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5:30 AM

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Q: GRAPHIC DESIGN site logo : Who made this ? And why it is like this?

I was wondering, why our beloved site GRAPHIC DESIGN is having a logo like this. I am not saying it is bad or good. Just curious that who made it, and what was the thought process of making a logo like this.

Bakabaka

9:47 AM

@Yisela done.

joojaa

10:09 AM

meow

Bakabaka

hi @Joojaa

prrrr

joojaa

:)

Bakabaka

10:25 AM

@RandomO'Reilly great edit on the colour scheme Q. Made me retract my close vote :)

Random O'Reilly

10:48 AM

@Bakabaka huh?!

Bakabaka

The original Q was way too broad imho. Your edit brought it down to size

Random O'Reilly

ah

yes, i was trying

i have worked with a lot of engineers

:D

and now, i answered

let me know if my answer makes sense?

Bakabaka

it does, +1!

Random O'Reilly

:) thanks

feel that I was rambling

Bakabaka

maybe I'm getting used to your rambling ;)

Random O'Reilly

10:56 AM

LOL

quite possible

you were succinct and dead on regarding the "personal style"

Bakabaka

thx :)

Random O'Reilly

in my experience, though, this "whishy-washy" drives engineers mad

i agree with you - but engineers... ;)

Bakabaka

I guess that's the weird everlasting conflict between right- and left-brainers

I feel happy to be abble to straddle that line a bit

Random O'Reilly

:D

ditto

joojaa

@RandomO'Reilly what post are you talking about

Bakabaka

11:10 AM

@joojaa graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/36327/…

joojaa

ty

Bakabaka

3:00 PM

@JohnB ack, now I'm feeling I'm answering under the eyes of the print master.

JohnB

currently combing over your answer for mistakes and any that I find will be publicly ridiculed at the greatest degree

Bakabaka

:D keep 'em coming, those edits!

JohnB

but your answer is what I would have said :)

I'm a bit unclear about this question graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/q/36359/8708

are they asking how to create the actual portfolio, or asking where to start on creating things to put into the portfolio?

Bakabaka

yeah, I hear you. It's not the clearest of Q's

I added a comment that asks exactly that

JohnB

I don't want to be constructive I just want to chat about it!

also wow @ Brendan's answer!

Bakabaka

3:13 PM

constructive is for losers

JohnB

3:33 PM

hey there @Joe and @Spartan

and @Noctrine

Noctrine

Hey!

Joe

hey hows it going all!

JohnB

decent, how are you?

Noctrine

Trying to figure out how we refer to this site in shorthand :p

Bakabaka

GDSE?

that's how we do it

SpartanDonut

3:34 PM

Oh god lol

JohnB

uh oh, Noctrine comes from the other GD

turf war!

SpartanDonut

We just came from GDSE :P

Game Design?

@JohnB doing good

Dev

3:35 PM

ah ok

GraphDes?

sounds Japanese

Noctrine

Graph Design?

JohnB

we design graphs sometimes

the tragedy of the morning is I can't find where I put my coffee mug

SpartanDonut

Must be nice. My tragedy is VPN sucks.

Bakabaka

otherwise I'd go for 'Those wacky right-brainers'.

SpartanDonut

I like your logo

Joe

3:38 PM

@JohnB just drink it from the pot save you a few trips to the kitchen

SpartanDonut

Though I liked the filled in version better

Joe

@SpartanDonut your thinking the same thing i am, also have logo envy

Bakabaka

@SpartanDonut nah, Scott kind fo ruined that with his 'clown's nose' comparison

SpartanDonut

Well alrighty then lol

I'm not a great artist but I think I'm going to frequent this room. You seem like good people.

Joe

in any case, i've been on a quest if you will... and in game dev i have been posing the question of how to find people interested in collaboration

i thought maybe theres an art / design chat on stack with the same enthusiasm we have over in game dev

and just wanted to pop in and say hi

JohnB

3:42 PM

cool, welcome!

