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fectin

12:00 AM

As in, contains errors, even within the bad assumptions.

I don't know if it's worth engaging on though, because it's almost unanswerably vague anyway.

Shalvenay

hey as well @fectin

fectin

hey!

Miniman

@fectin If you mean the egregiously wrong formula he gives, he doesn't actually use it anyway.

fectin

Hard to say. there are several egregiously wrong formulas

Miniman

Ah, I meant the most egregiously wrong one - chance to save = (21 - ConSave) / 20

The Oracle

12:06 AM

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Q: Is there anything that can be done about duplicate answer spam?

Some of our questions, especially good ones, draw a LOT of answers. Unfortunately, a lot of the time many of those answers make the same points over and over, often without introducing any new information. Even when they do differ somewhat we often have a situation where someone asks something ...

Miniman

Because, yanno, the higher your bonus, the less likely you are to save >.<

fectin

The sum part is pretty rough too

Is it worth trying to make it right though?

Up to you, really.

@Shalvenay hiya

how're things going?

12:17 AM

Behind on grading. (The life of a teacher, really.) But, I've got a steady job in a stable career, so that's nothing to complain about =)

@Shalvenay What's up in the midlands?

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 winter's last few gasps (rain today, snow tomorrow)

nitsua60

@Shalvenay Interesting--we're experiencing the exact opposite here. In the sixties and sunny today.

(Probably the global warming hasn't hit you over there yet.)

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 we were up into the 60s earlier this week

nitsua60

Ah, so you sent us your excess global warming.

=D

Shalvenay

also, the question about the 6-year-old is kinda interesting -- I suspect a lot of it depends on the party, too.

some parties are way more aggressive when it comes to what fights they pick than others...

Karelzarath

12:31 AM

I suspect that party will quickly become markedly less aggressive. Or at least more protective of their adopted charge.

Shalvenay

@Karelzarath I agree -- it also depends on how the GM handles the NPC too

or whoever is in charge, that is

VIPs in games can be...cringeworthy at times.

BESW

Reading between the lines, I expect the party will wind up with a child soldier NPC.

nitsua60

@Miniman Left a comment about that one, haven't really read much farther. The whole "assume no hit is >21 pts" has me putting on the mental brakes, because that's just such a strange assumption.

Shalvenay

@BESW perhaps. I'm really not sure how such a thing would work with the AD&D party I'm in for instance, though, other than the obvious oddness of having a gnoll for an adoptive parent

nitsua60

(I mean, I get it: scope the problem to the answer you have, and all. But in terms of really gleaning any knowledge out of it...?)

BESW

12:35 AM

And now I'm thinking about the gnoll fighter in Vernon's 4e campaign.

They went full hyena-person with the concept, and his version of "marking" enemies is peeing on them.

Karelzarath

@BESW -.-

Miniman

@nitsua60 (Well, the purpose of the question and answer is to support criticism of this answer.)

nitsua60

@Miniman That's... a question?

Shalvenay

heheh. I went with a fairly strong disciplinarian undertone with my gnoll, inspired by my past experience seeing others playing Thayanesque/Kossuthite gnoll monks

Miniman

@nitsua60 Not sure what you mean by that?

nitsua60

12:38 AM

@Miniman Just that it strikes me as a really strange question for us to have. Mid-design homebrew, it feels.

Miniman

@nitsua60 It's not like homebrew is off-topic or anything. It's just rare that questions about homebrew are good questions for the site.

Karelzarath

@nitsua60 Busting out charts and math in an attempt to prove that something is over/underpowered always makes me cringe a little. I have to wonder what that guy's characters are like.

Shalvenay

@Karelzarath yeah -- power norms depend on the table

some of those "OP" paladins and such that Anne Aunyme was pointing out would actually be badly underpowered at some of the tables I've played at in the past, I reckon

but that game was extremely high magic

BESW

Character sketch: Blossom Honeybumble, halfling fighter.

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Karelzarath

Oh, I remember the Monty Haul games from back in the day.

I've also run many 3.5 sessions where no dice were rolled and no combat happened.

Table variance (that evil term again!) is huge in this hobby, which is one of the things I love.

I like seeing how other people play. It almost always gives me something I can take and incorporate into my own games.

@BESW That is super cute. Sending it to my GF who loves playing gnomes and halflings.

