Root Access

Oliver Salzburg

10:03 AM

That fucking Arcserve support...

Bob

doh

@JourneymanGeek I was wondering why my Dell monitor was failing half the tests

Note to self: set Windows display scaling to 100% before testing monitor

Oliver Salzburg

After failing again to solve any of the open tickets, they now sent another package of hotpatched .jar files to replace on the system and asked me to turn the logging up to "insane gold plus" level

Bob

Gamma of P2715Q approx 2.2, great

Gamma of CB280HK approx 1.9, ow

@OliverSalzburg That's dev code for "I have NFI what's going on so I'm gonna throw everything at it and see what sticks."

I've had to do that before

Oliver Salzburg

I told them to go f themselves

Working on this problem has literally already cost thousands of Euros

Those Euros were transferred to our bank account, as it was our work time, but still :P

So angry right now!

Bob

eww, some funky "6-axis colour adjustment" option

Oooh, it might be the TN vs IPS, ut very obvious banding on the TN one. @JourneymanGeek, check your Crossover? lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php

Ow. lagom.nl/lcd-test/inversion.php#invpattern

Journeyman Geek

10:17 AM

Lol when I get home.

Bob

?!

@JourneymanGeek P2715Q is RGB subpixels. CB280HK is BGR subpixels...

Ow.

djsmiley2k

@OliverSalzburg suggest customer moves to use rsync, call it a day?

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k Great idea. After we've already moved to Arcserve from the previous solution :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob try viewing angles.

djsmiley2k

@OliverSalzburg D:

Bob

10:20 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yea, viewing angles are shit, as expected of TN

djsmiley2k

should of used rsync first :D

Bob

Normally I don't even notice all this

Journeyman Geek

Lol

Bob

You've spoiled me with the P2715Q recommendation :P

djsmiley2k

@Bob That's very.... green?

Bob

10:21 AM

@djsmiley2k The one on the right is 'correct'

Oliver Salzburg

@djsmiley2k Doesn't sound like a practical solution to back up a Hyper-V based environment

Bob

And that's mirrored.

Therefore the one on the left is stuffed.

Oliver Salzburg

Also it's "should have" :P

djsmiley2k

@Bob wow :O

wtf

@OliverSalzburg ah, yus

hmmmmmmmm Sounds like you've taken up work at my old place.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob there's a reason I called it one of the best reasonably priced monitors

djsmiley2k

10:22 AM

Congrats

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Oh it comes with an ICC colour profile Windows can detect too... I never noticed that :P

So there's probably not much point trying to calibrate the P2715Q by eye

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Nope.

djsmiley2k

o_O wife saw a huge fox running down the road... fine

at 9:43am in daylight

o_O

Journeyman Geek

I calibrated my secondary by eye so it was better

Bob

!!tell 33156962 foxyes

ChatBot John Cavil

10:23 AM

Bob

Cleartype defaults: 1, 2, 1, 2, 3

Journeyman Geek

10:35 AM

mothership.sg/2016/10/…

This seems awesome

Burgi

what does "lim kopi" mean?

the english seems really bad... is that normal for singapore?

djsmiley2k

Hah I want a bus uncle

Journeyman Geek

It means to have a coffee.

Also it's exaggerated Singlish

Burgi

@djsmiley2k you can have a bus uncle in the UK if you are willing to give up personal space and have a weird person follow you home

anyone got any ideas on this?

2

Q: Safari toggle scale image jerking

While working on a project in which it is required to zoom in on a really high res image (~6000px x 4000px) to discover highlighted parts in the image, I came across a Safari issue while scaling the image to a certain position (assigning top and left to specific values). The issue is that the s...

Oliver Salzburg

10:51 AM

No Safari here

Burgi

safari is the new IE :(

Bob

@Burgi both Safari and IE tbh

Edge is still doing some funny shit

but, less funny crap than Safari, and I can run it in a (free!) VM

Oliver Salzburg

IE is still IE for us. I have never heard anyone complaining about something not working on Safari, but I constantly get IE-based complaints

But the normal Safari user is also the kind of user that would use Apple Mail and can't really distinguish "working" from "not working"

Bob

O_O

Why do I have an E228WFP colour profile?

allquicatic

I use Chrome on my Mac, but you don't actually use anything but Safari (at least, its specific version of WebKit and JS) on an iPhone regardless of which "browser" you install. Still, after a year and a month of using Safari frequently on my iPhone with iOS 9 and 10, I've never had any issues.

