Root Access

Bob

12:00 PM

I forgot to click mobile :P

Journeyman Geek

happened to me too

Bob

here we go
why does enter create a new line
D:

Journeyman Geek

mobile UI weirdness. You need to tap on send on a cellphone.

Bob

bug in SE chat? :P

ah, I remember getting frustrated with this on my phone

Journeyman Geek

I suspect its intentional

Bob

12:05 PM

enter on the phone keyboard wouldn't send

Journeyman Geek

TO MSO MY BIRDIES!

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Q: Could we have enter submit a line in chat, rather than start a new line?

I've got SE chat set up in a docked window in mobile mode in windows 8, and use it fairly regularly on an android phone. In both cases, hitting the enter key starts a new line. It would make sense to have it submit the line (so you didn't have to hide your on screen keyboard every line), and have...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek probably by tomorrow you'll have a 2/3 chance of a tablet :P

@GrahamWager is getting very close

Journeyman Geek

ya

Even if I don't win, I did it in style, no? ;p

Bob

12:26 PM

lol

yup

if you don't get the Surface, you should get a consolation prize for being first :P

jokerdino

He claimed he is only in it for the T-shirt and ends up reaching lvl 4 first.

Bob

xD

caught the first swarm of 25-vote-tile-voters

and the widely applicable questions

Graham Wager

Closer by the hour ;) lol

jokerdino

All I have to do is vote 25 times and get a chance to win something? I'm sold.

Graham Wager

it'll actually be nice to relax a little after hitting level 4! though i'm pretty sold on staying around :)

Journeyman Geek

12:32 PM

@Bob: and that the first batch of questions happened to be at a time when I had just gotten my windows 8 box up and was poking around with it

besides, nhinkle and studiohack hit level 2 first ;p

Bob

one upvote on the right posts away from L2 :P

funny thing is, the majority of this happens overnight for me

so I'll probably come back tomorrow and be halfway to L3 or something :\

jokerdino

Yay!

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: this comic explains about 25% of why i got to level 4

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

Bob

xD

jokerdino

It never gets old :P

Bob

12:37 PM

well, that was fast o.O

thanks to whoever (if they are in here)

jokerdino

I am hiding.

Tom Wijsman

@Bob Same here, didn't happen overnight, so guess I'll stare into the windows-8 for another day...

jokerdino

And your profile is heavily cached coz of my proxy here.

Bob

... There's an Aww! chatroom? :S

jokerdino

I am saying I didn't do anything :P

Journeyman Geek

12:43 PM

ya ;p

jokerdino

@Bob There's also anti-Aww or something.

Graham Wager

1:27 PM

96% :D

Journeyman Geek

100% ;p

Ravi

hi, can any one clarify me what is the difference between RTM V/s Retail release. i feel all are same, is there i am missing

Journeyman Geek

@Ravi: they're pretty much the same

RTM = release to manufacturing

Graham Wager

@JourneymanGeek Woohoo! Thank you! And then there were 3 :)

Journeyman Geek

though this version of windows dosen't have a 'retail' release. It has a system builder licence (which effectively is retail) and it has upgrade

@GrahamWager: XD. question/answer interested me

may take a while to update tho

Graham Wager

1:31 PM

yeah, seems to update every 5 mins or so

avirk

Ravi

@JourneymanGeek yup. i have dreamspark account, if i download the MSDN build , will it be the same

Graham Wager

not that I've been staring at it too much...

Journeyman Geek

On one hand, I'm printing a chapter of a textbook they chose to release online.

avirk

@JourneymanGeek what is that with my rep?

Journeyman Geek

1:32 PM

@Ravi: I believe so

@avirk: someone undid an upvote

presumably after an edit

Happens shrug

avirk

@JourneymanGeek -5 for that?

not -10?

Journeyman Geek

well think of it as an un +5

nope

Ravi

@JourneymanGeek so u think, if i download the MSDN release, will be the same as retail ;)

jokerdino

They removed an upvote on a question.

Journeyman Geek

question upvotes are 5 rep

@Ravi: ya

avirk

1:33 PM

@jokerdino its on answer.

jokerdino

o.O

Journeyman Geek

MSDN builds are identical to retail from what i've seen

that is off then

go ask on MSU, might even be a case for MSO

avirk

@JourneymanGeek may be its due to the rep cap I think. when I posted that answer I had hit the rep cap :P

Journeyman Geek

ugh

It gets too complex then ;p

Ravi

@JourneymanGeek is there any source to verify , i dont want to waste my bandwidth :P

avirk

1:34 PM

@JourneymanGeek that's for me ?

