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12:11 AM
I don't think it would be weird
pointing hand means "this does something!"
 
lunch break!
brb
 
 
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1:12 AM
aaand back
 
@Scott nah I almost got off before you came. Just needed to get dinner.
 
 
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3:40 AM
sup
 
Hi! I see you have acquired a face!
 
yes.. i know its not much though
 
@Yisela Oh hey. Now that you mention it, I recall talk of this. To be honest, I don't know what the status of that is... my best guess at the moment is that no actual work on that happened (we have one designer and he's pretty overworked right now), but I will check tomorrow and see what's what. — Anna Lear 18 mins ago
 
how are you?
 
Anna Lear's comment
about the site early redesign
I don't think they have anything
 
3:46 AM
I guess thats good
 
because we can maybe help?
 
Im lost sorry??
what are we talking about?
 
haha
sorry
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Q: Can we change the appearance of the site

Matt_2.0I see a few sites that are in meta or live that have their own custom and tailored look. Since this is a creative community I was wondering if we would be allowed to customize or re-design our site to be more appealing and creative in nature. How are other boards allowed to be different?

 
about all my projects?
lol ha ha
 
:D
 
3:54 AM
Im going to outsource some of my work to you... and pay you in beer.... ok?
 
hahaha
I'd prefer wine
 
well that is fine.
 
or chocolates
cool, I'm in! :P
 
 
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12:52 PM
ahoy
 
1:33 PM
@JohnB alloa
 
1:53 PM
@Matt_2.0 how did you get your picture to change? mine changed in the site but not on the chat.
 
double clicked on the account and uploaded it to all sites
its been awhile but last I looked it will only update in some areas and you must apply it to everywhere
 
2:23 PM
sup @Joonas
 
 
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3:54 PM
@Ryan something is goofy with it
maybe try re-upping it
 
sup
 
same ol
 
Any advise on how I can edit my question so it wont get closed?
 
Well, no one has voted to close it yet so I don't think it will be an issue
 
thought it may be a good question but I can see why its kinda open ended
 
3:59 PM
if "the powers that be" refer to Yisela and I then it won't get closed as our stance is to do what it takes to keep as many questions open as possible
 
;)
sup crazy buddy
 
4:37 PM
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Q: alternatives to adobe software (InDesign, Photoshop and Illustrator)

grotescaIs there any professional mac software that i can use to replace some of the adobe software (InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator)? i don’t mean one that replaces all but the equivalent of each one.

@Matt_2.0 you see any tags I missed?
 
looks good. I didnt see that question earlier
I would also like to petition a few tags for it
 
like what?
 
photoshop-alternative, illustrator-alternative, InDesign-alternative
 
dunno how useful those would be
would they apply to any questions besides this one?
 
we'd have to go back to each area and add the tag
 
4:43 PM
I think you lost me
 
go to the limited questions and add the tags
 
now I'm even more confused
 
14 questions for photoshop elements but add the new tag photoshop-alternative to it
 
oh
meh I don't know about that
 
so when a search is done or the tag is selected for photoshop-alternative they will appear
 
4:45 PM
you could just do a search for [photoshop-elements] instead!
 
ya but as the question shows dude didnt know that ;)
 
I don't see any added benefit =\
 
thats cool
just a thought
 
I'm on a mission to flesh out the tag wikis
....although approximately 0 people look at them
 
I do
 
4:49 PM
ok 1 person
they're in such an obscure location, very easy to overlook
I took a crash course in InDesign last night
 
I added my answer to that question
 
nice
 
now add all of those, lol
 
InDesign is pretty diesel
....I've only ever used Word for publishing really
it's like Word on steroids
 
I think I will test Scribus out... one day
 
5:42 PM
@Matt_2.0 Hello. Nothing much :) I was actually just supposed to read the transcript, I do that occasionally... This time I accidentally entered the chat, DOH! :)
 
a spy!
 
6:03 PM
@JohnB :) I used to be active here at some point, nowadays I just spy..
 
Well, join us!
working on anything interesting lately, Joonas?
 
Well.. I'm going counter that with a question: ..how fluent are you in jquery?
 
