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5:05 PM
in any place like that with significant moral differences there's going to be a lot of factions that pop up
especially when differences are settled through combat, you'd expect to see factions send in their champions when they're in conflict
or, you know, break the rules of the world and have someone die or take the law into their own hands
that creates a mystery in and of itself of who did it and how
 
I was just thinking on that sort of plotline. The kind of 'No ones died in an arena combat in years/ever..... and someone, or both combatants, end up dying.' sort of thing. Creates not only intrigue/mystery, but potential faction related struggle.
 
i'd recommend reading about the ghostwalk campaign setting for 3e
your city sounds a bit similar to manifest
 
make sure you're directing your comments to @Aaron , as it's not MY setting we're discussing
 
@Aaron read ghostwalk
 
my setting is very High Fantasy, a mysterious sorcerer calling himself the Warlord has taken control of a black obelisk, an Artifact of Mana called the Jet Tower; granting him phenomenal necromancy powers. His armies of undead have already destroyed a few key cities and capitals of the known world. His threat is already established and well under way
 
5:14 PM
what's the warlord's motivation?
 
just ask me for all my secrets....that's fine :P
 
hahaha
 
The 'Warlord' , unknown to the current players, belongs to a race of beings that aren't unlike the Eladrin race of Elves from Wizards of the Coast; but more magically inclined
low constitution, pale, not very physically strong; they make up for it with incredible magical potential
this particular character was born lacking that potential. Making him not only physically weak, but magically weak as well....almost useless
Vastly intelligent and calculating however. He found himself providing his talents as a strategist to an Order that helped keep balance in the land. They had access to knowledge of artifacts and other potentially dangerous spells and items, so they could police their whereabouts.
our under appreciated Strategist finds a book with forbidden magics in it and decides that's how he'll gain the power he never had, what he believes to be the birthright of his race. From there he obtains the knowledge on how to locate and activate the Jet Tower
and it goes downhill from there
 
in my setting the world is exploding and the only thing holding it back is a line of wizard's towers around the north end of the world. the "explosion" is also a portal to the plane of law through which aberrations are streaming through trying to muck up the wizard towers and society in general to cause the world to blow up
it gives me a lot of freedom with where to take adventures because the explosion affects everything, and a bunch of ancient evils are starting to come back while everyone is distracted by it
the aberrations want the world to explode so that they can transfer the magic energy into their patron dragon who's trapped in the center of the plane of law
and he's trapped there because he tried to kill time itself, so him getting out is a bad thing
 
5:31 PM
Kill time you say? Yea that's bad....
 
@DavidReeve A book or a setting?
 
We're talking about campaign settings
 
5:51 PM
@DavidReeve Neat. Also, it's interesting how that's exactly what Chaos is about in Glorantha (turning back the Great Mistake of starting time up), but in your setting it totally makes sense for it to be Order (law) striving for that.
(Maybe it's only that Chaos is just misunderstood and misnamed in Glorantha. But that kind of doubt is par for that setting...)
 
@Aaron ghostwalk is a book/setting, the explosion thing is my campaign
 
Huh. So pretty format and accurate wins out over accurate. Good to know.
 
pretty formatting is ez rep
 
^
 
@DavidReeve I came in 10 mins after first upvoted answer', added the blurb from the PHB with formatting and boom. Instant upvote and accepted.
Although it appears @Airatome stole my accepted answer rep :( Sad panda.
::snerk:: :)
 
6:17 PM
@JohnP Clarity and ease of absorbing the information is necessary before accuracy is recognised, so formatting often makes the difference.
 
6:44 PM
@johnp good 5e answer
 
7:05 PM
@JohnP Sorry had customers....what did I steal O.o?
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith Thanks.
 
@Airatome Heh. Our instant/triggered action sequence answers. He took the accepted from mine and put it on yours. :p
 
Hamster, Giant Space
 
And I must say, Cindy Lou Who grew up naughty and I like it.
 
7:06 PM
Awww ....that can happen?
 
yep
 
@Airatome All the time.
 
you can reverse almost anything on SE
 
@DavidReeve Some things only once or twice or after an edit though.
 
I see.... I would say my bad but....I'd be lying :P
I'm liking the 16 upvotes on my Daylight = Sunlight? question
 
7:08 PM
Nah, it's all good. Both good answers.
 
or the answer to it, rather
 
no the proper response to "you stole my accepted answer" would be
owned wrecked destroyed
 
I'm just happy to be inching closer to the vote mark.
 