Journeyman Geek

@Ravi: from experience its always been retail

@avirk: yes

avirk

@JourneymanGeek so still I have to go to MSU or MSO?

Journeyman Geek

I'm running on a copy I installed from MSDNAA in 2007, and its worked identically to retail so far ;p

Ravi

then... here i go with "Metro"...

Journeyman Geek

@avirk: if you want to bother

@Ravi: Its modern UI now

I got fed up and started calling it MUI

avirk

1:36 PM

@JourneymanGeek na, I don't want to as I have an expert like you here :)

Ravi

@JourneymanGeek yup :) ha ha :)

Graham Wager

call it TIFKAM

Journeyman Geek

@avirk: I really don't care about my overall rep at this point, or ever ;p

Its all about the questions / answers

avirk

@JourneymanGeek I don't care for that too, but I want to know why an unupvote result as-5 not -10?

Journeyman Geek

then you need to ask MSU or MSO ;p

avirk

1:38 PM

@JourneymanGeek btw give an easter egg Q for hit the 15 votes :P

Journeyman Geek

nope

If I see a question/answer of yours I like, I'll upvote it.

Like I do for anything else

avirk

@JourneymanGeek what is secret behind to hit the most upvotes.

Journeyman Geek

Clean living and spring water...

oh wait, thats longivity

@avirk: post kickass answers.

avirk

@JourneymanGeek hahahahah I tried many times but never get them :)

Tom Wijsman

Hmm, seems easy to get +5 votes with the extra traffic from the SE blog.

Journeyman Geek

1:42 PM

Seriously do your research, back up your answers with links (Not rely on them). Make answers clear (Hence my love of screenshots), make sure your language is clear and simple

avirk

However I'm hitting the rep cap continue since last 3 days :)

Journeyman Geek

and never ask for votes. Your answers should speak for themselves ;)

Graham Wager

@avirk and ask the stupid questions that people are afraid to ask, that was my secret

avirk

@JourneymanGeek that's true :P

@GrahamWager you are right too here :P

Tom Wijsman

Yeah, @JourneymanGeek, I don't really matter because it's yet another two weeks so that random vote will surely land on a question that managed to reach +7 (or +14).

Journeyman Geek

1:44 PM

@TomWijsman: oh, the occational hint is fine.

but if you're constantly asking.. well

Tom Wijsman

Once per level, and it's not even "asking"... xD

Journeyman Geek

Oh, and a great memory for uselss facts.

@TomWijsman: Mentioning you've almost hit is ... probably cricket

Tom Wijsman

True, we're all so frustrated! And we just started week 2, so almost 14 more days...

Journeyman Geek

lol

@TomWijsman: What, me, frustrated?

Bob

ok, time to test remote desktop

Tom Wijsman

1:47 PM

By that time everyone in Level 2 will be in Level 4. xD

Journeyman Geek

though, some more detailed stats would be nice

Bob

oh damn

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman: oh, gee, thanks ;p

Bob

Win8 is on DHCP

ugh

IP guessing time

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek: Now you should be frustrated as well. :D

Journeyman Geek

1:48 PM

/me wonders what's the question to upvote ratio, rep per question and other such useless facts

@TomWijsman: If nothing else. I am getting the damned T-Shirt

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Stack Exchange Data Explorer?

Journeyman Geek

I'm content with that

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek I actually don't want to win the keyboard or mouse.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: would need to be updated to current time, and such

Tom Wijsman

I'd even see myself donating them to someone...

Journeyman Geek

1:49 PM

@TomWijsman: I wouldn't say no to anything. I'd love to have the tablet, but hey, its down to the luck of the draw

Bob

Wait, how far does Stack Exchange Data Explorer lag?

Journeyman Geek

I was under the impression a few months

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek I'm secretly hoping we can get one through a demo / promotional model or an offer in the near future to get it cheaper.

Bob

Yay, RDP works

Wow, with MUI too

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman: I sorta don't see it in my budget anytime soon

Tom Wijsman

1:51 PM

@Bob: Select the date from the posts, order by it and select TOP 1 row.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: the metro RDP app?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek No, connecting to the Win8 computer

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, it costs way too much.