Erm, I can use jquery
but I try to avoid it :P
 
:)
 
I prefer lightweight lean mean javascript
Although I've been wanting to play around with the Trello API
and it seems doing so without jQuery is almost unavoidable :(
 
6:09 PM
I'm trying to look for some who knows javascript and jquery to help with ym jquery plugin projects... I always start my projects furiously, but then I start new projects without completing the old ones. i just need someone to keep me in check. Writing documentation is kind of a kryptonite for me, actually :p
 
Oh I'm the same exact way
I have a whole folder of unfinished projects
what sort of plugins?
are then on your github already?
 
Yea, I currently have at least 4 jquery plugins that are pretty much done, but I never got myseld to finish the website...
Only ImageFramer at the moment
I'm gonna hop to my macbook. Writing with ipad is so slow... They should add a voice chat in here.... :/
 
Oh man the chat is weird enough as it is
I like it, but it sure took some getting used to
 
It's not really that weird?
 
I'm used to IRC, and it's certainly not IRC
 
6:15 PM
Other than lack of some features, it's not that different I think
 
more of the "finding" rooms I guess is the weird part for me
 
Certainly different than irc
on that part
...and many other things :9
 
and if you want to "PM" a user that's kinda weird too
 
Yea. That is not very easy to do. No private messaging also...
I mean... :D Private
 
yeah
 
6:20 PM
To answer your prior question, or part of it, this is one of my projects: togglebox.joonas.me/index.php Might not work perfectly, but should work ok :)
 
nice!
works fine for me!
now I am clicking everything on here hoping to find a secret hidden one
 
If I remember correctly, there is a problem with a 1px offset that arises in some situations, just can't remember what situation...
well the index page has 2 boxes
 
I saw the browser one
 
yea
the other one is the first column
Clickety click
 
right :)
 
6:24 PM
It also has small fading at the top and the bottom.... sort of hard to maybe notice it, but still makes a huge difference
( it's only visible when it's animating )
 
oh now I see it
awesome
 
I'm trying to find examples of one of my oldest and biggest projects, but I can only find broken html files
Here we go :D There has been tons of changes, but it does demonstrate what it is about: joonas.me/_1/sic-old-backup-2/sic.html SIC stands for "Simple image caption"
I started this project when I think jquery was about version 1.2 or 1.3 and I didn't know any jquery at that point and very limited javascript
My javascript abilities were basically just enough so that I can make photoshop scripts
The main point is, this project has taught me a lot :)
Some of those captions aren't working, I just noticed..
I know I have more recent example somewhere, but I can't remember where :)
 
ah, neat!
 
sup @Joonas @JohnB
 
Is there a good reference for Photoshop scripting other than the PDFs Adobe provides?
 
6:36 PM
It has shitloads of features and shitloads of code... something like 3k lines of code
 
did someone say code?
 
No, it's just your imagination
 
ok
 
I sometimes search for stuff in here for reference: ps-scripts.com/bb other than that, just general googling :)
Matt, how's your jquery?
 
decent whatsup?
 
6:39 PM
Weell, I feel some of my dignity vanishing away each time I say this, but I'm kinda looking for someone to partner up with to work on my projects...
( jquery plugins )
 
in the same boat.. actually we were talking about this yesterday
 
I don't think it was me who you were talking with
 
no it was john and yel
 
I don't really need that much help as far as writing the code goes, in a sense, but I need someone to keep me going, otherwise I just end up starting new projects before finishing the old one... It's definitely a curse in our family :D
 
I am cursed that way too
 
6:43 PM
Do you have any projects you could show?
 
I can give you a zip file to the one I'm tinkering with, not currently hosted anywhere
 
Yea, I'd like to see
 
it's an exercise in exploring CSS transitions
 
@JohnB did you see my comment about the photoshop script reference?
 
all the animation is done through CSS
yeah, I bookmarked the site thanks :)
oh and that only works in Chrome
 
6:51 PM
I'm very strict in that sense, I would never make something that only works in one browser, unless it's a hack to fix some strange behavior in one browser :)
 
joonas got a portfolio?
 
Not really :D I have joonas.me but that project is unfinished as well :D
 
Well, it's my intention for it to work in all modern browsers, but I haven't got around to that part yet :P
CSS transitions are kinda iffy cross-browser at the moment
 
Jonh, I can't fit that all in my screen! :D
Macbook air 13" :)
 
oh, oops haha
well you get the idea! It's a very early work in progress
just something simple so I can get a good grip on CSS transitions
 
6:54 PM
Quite interesting, I've yet to dove into css3 animations
aside from some simple transitions.....
 
really?
 
they are a bit quirky
 
I like to use jquery so that ie users can enjoy same stuff...
 