1 rep at a time
 
@DavidReeve owned pwned wrecked destroyed.
Fixed that for you.
 
7:28 PM
Guys guys! Two words that can solve all our Rep problems..... "Time-Share"
I have a question I don't think anyone can help me with......
My fiance and I are having our date night at an arcade type place..... she's going to make me play DDR with her...what do I do????
 
play ddr
 
ddr?
 
dance dance revolution
 
@Airatome Play DDR badly, and laugh about it.
 
dance dance revolution
Go for cheesy on purpose
 
7:32 PM
she doesn't want you to play ddr well, she just wants to play ddr and spend time with you
 
@Airatome be silly/flirty about it if you know you are a bad dancer
 
@DavidReeve Yes, this. And enjoy sharing something she's good at.
 
I haven't jammed on some DDR in far too long....
 
*bad DDR player
 
Do the chainsaw! XD
 
7:34 PM
if she wanted to play dota that would be something to be concerned about, but ddr is child's play
 
you know how to do the Chainsaw?
 
@Airatome You go out, buy DDR for the xbox, practice for 10 hours then absolutely wipe the floor with her.
 
@Aaron Pics or it didn't happen.....
 
@Airatome I don't have a camera.
Not on me at least
 
.... Lies
 
7:34 PM
I do at home
On my phone
My wife has the phone when I am at work.
 
I'll let it pass because I'm not sure the Chainsaw is something you can take a picture of yourself doing....
 
@Airatome I might be able to prop the camera on something
Don't forget the sprinkler!
Or the um.
I don't know the name.
 
What are some favorite DDR songs? o.O
 
You grab your leg and put your hand behind your head
@Airatome I have never done DDR I just goof off doing these dance moves during parties with friends.
 
there's so many versions of ddr
 
7:37 PM
that was a generic question about songs :)
 
Normally only if I am drunk. Which is very rare.
 
lol
 
@Airatome Idk. I don't know many ddr songs either.
 
i remember we used to play a lot of BOOM BOOM BOOM
 
I think I have heard a few on grooveshark but I didn't like a lot of them.
 
7:37 PM
I remember that one
 
no idea why we were obsessed with that song haha
 
and some Captain Jack ones
 
yessss
 
and I remember something about a butterfly
o.O
 
one of the kids i knew would do double mat captain jack
 
7:38 PM
You can find a lot of DDR songs if you look up Konami on grooveshark.
 
that's hardcore....double mat hm?
 
yeah
some versions of ddr had a mode where you played 1 player on 2 mats
 
That's aight..... I can shred some Rock Band 3 Pro Mode on some Disturbed songs
that's about the best accomplishments I have..... also...I had no idea guitar cords were just like piano cords....
 
Sweet.
Just found some old Castlevainia symphony of the night music
Loved that music
 
Sotn Yes!
 
7:41 PM
Love the game as well.
 
Alucard was a pimp
 
I bought it on ps3
I think it is on steam as well
 
I saw Mega Man X3 and X4 show up on the PSN...... I had no choice.....
 
Alucard was a bad ass.
The music was always amazing in the game as well.
I never did beat it 100%
 
Funny you bring up Sotn/Alucard . Me and my coworker (he plays a sorcerer in the campaign I also play in), were discussing Gaseous Form and he asked me what it was like. I was like; you know Alucard's Mist Form? Just like that.
he understand completely
 
7:43 PM
I beat the reverse castle but never beat the other forms.
 
understood*
 
Lol
Is there a poisonous gaseous form in dnd or pathfinder?
 
um....not through normal means
 
Hmm
 
I am SURE someone, somewhere, has found a way to combine Mist Spray with Gaseous Form to make some sort of poisonous mistform conconction
 
7:45 PM
i'm sure a vampire could somehow transform into a cloudkill or something
 
er Poison Spray
 
I remember the chakram weapons in SOTN. I beat Richter with them (before I knew abou the reverse castle) without taking damage.
Had him pinned in the corner constantly taking damage.
The other Castlevainia game I loved was curse of darkness.
I liked the pet system a lot more than other games.
familiars I guess not pets.
 