Shalvenay

12:51 AM

@Karelzarath yeah, my main problem with going table-hunting on a large scale is concern about inadvertently leaving a trail of broken games in my wake as I search for players and tables that work with my playstyle (although if you want to discuss this further, we should trundle that talk off to the NAB)

BESW

@Karelzarath I know folks who use a social-focused system for those scenes, and a combat-focused system for the combat scenes. Like, combining Fate and D&D 4e.

Karelzarath

@BESW Hmm. Very neat idea.

@Shalvenay NAB?

BESW

(Fate is technically agnostic to the type of scene it's supporting; it handles social and physical conflict equally well. But if you want fiddly tactics, it's not the system for you.)

Not a bar, but plays one on TV

I'm not a place to unwind after work, but I play one on TV.

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Bad copypasta. Bad.

Shalvenay

@BESW at least it didn't crash the chat

Karelzarath

lol, I was wondering what you were soliciting for a second.

BESW

12:55 AM

Shalv's RPG struggles are complex and unusual and tend to take a very long time to discuss, so we've started shunting them to the Not A Bar in order to avoid overwhelming all other conversation for hours on end.

Folks who want to take part can just bop over there.

Shalvenay

@BESW although if I ever find myself on the isle of Guam, we may just have to set up a meetup

BESW

@Shalvenay Absolutely, but that address wouldn't be useful for finding me.

Shalvenay

@BESW ah, haha.

Karelzarath

Unless we staked out the post office and waiting for you to get your mail. Mwa ha ha!

Er, ahem.

BESW

[grin] I was putting together a file for a client.

Karelzarath

12:57 AM

>.>

BESW

@Karelzarath Gnooooome!

(For the record, I'm getting these via Inclusive Medieval and Fantasy, a very new tumblr dedicated to exactly what it says on the tin.)

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Karelzarath

Ooh, excellent. I shall steal those for brownie points.

Adeptus

So, I found out last week that my carefully-chosen character name is also the name of a spice. (also some character on some show I've never heard of)

Shalvenay

@Adeptus just imagine the look on the Faerun designers' faces when they found out that Kossuth, WI exists

nitsua60

@Karelzarath It's a good thing you weren't here when I was brainstorming my most-recent AL character. (cc: @Miniman) The charts were a little... excessive, maybe?

Adeptus

1:13 AM

@Shalvenay and several others

Shalvenay

@Adeptus sheesh.

Miniman

@nitsua60 Is there such a thing as excessivity when it comes to charts?

Karelzarath

@Miniman Depends on the number of pivot tables employed and the depth of the data behind them.

nitsua60

(only one layer--whew!)

Miniman

That terrible moment when you realise the noun form of excessive that you were trying to remember is just excess.

Karelzarath

1:20 AM

Excessiveness? Excessivity?

nitsua60

Quick, people: name the single stupidest thought you can remember having.

Karelzarath

"Where are my glasses?" as I have them on my face and am using them to see.

Miniman

Yeah, saying to someone on the phone "Wait, I have to find my phone." Or, on one occasion, typing it into a text

nitsua60

ooh.

Miniman

How about you?

Shalvenay

1:25 AM

@Karelzarath or how many lines of R were involved in their generation

nitsua60

Two contenders, and I can never decide which is worse.

1: "Ahh... it's nice and cool in here" he said, sweating from his labors, as he lowered himself to the floor of a newly-made igloo.

2: "Ugh, this is heavy," he thought, trying to lift a lead brick off the counter one-handed.

Karelzarath

@Shalvenay MS Excel: the single most popular database in use in the business world.

nitsua60

@Shalvenay R lies on my "someday" list.

Karelzarath

R is on my "why do you hate me and want me to suffer?" list.

Shalvenay

@Karelzarath hahahah

Karelzarath

1:29 AM

It's below PHP, Perl, and (some days) Python, but it's on the list.

Miniman

Is your list in alphabetical order?

Cos that would be awesome.

Shalvenay

@Karelzarath I program in C++ for my day job, on a legacy codebase that could very well be a candidate in the Great Codethulu Contest

Karelzarath

It's an unordered list stored in non-contiguous memory, so the ordering changes randomly and without warning.

@Shalvenay I do web coding in C# and Javascript, currently rebulding a 14-year-old cluster-f of Java and obsolete frameworks. It's glorious.

Shalvenay

probably a lot more glorious than having to chase a six-hour time offset through a distributed system written by people who were hired for their domain knowledge, not their programming abilities

nitsua60

@Karelzarath new contender for stupidest thought: "oh, he didn't correct his typo in 'cluster of Java'" ^^

Karelzarath

1:33 AM

@nitsua60 ha!

