSphere 6?

@MichelZ I work for vmw's 3rd or 4th biggest client so we're on the beta programme

ah :) good things then?

@MichelZ I think this is public knowledge but they'd initially targeted May for the release, and the basic ESXi/NSX and vCenter/vCA will be ready to go by then but they decided to do some really major changes to all of the ancillary products (vCOps, vCAC/vCD/AppDir etc.) and they want to launch the whole lot as one set, so it's all been put back to March 2015 sorry

@MichelZ Oh and the actual new esxi as it stands isn't that big an upgrade over 5.5, they've made it much easier to deploy NSX and one or two other kernel-level add-ons but it's not that much better to be honest, the emphasis will be on the vCenter Appliance much more by the way

10:36 AM

@Chopper3 thx.. will have a research on that then :D

Mathias R. Jessen

@Wesley Here, have another one endorsement

11:04 AM

@Chopper3 will the web client not suck by then? Still on 5.0...

I love been crippled by policy

Got an issue I reckon is being caused by a GPO, but we're not allowed to block inheritance to test

@Dan you don't have an isolated test environment you can clone into?

@Andrew No, I'm on-site - none of my own infra

I know the application works elswhere, it's definitely a local issue

11:22 AM

This is a joy serverfault.com/questions/591040/…

read the comments

I'm going to have a database with billions of records ...

What's an index ...

@JamesRyan: Hi, Thanks for the reply, what did you mean by "index" ? — GloryOfSuccess 7 mins ago

@seveas @devopstom Red flag means, there's an awesome place to work, right? #nixos #rocks

Tweeted by wmertens on April 24, 2014 at 11:11 AM in reply to seveas

@TomO'Connor not sure if trolling or srs...

@DennisKaarsemaker That's always been my theory... then again, I've hated every employer I've had, so, it occurs to me I may be wrong.

@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork I tried to make a joke about bulls liking red flags and then getting poked to death by sharp object, but I couldn't make it funny. Anyone else want to have a go?

11:38 AM

Well, if you like red flags, let me introduce you to this bullfighter I know...

In other news, I don't like Mondays. This is the worst kind of Monday.

@JennyD All I got is communism and the red Soviet flags. And I can't tie that together with the good place to work bit.

@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork in soviet russia, red flag likes you!

@DennisKaarsemaker Almost. In Soviet Russia, red flag works you!

@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork My husband's ex-girlfriend grew up in the USSR. Once when the three of us were in the city, there was an orchestra that played the old USSR anthem. We had to physically restrain her from running up and chewing them out.

@DennisKaarsemaker "Sure, red flags are really attractive. It's the picadors and toreadors with sharp objects hidden behind the red flag that's the problem..."?

11:41 AM

Boom - fixing the problems that the last guy couldn't. Feels good.

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Enh, words aren't heavy enough to do any real damage. That's why I prefer to throw chunks of lead at people that displease me.

@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork My sister in law once threw an MS Word manual at a coworker. He survived, but he got a bruise.

He didn't read it, though, but at least he started asking other people.

@DennisKaarsemaker I have no idea.

@Andrew sorry for the delay - was away - there's ONLY a web client with v6, not .net client option at all, and yes it's...better...though not perfect, and does include SRM and VUM in the web client this time

12:01 PM

Can anyone remember the real meaning of samba error nt_status_none_mapped ?

@TomO'Connor It means there's nothing mapped, duh

@Dan OK, then, smartarse, how do I fix it?

@TomO'Connor Fire

I was going to ask a question, too, but I daren't now

Dan, you're fired.

Suck it.

12:04 PM

Sure. Unzip.

4

*fetches pop corn*
*sits down to watch*

I'm going for lunch, catch me in the disabled loo

3

@JennyD Get out of it, you perverted lesbian scatterbrain

@Dan I need some inspiration for my slash fic!

I can credit you two!

...Webcam?

@Chopper3 so... worth upgrading from 5.0?

@Andrew it will be, more-so if you use a lot of their ancillary products, if you just use ESXi and vCenter it's less compelling

12:14 PM

Heh, VMware.

@Chopper3 we use esxi, vcenter, netapp plugin (needs upgrading)

Q: Performance difference between ramfs and tmpfs

I hate when posters get hung up on a concept or idea...

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I need to setup an in memory storage system for around 10 GB of data, consisting of many 100 kb single files(images). There will be lots of reads and fairly periodic writes(adding new files, deleting some old ones). Now, I know that tmpfs behaves like a regular file system for which you can, for ...

linux filesystems mount ramdisk tmpfs

Can we maybe say that one of them is always superior or not?

@Andrew the really big difference is that there's going to be a LOT less databases around the place if you use those extra products - at the moment you have an SSO DB, a vCenter DB them separate ones for vCOps, vCAC/IaaS, vCD and so on - you can end up with a LOT of them, this will collapse down to just two - the SSO/vCenter one and the vCOPs one - all the other products will use the vCOPs DB and there'll be a single web interface for all of them too

@Chopper3 eh, we got our VAR to do it for us... don't think we've ever looked at the SQL and just use windows auth for the vCenter VM

@ewwhite he needs an SSD

@JennyD Intriguing.

12:18 PM

@Andrew ah, we're a different setup

Q: Video driver for HP DL380 G6 for Ubuntu 14.04

@chopper3 I'm not excited about it.

I did hate having so many management VMs. Plus we had chargeback, usage meters, vCloud and other supporting DBs.

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I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 w/GUI on an HP DL380 G6 I found lying around - it has an ATI ES1000 graphics chip. After install the screen is very 'laggy' and only 1024 resolution (I have 1280 monitor). I believe I have tried the community/RadeonDriver but it reports 'llvmpipe' which indica...

ubuntu hp drivers

@ewwhite I'm not about just ESXi no, but the new way of modularising the extra products - for us who buy 'the lot' makes a lot of sense, much easier to deploy and far less product over/under-lap