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12:00 AM
looks like an encoding issue is preventing that from working on my browser. might be Chrome
they're smart quotes from MS Word I think
 
@JourneymanGeek It’s a key combo in Mac OS X. For this (’) I hit "shift"+"alt/option"+"}/]". For (‘) I hit "alt/option"+"}/]". Similar for (”) and (“) but I hit "{/[" instead.
 
The first character is 0xe2809c. The second character is 0xe2809d. Multibyte UTF-8 characters.
 
ahh k
@allquixotic: Oh, I was wondering if it was a punctuation error too.
I'm typically not to fussy about those
 
12:12 AM
@JourneymanGeek technically they are more correct than standard quotes, because we write quotes in that style when we are writing them in cursive by hand, but using quotes other than the " character these days can often cause confusion in various context... natural language parsers, programming languages, environments that support other character encodings so that they don't encode properly when copying and pasting, etc.
so visually they're better, but they create a number of technical issues depending on where and how they're used
 
I don't use them for that reason. and I turn off the feature of Word that replaces standard quotes with those.
 
I tend to use quotes that look like straight lines unless I'm trying to write fancy
whoot
Got the custodian badge for the late reviews queue ;)
and there's less than 300 there. Should be cleared in a day or three
 
 
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3:08 AM
Headphone fans: The Xiaomi Piston III IEMs are now sold directly by Amazon at US$24.99. No more fakes!
 
lol
@DragonLord: wierdly xiaomi here dosen't have em
 
Uh-oh. Chatbot is down again.
 
fixing
 
I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.
 
Bob
@DragonLord eh... if you knew where to buy them it's pretty easy to get genuine anyway
 
3:11 AM
@allquixotic Command itsafake learned
 
Bob
ibuygou is a genuine seller
 
!!tell 24622434 itsafake
 
I paid about $23.50 each from AMBAY Trading (via Amazon).
Bought two pairs.
The sound is excellent, every bit what I expected.
Still happy with mine.
> If you're looking for the best value for money in IEMs, you simply cannot go wrong with the Pistons. These earbuds look, feel, and sound every bit like a premium product, but at a mere fraction of the price.
Most likely, Amazon started carrying the Pistons directly due to ongoing complaints of fakes from customers.
 
 
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4:49 AM
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@oldmud0 This is precisely why my planned storage server will use double parity.
 
and why I always use RAID10 or RAID1
 
that's what just happened to my home server... one drive failed, didn't have a spare so I ordered a lot of 6 drives twice the size and left the server on degraded state. 2 days later, I wanted to make a current backup of the server... but guess what, the server was down because another drive stopped responding. Can't confirm that it was a fail, but the drive won't even show its basic information.
I'm not touching that second drive until all the new drives arrive in a week
 
That really sucks.
Two drives failing at essentially the same time is a very real risk. That's why I don't consider single-parity RAID to be a robust storage solution.
 
@oldmud0: Raid is not backup
I'd consider most raid levels a little like the black knight
"Tis only a flesh wound!"
 
4:59 AM
Yeah I know
There isn't anything critical on the server, otherwise I would be crying my heart out
 
RAID is not in itself a backup. When properly configured, RAID can provide a high degree of resistance against data loss in the event of disk failure, but it's not a substitute for another copy of the data stored separately from the array.
 
Only thing I'd be concerned about is wasting time recreating config files and such. Also I had whipped up a minimal CMS in PHP for my tiny website.
However, if my desktop's HDD dies...
 
@oldmud0: I'm a big fan of distributed backups
 
(since the array is a backup layer for your desktop)
 
I'd need one NAS, an internal hard drive and an external hard drive dying to lose data
 
5:06 AM
(besides my server weighs like 60lbs and runs win2003, it deserves to die)
 
Ouch. Windows Server 2003 is EOL.
 
Another thing I do? I can survive any one of my systems dying
I can grab the files off the latest backup.
(no raid in sight)
 
and the best part, it's x86 so win2003 is the end of the line for the server, unless I really wanted to put some effort into setting up LVM
 
No 64-bit support, wow. That is outright ancient.
 
5:10 AM
oh no that's not the best part sorry: the motherboard only supports ~1.1 TB of internal storage
it also has 2 serial ports, is missing a bezel, and uses SCSI
 
I suspect the machine doesn't even support PCI Express.
 
and has 512mb of ram?
 