Bakabaka

@Joe Lots of enthusiasm, but you might find this room empty at certain times :)

and what @JohnB said :)

Joe

awesome

@SpartanDonut im thinking about the next game jam

i wonder if theres a design / dev team possibility?!

JohnB

ooh those are fun

Noctrine

:( I like the programmer art. It speaks to the possibility, and means you have to impress with the raw creativity of your concept.

Joe

true but still, just thinkin out loud - as i do frequently

Bakabaka

3:48 PM

hehe... 'programmer art' reminds me of the ancient art of using ASCII to create images

Joe

yea we still do some of that, i think last jam we had an ascii game... lol

Bakabaka

retro! :D

JohnB

I have found the mug

SpartanDonut

@Joe When the jam gets proposed again provide your feedback and see how other people feel

Joe

i absolutely will, it might not be viable but i do think it would be cool to meet some new peeps and get a feel for the dynamic of working with someone else on the art assets

SpartanDonut

3:59 PM

I'd say we could go the route of ludum dare and have two categories but I don't think we have the participation numbers for that

Bakabaka

Let us know, I at least am curious!

JohnB

ping a mod in here when the time comes, we'll be happy to pin a notice for you

SpartanDonut

Awesome. Thanks guys

Joe

at the very least even if that doesn't take off im considering the best way to setup a small team collaboration for a fast prototype

just really something fun with the end goal of going into a portfolio

Bakabaka

@JohnB Neat trick!

JohnB

4:13 PM

Thanks, I couldn't see any "texture" so I assume they're referring to the slight opacity?

or maybe the gradient. Not sure

or maybe the inner glow. Or maybe all of the above :P

Bakabaka

I guess just the combination of effects

SpartanDonut

Oh hey - anyone here use illustrator with a tablet? I've got a Cintiq and PS and was considering getting Illustrator. Seems many of the resources out there for drawing are for Illustrator so I've gained some interest in that realm

JohnB

I have a few times but not that often. I have an old Wacom Bamboo

@Scott would be our resident expert on that but I don't think he's awake yet

SpartanDonut

Trying to learn to do my own art is a long story short anyway

JohnB

They're a lot of fun to use with Illustrator in my experience

Joe

4:20 PM

@SpartanDonut is it a regular tablet or a tablet display?

JohnB

I think @Joonas has a Cintiq as well

Bakabaka

gents, ladies and genderlesses, I'm going to leave you. Working day's past over here.

JohnB

later!

Bakabaka

see ya!

Joe

adios nice talkin to ya!

Bakabaka

4:22 PM

@Joe same here :D

JohnB

4:56 PM

arg Scott is awake, need to type faster

Scott

@SpartanDonut I use an Intuos with Illustrator without issues. It's not as helpful as it is in Photoshop. Just the nature of Illustrator is click, click, click-drag, click. Which is much different than Photoshop painting. The tablet is helpful with some things in Illustrator and I'd hate to go back to a mouse.

Photoshop without a tablet means you're only really using 70-80% of Photoshop. Illustrator without a tablet means you're using 90-95% of Illustrator still.

But there are some features in Illustrator the tablet helps with.. mainly the freeform tools - brushes primarily. If you use a lot of brushes or the pencil tool in Illustrator, then a tablet would be helpful.

Otherwise you can probably do without one.

Scott

5:24 PM

..... not that it matters :)

Joe

i think he got dragged into some work stuff he went mia in game dev, he will be back and im sure he will appreciate that

SpartanDonut

5:47 PM

@Scott interesting information. Thanks. It's kind of what I figured... that said, I have minimal experience with Illustrator - I assume given the vector nature of Illustrator, the free form tools still produce vector graphics? For example if I drew with the pencil tool It would produce a line or spline or whatever it's called and I can then manipulate it as I would if I had created the line with another tool?