I guess I don't visit Web 1.0 line of business sites based on SAP or Oracle Portlets or whatever other broken shit you guys have to maintain that's coded to be compatible with Netscape Navigator

because stuff like Google AMP pages render beautifully on iOS Safari

Bob

11:07 AM

@allquicatic Congrats. All well and good for you as a user.

To be fair, other browsers (namely, Chrome) have had their share of issues. Including that scrollbar bug that's still open.

We did have a 'fun' bug with Safari on iPad with a random hovering misplaced cursor...

allquicatic

@Bob All I'm trying to say is, the web has always been a standards clusterfuck, and likely always will be, in terms of what feature-sets and behaviors actively-used browsers have and espouse. Even fairly standards-compliant browsers may simply not have caught up to the latest features for whatever reason because different browsers advance at different rates.

Bob

These pages render beautifully because some poor webdev somewhere has had to add special cases to fix the quirks for you -_-

@allquicatic I'm not talking new features - of course new features will have widely varying levels of support.

allquicatic

However, top of the line user experiences with great performance and zero rendering issues exist, for very complex and well laid-out webpages, that work ideally across all major desktop and mobile browsers. So there must be a way to code your pages that will work.

Burgi

only with shims and special cases

allquicatic

@Bob Welcome to coding for the web. I've never heard of a single time in the history of the WWW where that wasn't true.

Bob

11:10 AM

I'm talking about quirks in old, 'stable', features. I'm talking about bugs. I'm talking about regressions in new versions.

allquicatic

Like that SVG rendering bug that sent Firefox either crashing or OOMing or hanging on that one FOSS image website that I discovered a few years ago?

Bob

@allquicatic Most of the time, you can test and debug without spending thousands on new hardware.

That is my biggest gripe. And how shitty the devtools are.

They beat IE10 devtools, and that's about all.

I've accepted that quirks will exist, as much as I complain about it.

But "if you want to support our platform, you have to pay us!" -- Apple

That pisses me off.

Burgi

agreed

allquicatic

!! s/support/test/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquicatic But "if you want to test our platform, you have to pay us!" -- Apple (source)

allquicatic

11:13 AM

You can still support it as a webdev by basing your website as much as possible on well-tested frameworks like Angular which have already had 99.999% of the bugs worked out (and all the quirks added) so they work on all modern browsers on all platforms

Bob

Can't even pull the "Apple doesn't sell software like Microsoft does" here, considering Microsoft gives away VMs and licences for free.

@allquicatic There's no way any large company can rely on that. We use what should be a large, well-tested framework - and we still run into many bugs, often browser-specific.

And then there's the regressions in new browser releases.

Those are the worst.

Granted, they've mostly happened in Chrome so far, but that's far from a guarantee that Safari is immune.

@allquicatic The only way you can get way with that is by having very simple pages.

Which does work for the majority of websites, yes.

It does not work for more complex webapps.

@JourneymanGeek looks like it's a thing for Dell to include ICC profiles... my old secondary monitor, a Del E228WFP, installed one at some point o.O

Journeyman Geek

yup

allquicatic

@Bob Apparently, somehow, BrowseEmAll now supports mobile browsers right in the app... I'm not sure how they do it. It could be through very careful testing of features and an attempt to emulate a Firefox or Chrome or WebKit instance to behave exactly like that mobile browser (kinda like how RegexBuddy emulates the .NET, Java, etc. regex engines)

I'm downloading now to see if my do-gooder license key still works

Bob

@allquicatic The rendering engines are so incredibly complex that there's no way you'd catch all quirks like that

allquicatic

Dan Herken gave me a free license for all the code and SU answers I've contributed :P

Bob

11:20 AM

could be something like BrowserStack? idk

Oh, local.

Burgi

@allquicatic the issue i linked occurs on all versions of safari

Bob

At least that'd avoid the lag that makes BrowserStack unbearable between 10am-5pm...

Journeyman Geek

who's dan herken?

allquicatic

author of BrowseEmAll

Journeyman Geek

ahh

allquicatic

11:21 AM

the license is fairly expensive, but I got a free license key in 2013 for linking to my Launchpad.net, SU, and Github accounts and he said I "more than qualify" for it :P

Journeyman Geek

noise

Burgi

we use browserstack

allquicatic

@Bob as for "If you want to test for our platform, you have to pay us!" -- if you're working for an enterprise, that really shouldn't be surprising to the enterprise, nor should it be unaffordable, even for an enterprise with poor financials.