Time to head home. o/

nitsua60

\o

hrmm... we're starting to get a list

The "oh, and..." answers are popping up. Recourse?

Miniman

[shrug] close votes, downvotes.

Honestly, as soon as he said "material from pretty much anywhere" this outcome was basically guaranteed.

nitsua60

1:50 AM

Yeah, I VtC'ed with a rambling comment =\

LegendaryDude

2:07 AM

@nitsua60 True. I understand the important difference between probabilistic and statistical analysis, I guess I just lump probability in with stats because they were both taught in the stats course I took in college.

nitsua60

Oh, sure. I was just remarking that an actual statistical analysis would be, IMO, pretty interesting to see.

(If something like Roll20 had a little bit more structure around combat, there might be stats to generate there, I suppose.)

Miniman

2:49 AM

Oh man, that's some awesome cheese.

BESW

@Miniman I prefer the gelatinous cube hack.

Miniman

@BESW Pray tell - I love learning about cheese, even if I never use it.

BESW

The 3.5 A&E has an amulet which conjures an anti-ooze force bubble around the wearer. Everything else can go through the bubble, but oozes can't.

So you use that and walk up to an ooze, which engulfs you.

Miniman

Wow, that's evil.

BESW

Then you can use vibrations from inside the ooze to fool its blindsense into thinking there's food in whatever direction you want it to go.

(This is the intended function of the amulet: to use oozes as "mounts.")

Shalvenay

2:54 AM

@BESW -- we had a version of this (in the physical form of a saddle, not an amulet) in our AD&D game, where the party's job was to transport a gelatinous cube on behalf of the constabulary

I wonder why it was changed to an amulet for 3.5e?

or is the cheese independent of the physical form of the item?

BESW

But wait, it gets better. Bring a sack of useful potions like flight and firebreathing, which you can throw into the ooze from inside it.

And remember that gelatinous cubes require a Spot check to see.

One of my campaigns had an army of dwarves use the kind of oozes that can melt stone, as siege-breakers.

And then there was the covert strike team that used flying oozes for infiltration.

"Look, up in the sky! It's... a bunch of line-dancing dwarfs. That's weird."

nitsua60

@Miniman That is pretty excellent!

BESW

I'm especially fond of the amulet of ooze-riding because it's one of the few times a mounted character becomes... effectively immune to attack.

Because you're inside the ooze, physical attacks have to target the ooze first.

Spell attacks only work if they don't need line of effect.

Depending on the ooze you choose (transparent/opaque) you can also use your mount to keep line of sight effects from targeting you (and fool enemies into thinking they're just being attacked by a bunch of oozes, so they don't expect tactics).

And if you go for a transparent ooze, then you're messing with attackers because they can see YOU but probably not the mount which they have to target before they can effectively target you.

nitsua60

3:09 AM

@BESW A number of 5e monsters that can swallow/engulf one also do damage to the inhabitant when damaged, themselves.

Perhaps this is all the amulet's fault?

BESW

Does the monster deal the damage, or is the damage from the attack directly?

[grin] Because the amulet prevents the ooze from injuring the rider.

nitsua60

The monster deals it.

Ahh...

It seems like the thinking is that when injured, the insides grip and twist you...

[rummages]

BESW

Of course, this is a 3.5 amulet, and oozes didn't have that feature.

@Miniman This is also awesome cheese.

nitsua60

Err... I may be imagining that. It's just that most swallowers do damage (usually bludgeoning or acid) at the beginning of every round.

@BESW "Help me R2, you're my only hope." -a wheat thin

BESW

So, yeah. Ooze-riders: Largely invulnerable, can choose mounts to do amusing things customised to the situation, and can boost their mounts with potions more easily than most other mounted riders can.

(You can give a horse a potion, but you can't make him drink it as a move action in the middle of combat.)

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nitsua60

3:16 AM

@BESW Like my father always said.

BESW

(And, since you're shut off from combat in the middle of an ooze, it's not like there's a bunch of other things vying for your actions each round.)

Although I just had a thought... ooze-riding bards.

"WHY IT THAT OOZE SINGING?"

nitsua60

@BESW How I wish you'd omitted that hyphen... =)

Miniman

@BESW Sadly, the oozes themselves don't benefit from the song :(

nitsua60

"WHY ARE THOSE BARDS CARRYING AN OOZE ON THEIR BACKS?"

