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12:12 AM

@Mokubai, I would tend to think it is more flattering than anything else. Looking at things from the glass-half-full perspective, they are very forthcoming and hyperlink the original question as well as crediting the members who posted the answers. They also seem to make an effort to portray Super User in a very positive manner, and I actually know a few junior Sys Admin personnel where I work who have become very interested in our community after initially hearing about in on How-To Geek.

Journeyman Geek

@Run5k SU's had a good relationship with HTG. I seem to remember they were even a honorary mod for a bit.

.....

Someone's basically searching for words like <female dog> and flagging them for profanity

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Huh? What makes you think that?

On chat?

Journeyman Geek

cause I'm seeing the flags

On main

Some of them are relevant. Roboflagging just seems... abusive

@JourneymanGeek, that's not too surprising. They post some rather nice tutorials. When we were upgrading our biggest domain (~15k people) to Windows 7 several years ago, I sent out an all-personnel e-mail message with hyperlinks to a few How-To Geek articles to help ease the transition for our end users.

Journeyman Geek

12:21 AM

Would a logical person find this distasteful?

I'm asking this since 'smart' power connectors have more than 2. Dumb ones are barrel connectors. Smart ones will bitch if its not an official power supply. Dumb ones don't care. Its a very relevant point here, especially where the only HP device I have is cheap and has a barrel plug — Journeyman Geek ♦ Jun 16 '15 at 1:00

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, but given the fact that there is no "dog" flag, I was wondering how do you connect the flag to "female dog".

Journeyman Geek

Its one of my own comments. I don't see anything wrong with it.

@JourneymanGeek ...I don't see a problem

It doesn't matter to me, but I can see how some would object to it - main usually has strict standards for such things in my experience

I quite literally used that as an example in a meta.SE post (though about chat)

12:23 AM

I would advise against handling a flag on one's own comment FWIW

Journeyman Geek

@BenN but of course.

There is nothing inherently wrong with that. It is just another way to say "complain." Someone who genuinely thinks that is profanity within that context might be a bit too pristine for Internet discourse!

oh here it is meta.stackexchange.com/a/270597/187228

Journeyman Geek

Another example superuser.com/questions/952418/…

yea, main is stricter

but... there's some level where you're just being overly-politically-correct. bleh.

more practically, if it's a flood of them that seems to be targeting old searched/found words, I'd personally call that flag abuse

12:25 AM

But if the flags are actually valid, I could see someone arguing that each flag should be handled on its own merit

user226528

That happens when you hand a person a handful of flags and that's all he sees. Well, he starts flagging.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

But I'm not seeing the problem ;p

I'm going to take a look at meta

(for all you guys standing for election, like @DavidPostill - this is the hard part of moderation)

Yep

Journeyman Geek

So, here's what I'm thinking

user226528

Hmmm....

Journeyman Geek

12:26 AM

Bitch is a word usable in both profane contexts and it has a common meaning as complain

I can say complain, but unless your filters are completely bonkers, the B word won't typically be "special"

user226528

So, the flagging person has no rights to bitch about "bitch".

I'm leaning towards rejecting the flag. It is a cuss word but it's not directed at a person and I would not have flagged it.

@JourneymanGeek arguably the same applies for, say, 'fuck'. which has many, many usages outside the profane context

Journeyman Geek

I am seeing a few questions where the flag is legitimate, and there's a wider, clearer issue.

just playing devil's advocate here :P

12:27 AM

(defer to the Be Nice policy)

user226528

bwDraco is right.

@BenN the other question is harm vs good - especially on comments, many might contain valuable information with such a minor word usage choice

Journeyman Geek

@Bob Well, the question for me is really "Would the average person, organically coming across that comment, find it offensive?"

@JourneymanGeek And that's entirely subjective.

As a mod, I might edit out the word in the comment, but I'd still reject the flag.

Journeyman Geek

12:28 AM

Well, the third option is editing it

I'd bet the vast vast majority of internet users wouldn't care

but you can always find easily-offended people

(moderators can edit anyone's comments, regardless of how old it is)

Yep, editing is an option, but I personally am very hesitant to edit comments due to the lack of public revision history

user226528

Then do it.

some of which would probably be offended by me calling them easily-offended

Journeyman Geek

12:29 AM

@bwDraco in that case though, the flags are "legitmate" and need action.