Journeyman Geek

@allquicatic I think my old workplace had a pair of old mac minis for OS X VMs

(and an old xserv, which was what we really used)

Bob

@allquicatic It's still the only major browser that does that.

allquicatic

11:24 AM

You can get a current-gen mobile device with the latest iOS for $400. And the Mac Mini starts at $500. Both of those prices exclude sales, discounts later in the release cycle, etc. -- and these older devices will be supported and updated for years to come.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob In theory up to a point you could have run that monstrocity that was safari on windows

allquicatic

$900 per developer if you want each webdev to have both mobile and desktop Apple platforms to test on.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That stopped at 5, and I don't think it ever supported a remote debugging connection to iOS

allquicatic

wow. Dat unannounced reboot

careful, if you install BrowseEmAll it reboots your system without asking

Bob

o.O

that's... dumb

ooh, I just got Skyrim Special Edition

allquicatic

11:31 AM

what's so special about it?

Bob

(automatically, free, on Steam - apparently cause I already had Legendary)

@allquicatic Updated graphics

allquicatic

oh, you mean mods? :D

djsmiley2k

:D

/me wibbles

allquicatic

huh... BrowseEmAll started Chrome 52 in a window of a specific size for its "iPhone 7" test

I can't tell if it's properly emulating Safari behavior or not

Bob

@allquicatic Mods don't make the game 64-bit! :D

eurogamer.net/articles/…

Apparently some other minor engine improvements mods can't match, but mods are better in other areas.

allquicatic

11:35 AM

old, but browseemall.com/Blog/index.php/2012/07/26/…

@Bob holy shit, they made Skyrim 64-bit?

for serious?

Bob

@allquicatic Apparently!

MORE MODS

djsmiley2k

these amd server chips, zen, any good?

Bob

lol

reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/4o3nio/…

allquicatic

@Bob awesome! and no more crashes to desktop due to running out of virtual address space

I guess it makes sense, in the context of Skyrim coming to the Nintendo Switch -- I mean if they're going to revive such a great game and port it to all new platforms in 2016, why not go all-out and fix bugs, make it look better, and port it to the latest Windows platform?

Bob

@allquicatic Run Javascript: console.log(2 ** 2)

That Brazilian Guy

11:38 AM

Wow, Oliver's suggestion has got three votes already!

If this gets 10 votes I'll ~~kill myself~~ run a process called myself and kill -9 it.

Bob

Exponentiation operator. Should work in Chrome 54 but not iOS 10: kangax.github.io/compat-table/es2016plus/#test-exponentiation_(**)_operato‌r

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy what suggestion?

allquicatic

@Bob yeah but it's Chrome 52 :S

That Brazilian Guy

21 hours ago, by Oliver Salzburg

In which case your only option is to kill yourself

Bob

@allquicatic ...get Chrome 54 and try again :P

allquicatic

11:39 AM

@Bob it's not the system Chrome

my installed Chrome is 54

Bob

@allquicatic Chrome 52 should also support **

allquicatic

oh ok

That Brazilian Guy

Good morning for whoever was waken up at 8am by three of their neighbors complaining of power loss. o/

Bob

Alternatively, iOS 10 supports String.prototype.padStart but Chrome 52 only supports it behind a flag.

That Brazilian Guy

Shutup autocucumber. Neighbours is a perfectly valid spelling.

allquicatic

11:41 AM

@Bob it works :(

2 ** 2

Bob

@allquicatic So... not really a faithful emulation.

allquicatic

String.prototype.padStart returns undefined

not calling it, just getting the value of it on the console

Burgi

@Bob didn't they already do that with the original macbook air?

That Brazilian Guy

So... It's friday. I'm taking my ---gaming laptop--- shitty laptop with Steam on it to work.
Last (and only other) time I did that it was fun.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob turns out the surface studio has a vaguely adjustable screen. Looks like it'll work as something like a wacom

djsmiley2k

11:44 AM

@ThatBrazilianGuy 6:45am by my daughters foot in my back

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Vaguely adjustable?

Journeyman Geek

I wake up at 6.30 to reach work

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy bad news for you: today is thursday

Journeyman Geek

@Bob no vertical, odd amount of tilt

djsmiley2k

ha

my work is about a 10 min drive

That Brazilian Guy

11:45 AM

@Burgi Only for you (and everyone else in this room).