Journeyman Geek

(and if i bought a tablet, chances are it'd be an android)

Tom Wijsman

Reminds me, I have to order this cheap Raspberry Pi now.

Journeyman Geek

1:51 PM

@TomWijsman: I don't make very much at the moment

Bob

@TomWijsman Thanks, I'll go learn SQL now... again :P

every time I need to use Stack Exchange Data Explorer I relearn some SQL

Tom Wijsman

Money was on PayPal last night, I was almost scared it would wrap around to Monday.

Bob

then I forget it a few days later

Journeyman Geek

and the desktop will probably eat up most of it till january or feb

new gig MIGHT improve things, if it works out

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek Probably due to too much Super User.

HackToHell

1:53 PM

Will 30 gigs of space be good enough for 8 ?

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman: no, due to lack of degree, and working for my dad

Bob

@HackToHell sure

VirtualBox defaults to 25 GB for Win8

HackToHell

@Bob How long does it take to install ?

Bob

@HackToHell how are you installing?

HackToHell

Onto the HDD

not using vhd

Tom Wijsman

1:54 PM

@Bob SELECT TOP 1 LastActivityDate FROM Posts ORDER BY LastActivityDate DESC yields 2012-06-27 02:20:38

Bob

From a DVD?

HackToHell

Flash Drive

avirk

@HackToHell through USB on HDD typically 15 min

Bob

@TomWijsman Thanks. So, the last data dump.

So much for realtime stats :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

1:55 PM

The other option is to set up a scraper and tie it in to the RSS feed for windows-8

Tom Wijsman

Seems like 4 months behind.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: if SU had a search by date option...

Tom Wijsman

@Bob: What statistics are you looking for?

HackToHell

How user do you estimate will be at Level 2 when this competiton ends ?

Bob

8 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek

/me wonders what's the question to upvote ratio, rep per question and other such useless facts

Tom Wijsman

1:56 PM

@JourneymanGeek It has... api.stackexchange.com/docs/posts

Bob

@TomWijsman ooh, forgot about the API

that'll work nicely

well, now I have my overnight project :P

Journeyman Geek

;p

Tom Wijsman

Yeah, don't have time for it this weekend or I'd jump in.

Bob

@HackToHell Probably 40-50?

Journeyman Geek

hm

HackToHell

1:58 PM

@Bob That's bad :P

Journeyman Geek

superuser.com/users/166551/harish-shivaraman someone needs to give this chap a poke about accepting questions ._.

Bob

wow

HackToHell

Wait questions getting +3 are also accepted ?

Bob

@HackToHell yes, it says Q&A

Journeyman Geek

its one of the criteria

HackToHell

1:59 PM

wow indeed

Journeyman Geek

oh, wait, I did that already

Bob

Ouch. With the 'hurts my eyes' question closed, a whole bunch of people just lost a lot of high scoring posts

Journeyman Geek

lol

That was likely to have been closed

too subjective

Tom Wijsman

@Bob Which one?

Journeyman Geek

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Q: Looking at the screen in Windows 8 hurts my eyes

So I upgraded to Windows 8 on my laptop, and I noticed that it hurts my eyes when I look at the screen. I am not sure what it is, maybe the font/Cleartype but I cannot focus on looking at the screen for more than a few seconds before my eyes start to hurt and I get a headache. It seems that is ...

windows-8

Bob

2:01 PM

33

Q: Looking at the screen in Windows 8 hurts my eyes

So I upgraded to Windows 8 on my laptop, and I noticed that it hurts my eyes when I look at the screen. I am not sure what it is, maybe the font/Cleartype but I cannot focus on looking at the screen for more than a few seconds before my eyes start to hurt and I get a headache. It seems that is ...

windows-8

I'm slow.

Journeyman Geek

;p

I AM A LINKING NINJA!

Tom Wijsman

Ah, though the title would be different.

HackToHell

Why the hell did it get 33 upvotes !

Journeyman Geek

Also, I was just looking at that wondering if it was salvagable

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I had that tab open, too

gonna have to keep an eye on closed questions

there's a chance people might abuse that

as with downvotes

Tom Wijsman

2:03 PM

Yeah, it's one of those typical "medical" problem combined with "tons of suggestions".

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: one reason I went for a few more than the minimal 15 I needed

HackToHell

And disk management hangs while shrinking a partition sigh

Bob

high scoring posts are such a rarity for me I'd be lucky to get 10 :P

HackToHell

I am panicking !