I can understand that
 
well, IE10 users can! :D
 
6:55 PM
do you fallback for ie6?
 
Definitely not anymore...
I do kinda make my projects work in ie7+, but that's just me being me...
not that it's super necessary
 
do you work with, cover eyes john, wordpress?
 
:D
 
needing to dive into the woo pretty soon
 
yeah, <!--[if lt IE 7]> <p> Upgrade your damn browser. </p> <![endif]-->
 
6:57 PM
^^ +1
 
I haven't used wordpress in a while, especially after they made the templates all html5 and stuff...
the templates were kinda full already, and now it's like walking in a room where the floor is full of stuff, just kinda trying to find your way through it all...
 
going back and re-designing everything @ 300dpi
 
If you just made it all vector in the first place this wouldn't be a problem!
 
yea but thats a learning curve I do not care to do other than the logo
just trying to do a quick mockup and coding it all out
 
It's impossible for me to use methods that won't work in older browsers ( to some extend )
 
7:02 PM
I would love to be fully in Illustrator but I hate the learning curve for gradients and brushes
 
SVG support was still weak the last time I tried to mess with it
 
I just can't let that happen...
 
SVG BLOWs
 
I did try raphael, but very shortly... It can do some pretty cool stuff
 
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Q: Web page with small amount of text

ispiroWeb page with small amount of text - How would you design it? Put the text in the top left? Center screen? Somewhere else?

john why didn't you close this O_o
 
7:05 PM
why don't you!
 
I cant
I added it be closed as not constructive
 
I didn't close it because it is his first question, there's a chance that enough information could be added to make it acceptable
 
Here's my raphael tinkering :)

http://joonas.me/_1/raphael/raphael.html

http://joonas.me/_1/raphael/raphael2.html

http://joonas.me/_1/raphael/raphael3.html

http://joonas.me/_1/raphael/raphael4.html
 
he should know better with that question when you look at his profile and his stack rep
 
I think sometimes we close questions too fast in here
 
7:08 PM
I agree with that. It comes off as harsh, especially to newer users
 
I agree joonas but that's not a question that can be answered
with an exact answer
nor does it have to correct info to be answered
 
That question is in very thin ice, no question about that... I'm rather lenient about these things sometimes... :)
 
I am too but I weigh the factor of what their profile is and the type of question.
His/her experience shows they are an active member on stack and if he asked a question like that on stackexchange in no time would it have 4 down votes and a closure
 
yea.. and the question does seem kinda.. oddly vague to begin with
 
For me, I'll close a question immediately if it is blatantly off topic. But I would rather work with the user to try and improve it than shut the door in their face straight away
 
7:15 PM
noble john =)
I agree dont get me wrong but I dont think we can answer it
 
IF I WAS A MODERATOR, I WOULD CLOSE EVERY QUESTION THAT I DON'T LIKE!
 
I nominate Joonas for moderator.
 
I RULEZ WITH AN IRON FIST!!
I... I just so wish I could be talking instead of writing
 
ha go to some boards and they do that already
 
I'm only 24 and I have some issues with my finger joints... :D
 
7:17 PM
oh no :(
arthritis?
 
... um...
 
Sometimes It feels like it either is arthritis, or that it is definitely going to go to that at some point
 
get an ernomic (whatever its spelled) mouse
it helps
 
Now it's rather good, but not too long ago I had hard time writing anything, It just felt like my fingers were trying to jump off
 
or maybe that's Carpal tunnel
I am not a doctor
 
7:18 PM
:D
WHAT?
I already made notes and everything..!
 
forgive me
 
...bunch of liars everywhere... grumpy cat face
:D
I'm hilarious
 
 
I need GDAA meetings.. I spend WAY tooooo much time here, lol
joonas you got experience in eCom
 
I pretty much visit several times a day.. I used to have something like.... I don't know.. year of consecutive visits, but then I got super I'll at some point and couldn't visit for one or few days..
Matt, nope. What is it?
 