~~I got jealous of @Bob and moved even further on the timezones.~~ We don't work tomorrow.

djsmiley2k

LOL

Burgi

lol

djsmiley2k

Your Brazilian, I doubt you work most days ;)

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That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k My wife's work is a 5min trip. On foot.

djsmiley2k

She wins

tho that means she can't use snow as an excuse to not get to work :D

Burgi

11:46 AM

@djsmiley2k to be fair carnivals take a lot of planning!

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k Dude, I'm a Brazilian government worker. I doubt I work at all. [/jk, I swear]

djsmiley2k

LOL

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy if only your president...

Burgi

does the brazilian government have something like the NSA/GCHQ?

djsmiley2k

Yup

'Brazilian Uncle'

allquicatic

11:48 AM

@Bob not very surprising; but a bit disappointing that that's all it does

Bob

@allquicatic Which Chrome's built-in emulation already does -_-

allquicatic

yup

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k Whoever uses snow as an excuse to getting late in Rio deserves a prize.

allquicatic

all that for more than a $300 license? !!no

djsmiley2k

@ThatBrazilianGuy you mean you think chaos wouldn't break out?

I remember in a old old job,

well, old old old old job

It was one city over

That Brazilian Guy

11:50 AM

@djsmiley2k If only for the huge crowd gathering to admire snow in awe.

djsmiley2k

2-3 trains each way, depending how early I'd get the train

allquicatic

I'm starting the Skyrim SE pre-load now... probably going to play it a lot over the coming weeks

Bob

@allquicatic I just confirmed that padStart should work on iOS 10 but not Chrome 54

djsmiley2k

then a 10-15min quick walk

The snow began

the first day about half the office made it in

2nd day around 1/3

Burgi

i used bad weather as an excuse when i had a motorcycle

djsmiley2k

11:51 AM

3rd day was me, the guy who lived 5 min away and the HR director

Bob

djsmiley2k

she came in, went 'wtf are you doing here, most people couldn't drive outta their streets!' and sent us home

allquicatic

@Bob well, to be fair, to actually run Safari on an emulated MacOS or iOS would be illegal for a third party software distribution like BrowseEmAll

the only way it'd be legal is on Apple hardware

djsmiley2k

It really wasn't that bad, but as the people who drove in every day were being big wusses, she didn't think it fair that me who'd traveled the longest happen to come in and be there

Bob

@allquicatic They could've emulated the same set of supported JS, but that's far too hard :P

allquicatic

11:52 AM

@Bob yeah, plus they'd have had to implement features that Chrome lacks that Safari has, like padStart

and that feature set would change from version to version

Bob

@allquicatic We still gaming on the weekends?

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k My minion-of-sorts never misses work and sometimes he shows up unexpected. He lives on campus.

Bob

I never did finish my Skyrim run o.O

allquicatic

@Bob sure, depends on RP schedule though, if I have an event I have an event

Bob

@allquicatic k, I'll poke you on Allo/SMS around time then

and see if you're free

@allquicatic The harder part is the rendering engine. Hi, undocumented quirks!

allquicatic

11:54 AM

woo, LTE peaking at 30 Mbps right now

Bob

Better yet, I don't think Apple makes Safari's bugtracker public (?!)

Heck, even IE/Edge has apublic bugtracker!

allquicatic

Skyrim SE preloading

Bob

> bugreport.apple.com is the canonical bug reporting mechanism. Once you have submitted an issue, it will be given a "radar" number and you will be treated to possibly the most archaic customer-facing bug reporting interfaces on the planet.

ha.

that about describes the last time I tried to report a bug

openradar has some, but I htink they're user-submitted

allquicatic

@Bob well the basic membership into their developer program is free now, so you should be able to get an Apple account and a free developer membership so you can go report bugs without spending money

Bob

@allquicatic It's more that I couldn't find any way to search for an existing report

allquicatic

11:57 AM

bugreport.apple.com's UI looks like Mac OS X Tiger running in my browser

Bob

openradar.appspot.com/faq

Basically, it's so bad that someone created a site specifically for people to add their bug reports to, to make a searchable database

which only includes a tiny fraction of actual reports

I find Google's Monorail annoying, but at least it's public

Bugzilla is also a bit of a mess, though probably the most flexible

Microsoft Connect is... I've never actually tried to report a bug there actually. It's also not great, and they occasionally remove products (and associated bugs) from it, which sucks. Still marginally better than Apple's completely closed process.

allquicatic

> 2010

that looks an awful lot like a Jet Black iPhone 7 o_O

except for the headphone jack

djsmiley2k

soooo

“root” with the password “welc0me” (o = zero in welcome).