Journeyman Geek

and ya, I got a few downvotes. Amusingly one on an older question thats NOT eligible for the contest

Bob

2:03 PM

@HackToHell don't touch it

do not close it

best way to corrupt a partition right there :\

HackToHell

stupid software, must have did it on linux

responds yay !

brb in win 8

Bob

generally, it's safer on Windows

lol

HackToHell

forgot to note down the key <___<

Journeyman Geek

this is possibly going to get closed, but I can never resist a keyboard question superuser.com/questions/493996/…

(and hey, someone has to ask, right? ;p)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek wow those were fast answers

Graham Wager

2:13 PM

once you've reached a level of the challenge, can it actually be taken away? Just asking because looking at this profile: superuser.com/users/163760/jared-tritsch Level 3 is still at 100% despite no longer reaching the requirements...

Bob

@GrahamWager check again in 15 mins to make sure, since that thing is a little slow updating...

Jared Tritsch

Geez guys.... How do you get screenshotted answers before I can even get my reflex answer in >.<

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek: Can't verify, but the button in the bottom right looks interesting.

Jared Tritsch

@grahamwager yeah I noticed that this morning, my biggest answer got closed.

Graham Wager

Hey @JaredTritsch :) sorry again about last night

Jared Tritsch

2:20 PM

Meh all good. I had to leave anyway. Work was over.

But yeah, I seem to still have tier 3 even though my unicorn question was closed... Idk why it was closed as not constructive, though. Seems like a legit question to me...

I got the nice answer badge for it too, and that wasn't taken awaywhenthe question was closed...

Bob

badges are never taken away

refer to MSO, there was a question there somewhere

avirk

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Q: How to add the WIndows defender(MS essential) in Windows explorer right click menu to scan a particular drive on demand?

As we have inbuilt antivirus like Windows defender in Windows 8 now, I called it antivirus because it has embedded option of MS essential as well. But there is no option to scan a particular drive on demand by right click on it in windows explore as we had in Windows 7 with MS essential or like o...

windows-explorer windows-8 windows-defender right-click-menu

Tom Wijsman

-2

A: Where can I download Windows 8 Release Preview?

Windows 8 release preview, 64 bit with key, here. Windows 8 release preview, 32 bit with key, here. Good luck.

Nuke from orbit!

Jared Tritsch

Why? It's a legit question. My answer is legit too.

Is formatted wrong and could use some editing, but a question as to where the .iso link went is a valid one.

@avirk my answer should help you.

Tom Wijsman

2:37 PM

@JaredTritsch: I was talking about this TPB answer.

Jared Tritsch

Ann okay. Yeah that one needs to die. As well as the one directing to toms hardware.

Now that its out, Microsoft wont activate any of those keys.

Tom Wijsman

@JaredTritsch: Why, it's not a torrent site that might be illegal and injected with third-party malware.

@JaredTritsch: You sure? Have you verified? These keys are still legal till January.

Jared Tritsch

CURRENT ACTIVATIONS are legal till January. But M$ isn't activating any new ones anymore.

Tom Wijsman

Silly M$ joke, but can you refer to where it reads that?

Jared Tritsch

No, just personal experience. I couldn't activate a RO license yesterday on a lab machine

avirk

2:42 PM

@JaredTritsch read carefully my question :)

Jared Tritsch

Had to burn an MSDN key

Tom Wijsman

@JaredTritsch Ah cool, well, yeah; let's let the OP figure that out, which is why there is the other part of my answer... ;)

I'll include a reference to you.

Jared Tritsch

Cool

Tom Wijsman

I usually go upvote the others once I get accepted, I feel like crap answering about 20 seconds later because I'm going for screenshots and what not.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Jared Tritsch

2:47 PM

Lol yeah, and when I'm on SO I'm usually either on my iPad or work pc s I can't go get screenshots.

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman: I find screenshotting is a good way to avoid being the fastest gun in the west

Jared Tritsch

SU*

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek: If it's just a few seconds, the OP doesn't notice who was first anyway, I think...

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: well SE in general

tho, i am not exactly sure how useful screenshots would be in coding...

Bob

I'm just plain slow; I can see a question and start planning an answer, then finish five minutes after everyone else

Journeyman Geek

2:48 PM

lol

dosen't matter!