;p

@JourneymanGeek this smells like something SE Corp might weigh in on

Journeyman Geek

Being a mod can be a pain in the <rear end> sometimes ;p

or meta.SU/meta.SE

it is potentially a network-wide thing...

Journeyman Geek

It would be hilarious if someone flagged that post.

Yeah. This needs to be brought up on Meta.

12:30 AM

@JourneymanGeek that's why I chose it as an example in that meta answer -_-

Journeyman Geek

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Q: Should swearing/profanity etc be accepted or removed from posts?

I'm a person who finds posts with bad language/profanity unprofessional and offensive. When I see a post on SU with the f word or similar (better/worse) I feel the site is let down for allowing it. However, I am going to assume that SE doens't have a major issue with it because posts with bad l...

just like how some people apparently consider "crap" to be less offensive than "shit"

Journeyman Geek

Is vaguely a dupe

Yes, the irony of being offended after being labeled easily-offended. Again, if someone is that sensitive, Internet-based communication may be an unwise choice of activity for them.

because I don't see a difference

Journeyman Geek

12:31 AM

Its still post consumer food? ;p

We're talking about answers there.

That doesn't quite warrant a flag.

user226528

Seconding that.

user226528

Assume good faith. Understand their ultimate purpose. Everything is gonna be fine.

Journeyman Geek

however

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A: Is it all right to use the flag option to...?

I don't agree that it is perfectly fine to use the moderator flags in matters of voting-to-close. The Moderators would be the first to say that they are perfectly happy take a look at questions that need attention. That is admirable, but what you are requesting amounts to a supervote-by-proxy, ...

> Flagging should be reserved for egregious problems (blatant spam, illegal posts, profanity, etc)

;p

That's SE corporate.

> English has tons of words, we can easily think of alternatives instead to swears without losing meaning

12:33 AM

I'm not sure profanity not directed at a person is quite on this level...

user226528

Damn, we need a clear-cut policy.

Journeyman Geek

XD

AIUI "crap" started off as an euphemism...

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand I've often said, the rules here basically are "basic rules + tons of precident"

user226528

How?

user226528

12:34 AM

@JourneymanGeek Don't precedents become rules?

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand you need to find them though

Hmm. If it's in an answer, I'd probably just edit it out. The user does not deserve -100 for "street talk" not intended as a personal attack.

Journeyman Geek

and often there's multiple, slightly overlapping and contradictory ones

@bwDraco certainly not

A comment to steer the user in the right direction, sure.

user226528

Doesn't a personal message do?

user226528

12:35 AM

Oh, sorry, we don't have that here.

Journeyman Geek

Multiple users and I don't know who the comment flagger is.

user226528

So, scratch my last.

> Your password must include 8 characters PLUS consist of at least three of the following:
Latin upper case letters, Latin lower case letters, base 10 digits, non-alphanumeric characters.

Journeyman Geek

I could reject the lot and see if he gets flag banned ;p

user226528

That's actually valid and devious.

12:36 AM

@FleetCommand There are mod messages, and mods can create private rooms on chat if necessary

@FleetCommand Mods can PM users, but it's only meant for serious issues (e.g. suspension, final warning)

A mod message would be a bit heavy for this though

Journeyman Geek

hm.

Are comments even searchable?

> You might want to be more careful about your language—even though it wasn't directed at anyone, some people may find it offensive, so I've edited it out.

@JourneymanGeek SEDE

12:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek only on Google AFAIK

@JourneymanGeek Not directly; they aren't indexed.

user226528

@bwDraco If you using a ton of flags is an automatic warrant for ban, then it is serious enough.

Journeyman Geek

@BenN that indicates a certain level of effort.

@JourneymanGeek pretend your comment wasn't flagged. what would you do then?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob reject.

12:38 AM

actually, is it more flags than a single user can issue?

Journeyman Geek

But its worth considering the other side.

nope, 5-6

I wonder if it's Smokey going rogue :P

> Starting your password with an upper case letter and ending with a special character is easily guessed by standard cracking software. Mix it up.

oh, not that many then

Journeyman Geek

one that I feel is completely valid

12:39 AM

@Bob That would have resulted in as many as three flags, and from several different users because the autoflagging takes random accounts (among those that have signed up) and uses them to cast flags.