WD Cloud MyNas devices

wonder if they findable on the net...

Burgi

long live the Woz!!!!

jokerdino

np.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/59bnxe/…

djsmiley2k

12:06 PM

shodan.io/host/84.118.33.255

oh, wow.

jokerdino

Oliver, what the crap is going on in that thread?

djsmiley2k

anyone wanna try and connect to the FTP with the root creds?

oi @Burgi you're into fun things, go crazy

Burgi

HA

site works locally, site works on staging...

put it live and EVERYTHING breaks

djsmiley2k

love it when staging doesn't match live.

then some dev goes 'oh yeah I changed that in live because....'

then they are fired outta a cannon for not testing changes in dev

Burgi

i want to bin this site and start again

Journeyman Geek

12:14 PM

0_0

Burgi

YES PLEASE CLIPPY!!!!!!!!

Dog

12:28 PM

!! Caaaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

Burgi

seriously, this site is terrible

25 active plugins

40+ installed

the template is all over the place with content hard coded

then some features are in the database instead of being written into code

then to top it all off the freelancer that wrote it originally walked out halfway through so my company farmed it out to some dodgy indian coding house who inserted all their weird machine generated code into it

Journeyman Geek

>_>

DavidPostill

12:48 PM

@Burgi Clearly he's moved to NZ or Fiji or somewhere

Burgi

what are those islands that fall on the international dateline?

solomon?

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy What? You don't have snow (Cocaine; heroin; amphetamine) in BR? :)

Burgi

i didn't know that was the street name for those drugs...

DavidPostill

@Burgi lol. You need to buy an A-Z ;p

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi wasn't there that little street famous for drugs? Was between my way to UWE and bristol city centre

Burgi

1:01 PM

i have no idea

> Major Issue: Connectivity issue
We are currently investigating an issue which may be affecting multiple customers. An update will be posted within 15 minutes or when more information is available.

great all i need

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek That was the car park at @Burgi's office ;p

Burgi

heh

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo just for the record - aibobot is my secondary account. I use it on my work PC cause I don't actually trust the PC - I've taken into account SE rules (I don't really use it to vote, and rarely answer questions on it) and there's no malice in me using it. The alternative is really not really being able to look in on chat during downtime.

Its not against the rules, and pretty much no one would worry about me misusing it when its clear its me

djsmiley2k

1:44 PM

@Burgi prtty sure i alk to you nightly on PSN and you just rage at me about how bad things are

surely there isn't 2 people in teh world with things this bad!

:D

Journeyman Geek

lol

djsmiley2k

Hooooow weird

just knowing I can ssh into my server, has given me a weird sense of accomplishment at work

I'm not actually using it for anything right now, but knowing I can if I need to, makes me happy inside.

bwDraco

1:59 PM

(and there's risk of account compromise—mod accounts require extra extra security)

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco meh, that computer's garbage

If I could get it reimaged, I'd be cool

bwDraco

Yeah, I've seen bad IT in quite a few places.

Journeyman Geek

this thing's passed through multiple users, and there's something about it that feels dodgy

djsmiley2k

I want 2 factor auth then

tho i do have that on my google account, I think there's also a seperate but connected se account login somewhere...

@JourneymanGeek Why so o_O

it's the extra ssl certs you want to be mindful of.

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k amongst other things, copies of winvnc in randomly named folders

djsmiley2k

2:05 PM

@JourneymanGeek that just sounds like someone had vnc and shouldn't have

but yah

I hide in plain sight

Journeyman Geek

and meh, outside the occational person asking why...

djsmiley2k

no one notices the extra copy of putty on my desktop.

Journeyman Geek

You know its me, You typically can ping either account and get an answer

(eventually)

djsmiley2k

hehe

nod.

bwDraco

2:21 PM

I would rather not risk a compromise of the main account in situations like this.

I wouldn't do it if the machine is suspect.