@aaron check out chasm
it was kickstarted and will release on steam this year
indie metroid vania
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith Looks cool.
Never actually played any of the metroid games.
 
quite good if you like exploration and collecting powerups and whatnot
 
7:51 PM
Is it early access or a completed game?
I wish games had as good music as they used to.
Like music used to be the for front of all games but now they are so dialog heavy the music is shoved to the background.
 
We didn't have soundtracks back in the day......so when I wanted to listen to One Winged Angel during the final Sepiroth Fight in Final Fantasy VII , I had to cast a spell and pop the Playstation open so it wouldn't load past the spell, but the music would keep playing
that song was so damn long....but epic
Front Mission III had great music as well. FFTactics. Xenogears. Breath of Fire III ....they don't make them like they used to :/
 
8:09 PM
uh fire emblem series?
valkyria chronicles?
 
Fire Emblem.....forgot about those.
I started playing Fire Emblem when they stopped releasing Vandal Hearts games...
Vandal Hearts......Vanguard Bandits.......Lunar Silver Star Story? Anyone?
Does someone remember Phantasy Star at least?
or I could go WAY back to Shining Force .....
 
8:29 PM
Shameless promotion of the kickstarter I like. Edge of Eternity
I am impressed. Two people have donated 5k and one person made a 10k donation.
 
lol the still image for the video
so final fantasy
 
It is
It is very final fantasy 13isk.
I am thinking of dropping 65 on it to get the early bird pack
 
 
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10:06 PM
let's hope this question goes over well
sometime I'm not so sure if I give redundant information or are too long winded when I feel there's so much relevant information :/
 
10:47 PM
5e "Wall of Fire" uses the verbiage "...within its area..." and "...inside the wall...". Do either of those mean "occupies the same square/hex" or do they both literally mean inside the 1 foot thick wall?
 
@DavidWilkins I am pretty sure, as I've just read the same entry yesterday, that it means Occupies the same square/hex as the wall when it's summoned or when a creature tries to enter/moves through the square in question
I'll grab some particular quotes if required.
"...When the wall appears, each creature Within it's area must make...."
 
Thats how I was reading it too.
 
"...the creature takes the same damage when it enters the wall or ends it's turn there...."
it's not a wall of stone.....a wall of fire CAN be walked through.....it also says specifically that the Wall of Fire is opaque
someone not paying attention, or forced through the wall as with a shove or bash or other objects that move a creature backwards, could all result in a creature walking into or ending it's turn in the same space taken up by the Wall of Fire
Hope that helps? :)
 
It does, thanks
 
Of course
you'll notice a lot of spells have similar wording. Like Guardian Spirits.....apply the same logic to those
Spirit Guardians rather....
Actually..... that brings up a question about the 5ESpirit Guardians
 
10:58 PM
@Airatome jess?
 
*"....You call forth Spirits to protect you. They flit around you to a distance of 15ft for the duration. Any creature in the area...." So....is the entire 15ft radius around the character who cast the spell effected by angry spirits? Or JUST a circle that's 15ft out from the caster?
 
They are the same thing.
 
I would say radius
 
If you have a circle 15 feet out from the caster, that's the same as a 15 ft radius.
If you have a 15 foot circle period, THEN you have a radius of 7.5 ft.
 
well no....I'm not phrasing it the same, or trying to at least. What I mean is what if it's saying the spirits are flying in a circle 15ft AWAY from the caster....just a circle that takes up 5ft.
 
11:02 PM
>They flit around you to a distance of 15 feet for the duration
 
not every 5ft the spirits fly through AND all the spaces in between me and the spirits
 
So "To a distance" means up to 15 feet away from a point.
 
and all points in between?
 
Yes.
An affected creature’s speed is halved in the area, and when the creature enters the area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there, it must make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature takes 3d8 radiant damage (if you are good or neutral) or 3d8 necrotic damage (if you are evil). On a successful save, the creature takes half as much damage.
 
It just says "to a distance of" so yeah I would say 30ft sphere centered on the caster
 
11:03 PM
it's just.....they went out of their way to use different terminology. In EVERY other spell, like Fireball, Aura of Protection, so on and so forth, they say Radius or Aura of a certain number of feet
not, out to a distance of
I chalked that up to other inconclusive mistypes though like Destructive Smite turning into Destructive Wave
 
I read it as they circle you 15 feet out from you, or a 30 ft circle, and the encircled area is affected for damage/saves.
 