Journeyman Geek

the rest are on the wrong side of maybe

@MichaelFrank make your password 20 chars long. no "standard cracking software" is guessing that

Only posts are subject to auto-flagging though

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

user226528

Carpal tunnel syndrome...

12:40 AM

Let me pull up the Smokey records...

Journeyman Geek

(this is more of a "This is what really takes up moderator time thing)

If the user is just flagging lots of posts simply because they contain profanity, not because they are actually offensive, I would 1) reject the flags as invalid where they are not warranted and 2) superping (unless the user isn't on chat, in which case I'd mod message) the user casting the flags.

user226528

On a related note, is engaging in reduction ad absurdum ground for actionable flag?

@FleetCommand Example?

Journeyman Geek

.... examples please. I've not had enough coffee for ~~lawyer speak~~ latin

user226528

12:42 AM

@Bob Hold on.

user226528

@Bob @JourneymanGeek Never mind. The question is deleted.

Link?

@bwDraco Superping works even if they don't have a chat account, interestingly

IIRC, anyway

I thought superping requires a chat user ID?

That's one method, or you can provide a site and a user ID on that site

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A: What is a 'superping'?

Superpings are a chatroom feature only available to diamond moderators, where they can reach a user irrespective of past interaction. Compare that to a normal ping, where you can @name someone in comments or in a chatroom only if they have been active on a post or in that chatroom. Superpings h...

12:45 AM

Hmm...

@JourneymanGeek Multiple users...

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/reason/33, metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/reason/31

This might provide some clues, but I don't see much in the way of bad autoflags here.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco can you find the specific examples?

I'll ping undo at some point

Wait, are posts getting flagged too?

Journeyman Geek

Nope

I thought Smokey only looks at posts, not comments, but they do a lot of things and I might not be up on all of it

Smokey does not monitor comments. Again, comments are not indexed for search.

Journeyman Geek

12:52 AM

Yup, that's what I thought too.

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Q: What's our threshold for profanity in comments?

I just handled a bunch of flags on older comments, flagging the use of the word "bitch" as "complain" or "is a pain". Now certain words, I can get - but in this case, it seems like common, generally mildly inoffensive usage - talking about a situation or software" With cases like if i had...

Well Windows 10 refresh worked a treat, at least after 3 hours of fighting to get it to work in the first place

1:07 AM

So what's a non-base 10 number?

Gypsy Spellweaver

@MichaelFrank here's a non-base 10 number for comparison, probably not valid for passwords: א

Why don't they just say digits 0-9 then? :|

Gypsy Spellweaver

@MichaelFrank Maybe they wanted to be "precise," or "obtuse."

Bigger question is "what are the other 8 characters supposed to be?"

Journeyman Geek

1:23 AM

@MichaelFrank some smartass may claim DEADBEEF is a number

0xDEA... yea

Gypsy Spellweaver

@JourneymanGeek You mean it aint

Journeyman Geek

@GypsySpellweaver I don't think most password systems are designed for hex

Gypsy Spellweaver

@bertieb Why not 0x01A4

@GypsySpellweaver Ƥ ?

1:25 AM

lol

Gypsy Spellweaver

Would most password checkers pass this one: zΣΤʹΞʹ7t

(I thought it was a unicode reference I recognised, but naw...)

Gypsy Spellweaver

@bwDraco old-timer ;)

Journeyman Geek

I was jokingly considering a password system that would consist entirely of randomly picked arrays of emoji

@GypsySpellweaver ctrl+alt+del change password...

Journeyman Geek

1:27 AM

(by randomly arranging it you make keyboard sniffing useless, and you don't need "all" the password, just enough of it, which makes brute forcing harder...)

@GypsySpellweaver According to howsecureismypassword.com, this would take 1 minute to crack.

According to password.kaspersky.com it would take twelve days to crack with a regular home computer.

according to me those sites are dumb

Gypsy Spellweaver

Just tried one out, gave me 429 billion years for one off the top of my head. Not too bad.

kaspersky only says 3261 centuries.

Don't think either site's a good idea though. As soon as you "test" a password, it's no longer usable :(

user226528

I don't understand this: superuser.com/posts/502378/revisions. How did "Community" do such an edit?