Journeyman Geek

and well

I do have a spare account

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k I wanted to allocate another laptop PC of mine specifically to access bank account and other information sensitive accounts when I travel but if I can subscribe to VPN services like VyprVPN, why would I make it complicated?

@bwDraco Do you know if surge protector for laptop exists?

That Brazilian Guy

@DavidPostill (1) very very much yes; (2) probably, but I suspect not quite a hit as the US media portraits it in the US; and (3) I think not

Boris_yo

I don't see it on Amazon.

That Brazilian Guy

Amazon is so big they named a forest after them.

2

Boris_yo

2:25 PM

I need to protect my laptop when traveling and at home when there are storms.

@ThatBrazilianGuy Good one but wasn't it the other way around?

That Brazilian Guy

@Boris_yo Different laptop doesn't mean network separation. VPN subscription doesn't mean it's safe from local threats.

I only access my bank accounts from either a non-persistent Linux VM or a non-persistent Linux USB

Boris_yo

@ThatBrazilianGuy Like thievery?

I referred to my laptop. I won't use public computer.

That Brazilian Guy

Not because I don't trust potential malware to interact with my bank info, but because I don't fucking trust the mandatory ~~malware~~ """""security suite"""" installed by the banks.

For instance: in WindowsXP (still a significative user base in 2015) it installs a new network adapter and redirects all traffic thru it.

I repeat: it installs a new network adapter and redirects all traffic thru it.

(The "redirect" part is me inferring, but what other cause would be for the internet being down once I removed this extra network adapter that shows up and coincidentally is named the same as the malw...oops, security suite?)

Boris_yo

Banks install security suites? That's new to me.

That Brazilian Guy

@Boris_yo Brazilian banks do, at least the 2 I use do and I suspect more do the same

It's all variations of the same suite by Diebold / warsaw.

Boris_yo

2:32 PM

I am aware of virtual network adapter. Some VPNs make it a requirement.

Journeyman Geek

"Diebold"

That Brazilian Guy

Diebold

Diebold was an American financial self-service, security and services corporation. A part of Diebold Nixdorf since August 2016, the entity is internationally engaged primarily in the sale, manufacture, installation and service of self-service transaction systems (such as ATMs), electronic and physical security products (including vaults and currency processing systems), software and related services for global financial and commercial markets. Founded in 1859 in Cincinnati, Ohio as the Diebold Bahmann Safe Company, after becoming incorporated in Ohio in 1876 the company changed its name to Diebold...

bwDraco

@ThatBrazilianGuy: Probably a government regulation. Can you point to any relevant statutes?

Journeyman Geek

eww

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Ditto

That Brazilian Guy

2:33 PM

These names give me PTSD. No, wait, it's just pure vile hatred.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy mine just uses a OTP generator

bwDraco

Me, I do it in private browsing.

Journeyman Geek

but here's the funny thing.

The thing I'd rather not have on my office PC isn't my SE account

That Brazilian Guy

@bwDraco I could, but between profesional fullfillment, winning the lottery, getting a terminal disease and being impaled, browsing legal government documents is quite low on my list.

Journeyman Geek

Its my google account since many things are linked to it

and that's secure

That Brazilian Guy

2:35 PM

@JourneymanGeek Oh my, a sane and relatively non-cumbersome security requirement by a bank!

See, banks of Brazil! Why not be like that?

But nooooooooooo, let's "authenticate your computer". I USE A VM FOR FUCKS SAKE. YOU FORCE ME TO DO IT.

Journeyman Geek

I believe that or sms OTPs are mandatory

That Brazilian Guy

"TO AUTENTHICATE YOUR PC CALL OUR PHONE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND WAIT UP TO 24HS"

They also force you to use either SMS of phone apps.

Physical tokens have been phased out.

What if I don't have a phone?

Paypal takes the cake on that: "looks like you've never used this PC before. we're calling your home number to verify"

NO SHIT SHERLOCK I'VE NEVER USED THIS PC BECAUSE I AM TRAVELING. AND I'M NOT HOME BECAUSE I'M FUCKING TRAVELING.

That's a potential situation ~~because I'm too broke to travel~~ but it infuriates me the same.

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@Boris_yo openvpn is making things simplier for me

and using someone elses vpn != running your own

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I encrypted my own, with keys only I know. Who encrypted yours?

@Boris_yo 24/7 or just while the storm rages? A large battery and unplug the charger is best bet. A surge protector won't stop a direct hit from a lightning strike.

Also, carry cash.

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