BESW

@Miniman There are ways around that.

Miniman

3:21 AM

@BESW Are there? I know there's a feat to allow Bardic Music to affect undead, but is there really something similar for oozes?

BESW

I can't think of a specific thing off the top of my head, but I know at the very least there's some metamagic feats for similar effects.

And there's a feat which lets you spend bardic music to give aberrations morale bonuses. There's gotta be some ooze nonsense somewhere.

Miniman

Aw. I was hoping for something specific to oozes - I love the idea that some D&D writer was like "You know what people need? To be able to use Inspire Courage on their ooze allies."

BESW

I know there's at least two ooze-specific prestige classes.

It's more likely to be some way to get your mind-affecting effects to work on them.

Awaken Ooze and Ooze Puppet.

There's a Slime domain for clerics which lets them turn/rebuke oozes.

Thomas Ward

I know i'mma sound super ignorant here, but I see a lot of references to 'murderhobo' and such, anyone care to explain what that means, to someone not 100% fluent in the world of RPG gaming :p

nitsua60

@ThomasWard PC with no "home"--attachments to locations/NPCs--who go around killing sentient beings and taking their stuff.

Thomas Ward

3:25 AM

ah

nitsua60

Murderhoboism: rolling into town, talking to one person, deciding that whoever they named must be killed, doing so, then rolling on to the next town.

Possibly burning down some buildings along the way.

Thomas Ward

so basically, roaming and roving blood-thirsty "kill whomever in my path"-ism

BESW

Yup. Coupled with "attachments to the setting are just ways for the GM to manipulate me."

nitsua60

I think the "hobo" part is important, too: itinerant remorseless killers.

Someone who kills indiscriminately around their home is just your garden-variety serial killer. We aspire to more, at our tables.

Miniman

Yeah, if you're killing everything that people in a specific village want killed, you're basically the local exterminator.

True murderhobos go somewhere new, work out the location of the biggest monster with the biggest hoard, kill it, and move on.

Thomas Ward

3:29 AM

ah, I see.

that explains a lot heh

Though, my PC is now inexorably tied to an NPC that could fit the "murderhoboism" category. Until a lucky set of rolls happened lol.

BESW

It's the "logical extreme" conclusion of the idea that the point of the game is to use one's power to acquire more power, via killing things for XP and taking their stuff, and things like plot or setting investment just get in the way of that purpose.

nitsua60

Even if the "biggest monster" is, say, the merchant's guild. Find one piece of dirt on the pasha, charge in killing everyone along the way ("they're defending an evil tyrant!"), and take his most-portable stuff.

@ThomasWard Where'd you come across it?

Thomas Ward

@nitsua60 the NPC, or the term?

nitsua60

Sorry: the term.

Miniman

@nitsua60 In the world of D&D murderhoboism, being called a "pasha" rather than a "head merchant" or similar is probably all the dirt you need to justify killing your way through any guild.

BESW

3:33 AM

@nitsua60 Your murderhobos took the time to find a flimsy justification? Wow, that's restraint.

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nitsua60

@BESW lol

Thomas Ward

@nitsua60 the star wall and the occasional HNQ involving murderhobos.

(I was bored and was flipping through starred posts :P)

nitsua60

"Bored and Flipping" would be a good name for a pair of Cirque du Soleil applicants.

BESW

Aaaand apparently this is a thing:

Gelatinous Cube Monk (Fiendish)

Miniman

4:31 AM

@KorvinStarmast [blushes] Aw, shucks.

KorvinStarmast

Heh, credit where credit is due

Miniman

@KorvinStarmast On that subject, I meant to mention - your elvish origins question is a really good one.

KorvinStarmast

It's because I am so confused ...

Miniman

I wasn't...until I started looking it up.

KorvinStarmast

I get the impression that eladrin are the analogue to the Gray elves of AD&D 1e, the ones with purple eyes and all that.

Miniman

4:35 AM

But SCAG sort of implies that they came from somewhere else, without providing even the slightest crumb of info about where that might have been.

@KorvinStarmast Before my time.

KorvinStarmast

Yeah, SCAG got me wondering and as I looked around I realized I had no idea.

Then there were the "Valley of the Mage" elves from the World of Greyhawk setting, circa 1980-1981 who were ... kinda their own kind of elves. I think Tolkien created a monster with his old "sundering of the elves" things in LOTR/SIlmarillion

Miniman

It's a weird but generally useful thing that in any book that includes genealogy tables, the relationships are probably too difficult to understand.