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand anonymous suggested edit

1:36 AM

@GypsySpellweaver Yea, Kaspersky says "Don't use real passwords."

Gypsy Spellweaver

@FleetCommand Whoever it is has a hard time typing. Edit desc is "Append redirector prevents deetion of an existing file"

2:20 AM

why only catalogs? where are all the dogalogs?

@allquixotic There are, but they're normally kind stinky. At least catalogs get buried on occasion.

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank no no, those get left outside. Bagged and Binned.

Journeyman Geek

2:52 AM

Gypsy Spellweaver

@JourneymanGeek Here's you catastrophe:

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Journeyman Geek

ooh

there's a second season of into the badlands

Gypsy Spellweaver

@JourneymanGeek I only have 4 seasons (and 2 subseasons) per year. Non involve the tele.

Journeyman Geek

3:07 AM

lol

Into the badlands is cool though

Its essentially a chinese martial arts series set in the post apocalyptic american south

uh

Journeyman Geek

Talk with most Aussies, "cunt" is used so casually, like a term of endearment or sigh, more than you've presented "bitch" here — random ♦ 26 mins ago

Gypsy Spellweaver

3:23 AM

@JourneymanGeek Saw that, I he gonna turn in his citizenship?

Journeyman Geek

;p

@Bob ^ ;p

also

hackaday.com/2017/03/22/…

> If you already have administrator permissions you can do pretty much what you want, including DLL injection to fool anti-virus software. (Though it might be easy just to disable or remove it.) This new tool has the advantage of being stealthy, but is a 0-day that requires root a 0-day?

My server's going offline intermittently

status.linode.com

(Newark datacenter trouble)

Gypsy Spellweaver

@bwDraco At least they know about it and are working on it.

@JourneymanGeek You know. I am actually offended by what he's implying.

The irony.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob This is somewhat messier than I'd hoped.

3:34 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yea that's what my complaint about it yesterday was.

@JourneymanGeek Well, you asked an honest question. Not gonna blame you for other people pulling out the personal attacks.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@JourneymanGeek I think @FleetCommand got it right in his opening statement. I'd say the threshold is the intention to offend and disparage. That's the red line. If it don't cross that red line leave it alone.

It just goes back to Be Nice. Can't remember where I saw that recently. ;)

Journeyman Geek

4:37 AM

imgur.com/gallery/OeUi2WQ

4 hours ago, by bwDraco

(defer to the Be Nice policy)

Gypsy Spellweaver

5:24 AM

@JourneymanGeek That's precious.

@bwDraco That's one. Here's another superuser.com/help/be-nice

2 hours later…

7:02 AM

hello

my 59 years old colleague has paper backups of every program he ever wrote, we have boxes full of that stuff.
also, in the old days of perforated paper bands, writing it on paper before was mendatory

Journeyman Geek

7:37 AM

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Oliver Salzburg

7:49 AM

Finally put our 2-letter-domain to use: fm.mg/install

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg those buttons are hudge

Updated with my own utilities: rahul2001.com/archive/executables/-readme.html

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Intended for mobile

@OliverSalzburg I want a two letter domain!

Oliver Salzburg

As in, mobile only

Journeyman Geek

7:52 AM

imgur.com/a/0Cpgu

it is sharp tho

Oliver Salzburg

On mobile, it's supposed to detect your OS and direct you to the right store anyway

@JourneymanGeek what a beautiful pussy :3

anyone here that knows how to connect to an ldap database using gssapi on linux/debian?

8:25 AM

anyone here that could verify a powershell cmdlet for me ?
Getting crazy... :
Get-AdUser -Filter "Surname -like 'Example*'" -Properties ProfilePath

Returned profilePath is always empty, even for freshly new created user-object with a manually set profilepath(which is working for the user...)

@OliverSalzburg Works for me

@SaintCore @BenN is the go to guy for Powershell stuff

8:49 AM

morning

@JourneymanGeek personally my tolerance to swearing is quite high especial if its done in context and has a valid reason for being used

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi I'd consider a f-bomb out of place in a comment, or a c-word

agreed

hey guys

Journeyman Geek

actually, I wonder...

and tbh in the context you and that other guy were using it was totally fine. if you had been using it in reference to a female user or colleague i'd have issue...