Chick new york-O-logist said: Vatican has sent 3 senior Holly fathers to Battery Park to combat recent excessive Supernatural activities.
 
among a few other things
 
@Airatome - You could post that as a question, I can post an answer and we can rep up ::snerk:: :)
 
@JohnP that was my interpretation
15ft circle though
or....oh I see
 
11:05 PM
Its like they tried to make the mechanics text less crunchy
 
30 foot circle. 15 foot radius.
 
15 feet out to each side would be 30ft circle
 
yes.
 
gotcha
@DavidWilkins Yea but in doing so they confused the hell out of me
 
Ya, me too
 
11:06 PM
makes me think of ioun stones and how clunky that circling the head mechanic really is.
 
I read that too....
when I was crafting magical items for my party to find at various intervals
 
@Airatome - Oh, duh. It even says it in the spell description.
Range: Self (15-foot radius)
 
things are going to be interesting when they find that sentient Druid protecting quarterstaff
Oh...duh....FML -_-;
so then the description was more flavor text lol
 
seems like it, yeah.
So...do I spend $400 on the 2 gig, 64meg SSD Asus, or do I drop $750 on the Dell Venue?
 
a few other random tidbits.......when concentrating on a Paladin Smite spell (Or any other spell that takes concentration) casting a spell that instantly takes effect doesn't break concentration?
right off the bat? I'd always pick Dell over Asus.....
 
11:09 PM
Correct @Airatome
 
but an extra 350? I dunno.....
well then, my range of abilities just increased by a hairline margin
 
@Airatome Yeah, it's basically an overqualified e-reader that I can occasionally watch a movie on and tote along so I can remote into work if need be when I'm covering on call.
 
I do hate having to concentrate on those Smites......but I understand why that's there after playing a few games with them
 
But the display on the dell is so pretty.......................
 
I know!!!
lol
 
11:10 PM
Helloes
 
but....in hindsight.....
what's stopping you from picking up a new just as nice monitor to plug in to your Asus?
for cheaper
@npst Ohai ^_^
 
I have several laptops with monitors for home/work. As I said, glorified e-reader that has VPN capability.
@npst ohai!
bbl
 
Oh....I see....then Asus I suppose
Second tidbit
I read that if you Twin Spell through use of Sorcery Points a spell that requires Concentration to maintain, you are effectively concentrating on the SAME instance of a single spell...it just happens to have a clone, which doesn't break the rule of not being able to concentrate on more than 1 spell at a time?
o.o
 
Mind if I charge in with an RPG related question?
 
I believe that's correct also
 
11:14 PM
Ah, Airatome just did
 
not at all.....go for it :)
 
Its what we're here for :)
 
that's what this place is kind of for.....though I believe they prefer if you ask your question on the open forums to allow others a chance to answer publiclly
I'm just asking redundant questions that already have a question and relevant answers somewhere
 
The Dark Eye tag is a little underused in this SE. Does this reflect the knowledge about this game system?
 
If the computer stuff wants to continue, it can go to the Not A Bar.
 
11:15 PM
but.....it's not a bar....
 
I was hoping to clear up some stuff about costs of skills and hoped there was someone around who played The Dark Eye before
 
@Airatome be mindful of describing the site as a forum. It definitely is not a forum
 
oops. What DO I call this place, exactly, on that note.
 
A q&a site
 
<<< is obviously new here :/
Right then.
 
11:17 PM
@npst Give it a shot and ask! Stack Exchange sites have a close relationship with Google, so the Dark Eye experts will be able to find your question even if they aren't here yet.
The best way to get more experts on a system is to ask good questions.
@DavidWilkins Well. Pedantically, it is a forum. What the Stack Exchange isn't is a traditional Internet forum.
 
Well, I was looking to find help here in chat, since members of my group are quite possibly following this SE
 
why is that problematic?
 
So raise your hands, DarkEye-non-virgins
 
Since "traditional Internet forum" is what we usually mean by "forum" when we use the word on the Internet, the "SE is not a forum" rote is useful but not really accurate.
 
sorry that was @npst
 
11:20 PM
@BESW you stop using you literal definitios right now!
 
why the potential that part of his/her group is following the SE , is problematic
 
There's nothing crazy going on, Airatome. I just don't want to be seen as some rule hugging butsomeonesaidso. It's easier to solve a matter of different opinion in private without misconceptions
(that sentence doesn't make sense, does it?)
 