CTWind

Warcraft feels the effects of that too.

KorvinStarmast

I guess people are flattering the hell out of Tolkien, since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery .. :P

Good night all, off to bed, work tomorrow. May you all make your saving throws!

Miniman

@KorvinStarmast Cya!

BESW

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Skyler

8:15 AM

earlier I saw you guys talking about paladins (yesterday I think) and banning them at tables for being too strong, can you elaborate on that a bit?

are paladins broken in 5e or something?

Miniman

It was a discussion about pathfinder paladins, and the user who thought they were too strong isn't currently around.

Skyler

oh ok

i just ask because I've played around with a more spellsword homebrew class and basically I was using the paladin as a reference point for how powerful they should be

Miniman

The Paladin in 5e is quite strong in certain ways - its ability to quickly convert all its resources into damage means that, for example, if you have a "boss fight", they can use up everything they have to kill it extremely quickly.

But overall, I consider it one of the best-designed classes.

Skyler

yea, I really like their design too

and exactly on that token

I was playing with making a far more stable damage inducing spellsword

they forgo some of the more major defensive bonuses of a paladin to be able to use evocation magic

Miniman

In particular, it's a good reference point to look at for a spellsword, because the Paladin's abilities synergize extremely well with each other.

That's a really important point in design, and it's one a lot of the other classes are sadly lacking.

And it's especially important for a "hybrid" (martial and magical) character.

Skyler

8:23 AM

and while being a half caster they get something akin to sorcerer points that they use to augment their damage to lesser extent but way more often

the paladins are really amazing tanks with nova damage when they need it

if they had really strong casting that would be too op

so you go to a slower burn model, a bit closer to a fighter in a few ways honestly, then stabilize damage, and you've toned down that enough I think to play around with a larger spell variety

btw, for as much as the paladin is well designed wth is up with the fighter?

Miniman

Depends. The Fighter as a whole is fine, but if you're asking about the Eldritch Knight...

Patta

I did not have a chance to test that one, sadly. Killed by bear :(

Skyler

honestly all three options are meh, the champion design I get, I run my guest characters as that since they are always running at 100%

but battle master manuevers are too weak or too few or something like that,

and yea, wtf is the eldtrich knight

@Miniman id be hard pressed to say that another class often isnt better suited for most things then a fighter, and that even as generalists they needed to be a bit better

for sure they all should have gotten something like that oath of vengence passive that lets you stalk enemies

Miniman

@Skyler Well, that's not really true. No-one else can make 5 attacks per round with a +15 static bonus to damage.

Skyler

@Miniman +15?

Miniman

8:32 AM

I mean, I'm not a huge fan of any of the subclasses, but the core chassis is still really powerful.

@Skyler +5 from Strength, +10 from Great Weapon Master.

Skyler

ooooooohhhhhhhhh

Miniman

5 attacks because of Polearm Master.

9 with Action Surge.

Skyler

polearm counts as that?

Miniman

Well, not the quarterstaff.

But yeah, the glaive and halberd both qualify.

Skyler

interesting, ok so they can def dish out damage as long as they wave around something big

I guess two weapon isnt really viable for them though by comparison

Miniman

8:38 AM

As much as I hate to say it, as a fighter, you pretty much have to have either GWM or sharpshooter going for you to keep up.

Skyler

or both

Patta

Yea, I tried a DEX fighter in the beginning. And while it might work for the first few levels, it looses it's strength quickly...

doppelgreener

9:17 AM

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BESW

10:16 AM

Happy Ayyám-i-Há!

Anaphory

And to you! Did you end up making any plans for that for tonight?

BESW

I'm not sure exactly who's showing up, so I'm leaving it open. I'm thinking we'll go out for custom pizzas before Geek Night starts up, and then do a fun game based on whoever's there.

trogdor

10:32 AM

@Anaphory if you mean Geek Night itself, that isn't till tomorrow night

Anaphory

Ah, yes, you have just had midnight, haven't you?

trogdor

just now? no

still a few hours for that

Anaphory

10:49 AM

Okay, I got confused. I assumed @BESW wishing a happy Ayyam-i-Ha was because you had the 25th already, and thus Geek Night would be during your “today”.

BESW

It's ten to 8 pm on Friday the 24th, but Baha'i days start at sunset.

Anaphory

Ah! That makes sense.

I think I knew, but it wasn't on my mind.