If so, this could actually really help me because I don't exactly have the steadiest hands and in PS I find myself undoing and trying things again

Emilie

6:02 PM

Anyone else getting merch? I got an email an hour ago or so

JohnB

@Emilie just checked, got the e-mail too

Emilie

@SpartanDonut yes you can rework lines in illustrator

JohnB

woot

SpartanDonut

Cool. I'll probably give Illustrator a go

Emilie

do you use a tablet?

SpartanDonut

6:06 PM

I've got a Cintiq that I've been playing with in PS trying to get better at producing my own art for game dev

Emilie

oOO cintiq

you could try this: youtube.com/watch?v=r9Gbp2DM3Oo

there are some calibration options you can set on your brush to simplify the lines you draw

ultimately makes them look less shaky

SpartanDonut

Yeah what he's doing there / how he's doing it looks really good / what I would like to do

Emilie

All the lines he draws can be selected afterwards and reworked if needed with the mouse

SpartanDonut

Sounds good to me

Scott

6:27 PM

@SpartanDonut Yes, the freeform tools generate vector items. But you should be aware, Illustrator is not Photoshop. It's an entirely different mindset. Just because you're proficient with Photoshop, it won't mean you necessarily pick up Illustrator easily. I'd encourage you to try the free trial first.

SpartanDonut

Are you able to elaborate on that at all?

Scott

Some Photoshop masters simply can't work well in Illustrator (and vice versa)

Well Photoshop is painting... just like you'd paint on canvas.

Illustrator is more like working wiht cut out pieces of construction paper (a la South Park animation)

Vector apps are object-oriented, Photoshop is not.

Some people have absolutely no issue using either.

But others find Illustrator terribly frustrating when they come from a Photoshop background.

You shouldn't just assume you can pick up Illustrator and paint the same way you do in Photoshop. They are two separate apps for a reason.

SpartanDonut

Well I'm not exactly great at painting in PhotoShop as it is. I've got PS for photo editing and some basic web design stuff. I'm not really an artist by trade.

I like working with vector graphics though my experience is limited to pretty much InkScape. I find InkScape a little difficult to use though from a UX standpoint

I've not tried pen based work with InkScape either though

At this point, whether I pick PS or Illustrator for my painting is going to come down to which style of painting I prefer. Leveraging the trial is a good idea certainly... but either app I'm going to need significant practice with yet.

Scott

I find Inkscape a bit difficult to use from a UX standpoint :)

SpartanDonut

Glad to know it's not just me. It's a lot like how I can't really use GIMP because I'm so accustomed to PS... or at least that's my hope as far as the InkScape / Illustrator comparison goes

Scott

6:42 PM

I find inkscape just odd and unreliable in places. But that may simply be because I'm so accustomed to Illustrator.

If you're not overly proficient in either app... it's a good time to get your feet wet with Illustrator. Some people take to vector work much, much, easier than they do to raster work

SpartanDonut

All good advice. I appreciate the time you've taken to discuss this with me.

Scott

Not a problem at all. Happy to help

Joe

7:08 PM

you are both making me want to buy a new stylus / tablet setup...

SpartanDonut

It's quite nice. I'm just sad I'm not very good at it yet

I definitely prefer it (in PS) over mouse work

I'll be giving Illustrator a go and hopefully I see good results

Joe

you get a good deal on your cintiq?

its essentially a display / input right?

SpartanDonut

No deal. Just felt ambitious and I enjoy new toys.

But yeah it essentially acts as a 3rd monitor with pen support

Joe

im assuming it needs a video hookup? does it add strain to the gpu?

SpartanDonut

Yeah its got one cable that plugs into video, usb, and power

I don't know what kind of GPU strain there would be... probably nothing that adding another monitor wouldn't do

Joe

7:22 PM

i mean im pushing 2 screens on a mac mini

so i dont have a real rig / anyways

you get the big one?

SpartanDonut

Just the 13 inch if I am remembering correctly

Yeah that's the one

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