Journeyman Geek

8:58 AM

That's what I felt

there was a great documentary on the radio years and years ago about swearing and how offensive certain words are etc.

rofl, if I'm configuring a saved query in ad with the gui(with the exactly same filter as I would use in powershell) it works. Definetly not my day^^

it has stuck with me because the presenter said "fuck" is one of the versatile words in english and it can be every word in a sentence and still make sense

for example

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

:36227392 attack [the] attacking attacker

That actually works with many words

Journeyman Geek

9:03 AM

That's one of the words I would actually consider flags for being valid.

If they'd picked that or random's example, I'd actually have been more inclined to accept the flags

Notably, some non-native English speakers think 'effing' equals 'very' and inconsistently use the former in their posts

Journeyman Geek

I guess there's two unrelated issues here though, both the language and the mass flagging of older posts.

@OliverSalzburg i may have chosen an overly simple example

Which is responsible for most of the 'offensive words found in body' false positives for Smokey.

Journeyman Geek

and of course, whether its appropriate to edit these

Oliver Salzburg

9:06 AM

@Burgi I know. I just heard that "It's the only word in the English language where..." BS too many times :P

but that isn't what i said... ;)

You can't catch a train from Cockermouth to Scunthorpe via Penistone

Journeyman Geek

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatically correct sentence in American English, often presented as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated linguistic constructs. It has been discussed in literature in various forms since 1967, when it appeared in Dmitri Borgmann's Beyond Language: Adventures in Word and Thought. The sentence employs three distinct meanings of the word buffalo: the city of Buffalo, New York; the verb (uncommon in usage) to buffalo, meaning "to bully, harass, or intimidate" or "to baffle"; and the animal...

i did just check my facts, you have to change in manchester...

@JourneymanGeek There's also the police police police thing

Oliver Salzburg

Stupid domain registry! Y U SO SLOW?! O__o

I'm treating myself to some domain fun this morning

Journeyman Geek

9:15 AM

@Burgi personchester

heh

i just checked and cockermouth doesn't even have a train station

Germany/Austria has the worst place names though...

> Fucking is an Austrian village in the municipality of Tarsdorf, in the Innviertel region of western Upper Austria. The village is 33 kilometres north of Salzburg, 4 kilometres east of the river Inn, which forms the German border.

It's not pronounced the same as the normal 'Fucking' though.

And it's part of Austria

Isn't there one in Australia too tho?

that's confusing xD

9:34 AM

that's the Fucking village

#LMAO + #ROTFL

2 easy

sorry -_-

@M.A.R. i'm a childish brit and such things make me snigger

@Burgi I'm not a childish Brit and such things make me snigger too

:D

@JourneymanGeek like that one? github.com/ussjoin/reticle/wiki/F-BOMB-Hardware

user226528

O_o. They should consider a name change!

Journeyman Geek

9:38 AM

You guys do realize in a year or so, some comedian will flag all y all

@JourneymanGeek Huh, any drama I missed?

@SaintCore Seems like it might be a common problem: social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/…

Journeyman Geek

Maybe.

@JourneymanGeek bring it on!

Falling or Ballistically-launched Object that Makes Backdoors (F-BOMB)

Journeyman Geek

9:41 AM

@Burgi happened to Bob :p

user226528

Fucking, Austria

Fucking (German pronunciation: [ˈfʊkɪŋ], rhymes with "booking") is an Austrian village in the municipality of Tarsdorf, in the Innviertel region of western Upper Austria. The village is 33 kilometres (21 mi) north of Salzburg, 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) east of the river Inn, which forms the German border. Despite having a population of only 104 in 2005, the village has drawn attention for its unusual place name in the English-speaking world. Its road signs are a popular visitor attraction, and they were often stolen by souvenir-hunting tourists until 2005, when the signs were modified to be the...

Journeyman Geek

But I do think you guys are having a little too much fun with this :p

i trust in the mods to be levelheaded and take it all in context

user226528

Read the image caption!

Journeyman Geek

Ah. But not everyone who flags or handles a flag is a mod.