Is that physical sunset or some kind of normalized sunset to account for arctic people?

trogdor

I would assume it is still based on where you are

BESW

Physical sunset except when you're so close to the poles that'd be ridiculous.

Then you use clocks.

Anne Aunyme

11:22 AM

what are Baha'i ?

a country?

Patta

At least I am not the only clueless one here :D

BESW

The Bahá'í Faith is a religion.

Patta

11:55 AM

Ahh, alright, thank you!

kviiri

Hiya!

One of my neighbors is actually a Baha'i from Iraq. A real nice fellow, and had some interesting stories from his days of living there. Not all of the stories were nice, of course.

BESW

12:12 PM

@kviiri Cool.

Also hi.

doppelgreener

12:36 PM

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@BESW I am very happy this blog exists

BESW

@doppelgreener Yey!

Do you know if you might be with us tomorrow?

doppelgreener

@BESW I should be! Last weekend I slept for too long because I deprived myself of sleep too many times in a row, but that hasn't been happening this week.

eimyr

@BESW What are you palying tomorrow?

BESW

@eimyr If it's just Greener and Troggy and I, Bubblegumshoe. If you join, not Bubblegumshoe.

eimyr

12:52 PM

@BESW Right. what time do you start again?

BESW

7 or 8pm UTC+10

eimyr

sounds like 9 am my time

doppelgreener

it is 9am UTC+0

tends to go until at least midday

eimyr

Would I be a welcome variation or a tolerable disruption?

As in, is the game choice still interesting with my presence?

doppelgreener

If you're around I'm not sure what we'll be playing, but it's not like it's going to be a problem

We have plans along the lines of "next night it is just {specific people} we'll try out {game specific people were exclusively interested or involved in}"

eimyr

12:58 PM

Cool, I'll se whether I can amke it and if so, drop you a line

doppelgreener

it's like how if you dropped around to board game club and there were 4 people, we'd pick a 4-person game; if there were 5 people, we'd pick a 5-person game

(or game appropriate for that many people in any case)

eimyr

Sure.

Any suggestions on what could be played?

doppelgreener

We've got a list of games we'd like to try or return to.

BESW

[rummages for list]

Stuff we'd probably be able to run on very short notice... Damnit Roger!; Fate of the TMNT; Fragment; A Penny for My Thoughts; Danger Patrol; Roll For Shoes; Great Ork Gods; Lasers & Feelings; Lady Blackbird; Morts...
Stuff that'd work if we don't dawdle with chargen... Knights of Invasion; Secrets of Cats; Masters of Umdaar...

Am I missing anything?

Oh, Aeon Wave.

eimyr

1:20 PM

I don't know many of these, but I'm willing to try almost any.

do you think DED could be on the list?:

doppelgreener

What's DED?

eimyr

Dog Eat Dog

No explanation is necessary if people are reluctant.

BESW

I don't think I have the emotional fortitude for DED right now.

eimyr

very well

BESW

And it's Ayyam-i-Ha, so it'd be nice to do something light.

Surgadores, if you guys have crayons.

eimyr

1:24 PM

Alien Fable, if you guys have patience

BESW

....I could dig up Hounds of God.

doppelgreener

@eimyr Is that a TTRPG? (I can't turn it up in google)

BESW

We could translate our old playtest PCs into the new DFAE system and Eimyr could make one of his own.

I could go to sleep now.

doppelgreener

@BESW Go to sleep if you need to. :D

It is pretty dang late there

eimyr

1:52 PM

@doppelgreener it's my game, you won't find it in Google (yet)

Anne Aunyme

2:10 PM

@BESW Interesting. never heard of it before.

nitsua60

3:45 PM

@BESW What a remarkably sensible religion =)

GreySage

6:10 PM

this is a really cool game mechanic, in-game effects created by out-of-game causes.

LegendaryDude

6:34 PM

@GreySage It is! I'm trying to think of other examples but all I can think of are the old Unglued/Unhinged MTG sets.

GreySage

@LegendaryDude A few sessions of a campaign I played in took place in a zombie-horror-esque situation. There was a magical disease in the air which turned everyone in rage-monsters. Every 20 minutes the DM had us roll some saves, and if we failed we got 1 step closer to full infection

It was very different, because normally our group was very deliberate and talked things through a lot, but after the first couple saves we just started sprinting through our decisions as fast as possible

It created a cool sense of urgency

LegendaryDude

6:57 PM

@GreySage That is cool, a good way to keep players' attention

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7:50 PM

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