7:24 PM
eCommerce sites
php
 
Ahh... well, luckily not very much
eCommerce sites can be a nightmare
 
I can confirm this
 
John, you have any jquery plugin projects?
 
ummmm
 
Based on your prior comment, I could guess no, but...
 
7:30 PM
I think I made something to do with CSV at one point
 
that would be macros
 
lemme check my folder of unfinished projects
 
How about you, Matt?
 
matt what?
sorry multitasking
 
Do you have any jquery plugin projects?
 
7:32 PM
that is the only jQuery plugin I ever made :)
 
yes
 
and how glorious is it
 
I'm not super familiar with regex :)
Though, I'm pretty good at googling them....
 
yeah that's about the same as my ability
 
love me some regex with awk and sed
 
7:34 PM
I just go to regexpal and read the reference guide until it works
 
scripting for the win
regexpal?
 
like a jsfiddle for regex ..
 
oh nice
ive got 4 books on regex I need to read =/
 
that's about 4 books too many
 
7:37 PM
ha you would laugh at my wordpress book collection
 
I have no coding books, only some inspirational books for drawing / painting... I'm more BIG pictures kind of guy, rather than ...reading stuff kind of guy
 
well now wordpress books are just a waste of money
 
Im moving to IT kinda guy
I didnt buy the wordpress books
 
because nobody in their right mind would try to sell them?
 
no they were a gift
 
7:40 PM
Matt, they just appeared at your front door and stared at you with their puppy eyes, so you took them in?
Ic..
 
:D
 
something like that
lol
someone else bought them for me
 
@Matt_2.0 why did you say earlier that there's something goofy about my image, it loaded fine for me on the link you left??
 
that was me
doesn't load for me :O
I see the broken image icon
 
Matt, can you show us some of your jquery plugin projects?
 
7:43 PM
I see broken image too
no because they are for work
 
hmm okay maybe that explains why it hasnt shown up in here. I'll have to reupload when I get home
 
Matt, Plahh.... personal projects are the best kind
 
are you a body builder, lol
ha personal projects done pay the bills yet
 
Ah.. so you are that kind of person... I see...
 
actually @Ryan, I can see the image in incognito mode :S
but a hard refresh doesn't fix it in normal mode
weeeeeeird
 
7:45 PM
um.. I do work 50 hours a week at my day job and I have a family.. and children
 
Yea, I kinda figured :)
 
freelance is hard to achieve..
I have a lot of ideas that just need to be completed and its smooth rolling after.
 
I only work 35 hours a week.. but I live alone and I'm a cheapskate...
 
nice
 
no im not a bodybuilder. i do powerlifting
i like using it as my avatar especially on sites like this and chess.com though to break some stereotypes
 
7:48 PM
I powerlift my mouse every day!
 
@Joonas What sort of work do you do?
 
great, lol
 
oh man now I am wondering if I am part of a stereotype :O
 
no john you dont close questions ;)
 
Everyone is part of some stereotype. We can't control that because its the perception of others not our own.
 
7:51 PM
man has a point
 
@JohnB I'm sort of all around graphic designer in a small company. Quite a lot of print stuff. I'm most fluent in photoshop, but at work I use adobe software this order: Illustrator, indesign, photoshop
 
neato
 
I need to only be in Illustrator =/
 
I do kinda cherish the moments when I get to do some proper photoshopping :D
 
So, you're one of thooose guys eh
 
7:54 PM
Like a lot of people, my personal projects exist to fill some hole that I can't fill at work... To be creative on my own terms. This project has a lot to do with filling some sort of photoshop void: github.com/joonaspaakko/Image-Framer-jquery-plugin
 
Illustrator is the supreme ruler of all and if you disagree then you're lame
 
I'm definitely one of those guys..
...and I disagree
 
Naw I'm just messin :) But I rarely use PS at work so I'm much more comfortable in Ai
 
haha.. lately I think I need a miracle before I go critical
 
go critical in what sense? I does not follows
 
7:57 PM
mental break down
too much stress
 
:\
 
job not going anywhere and all my dreams are getting out of reach lately
 
I'm rather mellow yellow when it comes to stressing about stuff, especially work.. I love work, I'm a work-a-holic... I do stress about my personal projects a bit.. Like: "I haven't finished this yet, I'm such a bad person..."
 
I wish it was that easy
 
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