Tom Wijsman

Oh, that question was windows-8-preview and not windows-8, lol.

Journeyman Geek

Unless its identical

Bob

@TomWijsman It had both tags

@JourneymanGeek Usually not :P

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman: I edited out the windows-8 tag

Tom Wijsman

starts to audit JG's edits j/k :P

Bob

2:50 PM

There was that (now closed) question about the different editions, by the time I finished typing the answer it had information that could all be found from the other guy's link

looks like I just went there to read and summarise (not that it's a bad thing!) :P

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman: I was careful about edits until I hit the tile

;p

Bob

is it weird that Nightly is more stable for me than Release?

(Firefox)

Journeyman Geek

ditto in general I edit more now that I have a gold badge and don't feel like i'm gaming the system

Bob

Ah, Microsoft Answers again: answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/…

Question asked: Swype

Answer by moderator: Skype

Tom Wijsman

What...

Belgium - Coming Soon

farnell.com/raspberrypi-consumer/approved-retailers.php

Journeyman Geek

2:57 PM

lol

I totally feel your pain

Tom Wijsman

abort mission, try alternative

Journeyman Geek

I'd suggest trying RS, but you'd get your raspberry pi in a year or so

(Jk, mine's 12 weeks + 3. Farnell is supposed to be 2)

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek: Well, the most annoying thing is that the moment I put my money on PayPal they still had Belgium working...

@JourneymanGeek Despatch expected in 5 week(s)

What did this say for you?

Well, 1 month + a few weeks is like almost Christmas, so it'd be a nice present for then. :D

Journeyman Geek

lol

12 weeks

Tom Wijsman

Nice thing though is that I can order a case and so, dunno if these are available from Farnell.

Ah okay, so I can expect it in over a month or so, okay...

Well, thing is, if Farnell doesn't have a Belgian distributor within a week, then RS will be faster.

@JourneymanGeek: From where to where were your Raspberry Pi sent?

Journeyman Geek

3:08 PM

@TomWijsman: not gotten mine yet

Tom Wijsman

And do they have a way to track when it's sent out?

Journeyman Geek

its due in november

Tom Wijsman

Oh, that's not so nice. :(

Journeyman Geek

@Paul has gotten his tho

Tom Wijsman

@Paul You here?

@JourneymanGeek: So, not sent out yet and the site estimates they will sent it in November?

Journeyman Geek

3:09 PM

ya

Tom Wijsman

:(

Bob

o.O

Tom Wijsman

Farnell, why you change delivery!

Journeyman Geek

original estimate was 12 weeks

they added 3 to that

Bob

SE has an API with write access now? :D

Tom Wijsman

3:10 PM

I mean, Farnell is awesome if it's just 2 weeks.

Although maybe the "jump start" in Belgium will add weeks to that.

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman: also, farnell raspis are british

RS are chinese made

for whatever difference it makes ;p

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek: Seems more than 3 weeks for companies from Belgium, and can't probably do in on the computer store because it doesn't really fit as a purchase the company would do. :P

So, yeah, think it's going to be RS for me too. So stupid Farnell changed this weekend...

@JourneymanGeek: What is the Order Ref? Or can I just give it a random name there? :D

Think so...

> Once your order has been dispatched you will receive a notification advice email from RS or our courier advising you of the shipment

Sounds good, now just have to wait...

HackToHell

4:01 PM

crap, win 8 does not install :/

Did Win 8 install hang for anyone else ?

Sathya

@Bob not full write access, just comments for now

Bob

@Sathya Yea, I saw

Still, that's already a massive leap

Now I just need to find my way around this API :\

Ivo Flipse

@TomWijsman still comes out of sleep mode :S

HackToHell

0

Q: Windows 8 install fails

I have the windows 8 release preview 32 bit iso and it fails to install when booted out of a flash drive, it copies the files and the boot loader installs but the install hangs when I boot into Windows 8 the first time, it simply keeps on spinning forever. Looking at the partition from Windows 7...

windows-8 freeze

Ivo Flipse

meeh powercfg /lastwake only says it woke up, not what woke it up

HackToHell

4:27 PM

nice limpet.net/mbrubeck/2012/10/26/mozilla-ie10-cake.html

eww youtube redesign sucks

Tom Wijsman

4:42 PM

@HackToHell: Nah... Just CSS hack it so it displays three columns, fits perfect on Full HD. :D

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