Ah...so it's a matter of conflict of interest
I see
 
It might be, depending on the answer i get ;)
 
makes perfect sense.....I'm used to translating rambling :P
 
11:22 PM
Let's see... [trawls chat for Dark Eye references]
 
Basically we're all new to the system with a GM that has played but never GMed before
 
So what is your question precisely?
what skills were you curious about the cost of?
 
Basically: If we're playing without the "optional" Endurance... Do special skills still have an extra cost/delay, something that hinders a fighter from using them every action?
 
@Murch and @Anaphory may be able to help with your Dark Eye questions.
 
I'll look up the english names, just a sec
 
11:25 PM
Also: Since good Stack Exchange answers back up their statements with citation and reasoning, any answer you get won't be "Because someone said so," but "Because this line of reasoning seems cogent."
 
my google fu seems to fail me
the skill I'm talking about might be called "Masters Parade"
 
I can't find anything myself other than combing through what translation of the rule book I could find doesn't mention Skills costing anything
only Astral points if you're casting 'magic'
or whatever that games equivilant to magic is
 
I have the most related German rule books here, but can't find anything myself. But I also didn't read those mere 2000 pages.
 
Alright I have an english PDF in front of me
combing through it now
give me as much relevant information as you can
 
Basically I can't find ANY mention of "named-attacks" (i called them skills before) having a restriction
 
11:31 PM
what class are you?
is it a class ability? etc
 
give me a second
 
Sure
 
look at the guardsmen. they should have something along the lines of "master parrying" in their skills
 
Sure thing
 
it's one of the most basic skills there is
*more
not most
 
11:35 PM
You mentioned Vitality Points?
 
Depending on what the translation is :D
There's a concept of Ausdauer (lit: Endurance) that is alw<ys marked as "optional" in the books
Our GM decided to go without that
And went on to only allow that Parry skill every third combat round
(becasue there would have been costs when played with endurance)
 
Yea I'm reading about that now
Vitality Points and Endurance Points
 
Vitality Points might be the Life-Force? basically HP?
 
And Astral Energy
Yes. Endurance is the other
 
AE can be ignored for now
so can be VP
 
11:39 PM
stamina
how much longer they can continue to do strenuous activity
 
hmm.. does that say something about combat?
 
It does
It also mentions TP (Talent Prowess)
or...rather...how good you are at doing certain things?
 
a dictionary would make this so much easier
 
Here's what it says particularly about Parry
AT and PA (Attack Value and Parry Value)
it says those are normal means of combat. An attacker rolls against your parry, if your parry is higher, you deflect the blow, if your parry is lower, then you are hit and your AR (Armor Rating) is deducted from the damage first, whatever is left over is taking from your life points or HP
with me so far?
 
sure
i was aiming towards the special attacks, special parrying
 
11:44 PM
Ah I see
A certain kind of parrying only you/your class can do?
I'm just going along....might be getting to that
 
Basically anything "some" class can only do is the right catergory.
there might also be some thing like "heavy strike" or "power strike". that's basically the attack version of "Meisterparade" (wich is defense)
 
I think I found it
I think in my version they have it listed as a 'Talent'
I'm looking at two Tables
 
ah, good to know
 
one is for Spell casting. It tells you what the activation cost (In Astral Points) are for each rank/level of spell
 
it's not a magic talent
 
11:50 PM
the other table is the same, but for TP (Talent Points)
 
ah, wait.
are these in the region of 100-300?
those might be the activation costs to be able to learn those things, not to use them
 
hmm
what class did you say again?
 
i' playing a human guardsman. there are specialisations of those
like nightwatch, street-walking-guy etc
 
I've got Warrior, Scout, Pirate, Magician.....
 
too bad I can't make this a proper question yet for you to answer for all that work
 
11:55 PM
Physician
 
ah, you might be looking at the basic rules. let me look which one does have that talent of those
 
I am yes :/
 
@BESW I mostly played the third edition only. I stopped playing The Dark Eye in 2004 or so, when I moved to another city.
 
[gestures upward] Maybe you can help with translation or something?
 
I played third edition from 1995 to 2004 or so, though. ;)
@npst Raise hand.
 
11:58 PM
ah
hi )
I assume the "warrior" class should be able to do this, Airatome
are you familiar with both german and english names for at least some of the talents, murch?
 
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