Oliver Salzburg

9:42 AM

snopes.com/photos/signs/austria.asp

Look at how old those photos are

in france we have "poil", and "a poil" means naked, so we can say "j'ai pris une photo de ma grand mère a poil" ("I took a picture of my grandmother naked")

that isn't as funny

we are thinking of making gifs of everyone in the office doing chair dancing to celebrate the return of my minion next week

user226528

@Burgi Can you please test something? I just discovered that the Bing home page scrolls down with the mouse wheel even though it has no scroll bars. Does it happen to you too?

bing has a homepage? sarcasm

nope

but i have a silly res

user226528

er... bing.com?

user226528

9:48 AM

Ok

no scrolling for me in chrome

i also appently have a silly size because I only give 2/3rd of my screen to my browser.

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user226528

@Burgi Oh, I see. Try this link: bing.com/?cc=us

nope

Journeyman Geek

no scrolling inFF either

9:52 AM

no scrolling for me

chromium

scrolling in ff 52 for me

Journeyman Geek

ah!

does it with partial windows

no scrolling in lynx either.

but only on bing.com(?cc=us

upps /?

FF scrolls the the images loaded at the bottom.

user226528

9:53 AM

I have no scrolling in FF52 but I have in Chrome.

@SaintCore Both links scroll in FF

neither link scrolls in FF for me, even if i make the window smaller

user226528

I discovered how to activate scrolling in my FF. I signed out of my Microsoft account.

if I control+mousewheel it scrolls

!!lenny

!!info

user226528

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user226528

9:59 AM

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Bing have some really bloody cool pictures of the day.

user226528

Yeah :)

though I prefer ddg.gg

Oliver Salzburg

It's great that it doesn't track me, but that also means it won't find what I want :P

Google needs to know me to understand what I want to find when I search for "nyc reporter", and it does

ddg on the other hand has no clue :P

I find google annoying because it "corrects" my correct writing

and sometimes I can't even disable that

also !g something

10:05 AM

Did you mean "correctz"

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. cucumbers

mmmm

egg bacon butty....

and tea

auto-cucumber

green eggs and ham?

there is literally nothing wrong with the world right now

@DavidPostill for me only the first one...

10:10 AM

@OliverSalzburg twitter.com/NYCReporter or github.com/istanbuljs/nyc ?

Oliver Salzburg

@satibel The latter

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This Apple.com page has an ad for iTunes 11...

@OliverSalzburg !gh nyc

user226528

@MichaelFrank Aren't we on iTunes 12 already?

@FleetCommand Yup

Oliver Salzburg

10:12 AM

@satibel Huh?

type that on ddg.gg (or click the link)

!gh is shortcut for github

Oliver Salzburg

@satibel You know, after I found the page I was looking for, it's pretty easy to come up with alternative methods to find it

depends if you know it's on github or not.

Oliver Salzburg

If I knew, I'd search for "github nyc reporter"

However, I wasn't even looking for the project page for nyc

I was looking for information about the different reporters that can be used with it

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source

10:27 AM

rotflmao

ALL MY TABLES HAS BEEN DROPPED LOOKING AT THAT PIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Bob lol

Would have been even funnier if that was the last entry in the list ;p

10:48 AM

I heard there are archive quality DVDs. Are there also rewritable ones if I want to add more data with time?

what sort of storage time are you looking for?

iirc most consumer dvds are rated for about 25 years

11:18 AM

@Burgi Has anyone teste dthem after this time?

I've known cd's to go bad pretty quickly

i don't have a source other than my friend talking about it when we were talking about digitally preserving archeological data

@Burgi 5-10 years...

CD/DVD should be ok then as long as you store them in a dark and dry place

oh and don't use any solvents (including CD pen ink) on the disc

Archiveteam is where I suggest you go

tho we are a little.... abraisve sometimes

archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Storage_Media

@djsmiley2k "we"?

11:33 AM

archiveteam

including me

D:

cool

@Boris_yo get a couple of WD Ae if you want to archive.

can anyone decipher this error?

it will be a lot cheaper than archive DVDs

> Error handling action Item has already been added. Key in dictionary: 'textpage' Key being added: 'textpage'

11:36 AM

you add a key already in the dictionnary.

it doesn't like that.

i'm trying to delete something, not add it! :S

i hate umbraco

what's the code your using to delete it? :/

urgh that wikipage is horribly useless right now, sry

but the guys are good xD

the base CMS, rightclick -> delete

K

@Burgi but the guys are good sarcasm

11:54 AM

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@TOWMN are you chilling after your race around the world?

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