An old rackmount server, eh?
 
nah, it has 1gb ram and supports up to 12 gb (don't ask me how it addresses it). and it's actually a tower, not a rackmounted
DDR1
 
the good part about the drives is that you can find them very easily, although they're increasing in price
ooh scott manley
 
@oldmud0 third level page tables.
In computing, Physical Address Extension (PAE), sometimes referred to as Page Address Extension, is a memory management feature for the IA-32 architecture. PAE was first introduced in the Pentium Pro. It defines a page table hierarchy of three levels, with table entries of 64 bits each instead of 32, allowing these CPUs to access a physical address space larger than 4 gigabytes (232 bytes). The page table structure used by x86-64 CPUs when operating in 64-bit mode further extends the page table hierarchy to four levels, extending the virtual address space, and uses additional physical address bits...
 
Beat me to it.
 
right, PAE..
 
"DDR1"
I think my nuc brix might be marginally more useful and maybe even more powerful...
 
5:16 AM
surprisingly, the server runs with a 3ghz xeon
 
Should I consider using Windows 10 Storage Spaces? Software-defined storage is all the rage these days.
A double-parity storage space needs as many as seven disks, though.
 
No, if it doesn't have any benefit over software RAID, it'd probably become a burden in the future
Well, bye
Hope my 2004 server rots and all my data burns
 
ROTFL
 
Good riddance
 
Someone just linked me this youtu.be/EIiexyn_LNQ?t=21 (big accident at a race in his hometown). Apparently the guy in the car survived...
 
5:30 AM
@DragonLord Good software RAID is all the rage. Until I hear otherwise, ZFS is the only one I'll touch.
 
25 days to go before I have to make a nightmarish server upgrade.
Jul 18 at 5:45, by DragonLord
The next server upgrade is likely to be a nightmare.
 
Jul 18 at 5:47, by DragonLord
The biggest change is openSUSE getting rebased on SUSE Linux Enterprise, rather than the other way around (as with Red Hat Enterprise Linux being based on Fedora).
 
server upgrades for me...
dump the dbs, copy /var/www, do the update. If it fails then reinstall and copy over.
 
Jul 18 at 5:49, by DragonLord
This is likely to result in incompatible changes which could necessitate a complete server rebuild.
Never had to rebuild the production server before.
(My experimental "cloud desktop" server is on openSUSE Tumbleweed and so is not affected by this issue.)
The problem is that there's a huge number of manual configuration changes that need to be carried over to the new server.
 
5:37 AM
hm
 
Fail2ban, Apache, SSH, PHP, databases, the list goes on.
 
I need to talk to the parents about a new microwave
ours seems to have rusted out and sparking
@DragonLord: on ubuntu, I have a fairly well documented process for doing this
That's pretty disturbing
I guess the spambots are being frustrated
 
Operation fails...overload...
Pay attention to the choice of words.
!!/wiki Bayesian poisoning
 
@DragonLord The Gods of Wikipedia did not bless us
Bayesian poisoning is a technique used by e-mail spammers to attempt to degrade the effectiveness of spam filters that rely on Bayesian spam filtering. Bayesian filtering relies on Bayesian probability to determine whether an incoming mail is spam or is not spam. The spammer hopes that the addition of random (or even carefully selected) words that are unlikely to appear in a spam message will cause the spam filter to believe the message to be legitimate—a statistical type II error. Spammers also hope to cause the spam filter to have a higher false positive rate by turning previously innocent words...
 
Whoops.
Autodesk will discontinue perpetual licenses by the end of January 2016 and move to a subscription model: autodesk.com/products/perpetual-licenses/perpetual-licenses-faq
AutoCAD is expensive as hell and developing it costs billions.
Not kidding.
Existing licenses will still work, of course, but upgrade options are affected by this change.
The advantage of this model is that it'll cost considerably less to get started with AutoCAD and subscribers will always stay up to date, but you'll have to keep paying to continue to access the software.
 
6:05 AM
I'd say this makes more sense for such specialized and extraordinarily expensive software as AutoCAD than it does for Photoshop and other more mainstream software (as Adobe did with the Creative Cloud).
On the subject of openSUSE again, Leap 42.1 is 64-bit only. 32-bit systems will not be supported. (This isn't an issue as my servers have been 64-bit from the start.)
 
6:19 AM
lol
also sounds vaguely threatening, in a very rampant AI sort of way
 
Bob
@oldmud0 your "3ghz xeon" is probably significantly weaker than my phone...
Clock rate alone is a terrible measure of performance
 
 
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Bob
9:24 AM
@DavidPostill If it helps, apparently Windows calls that the "profile". I found a PS command for it. Still looking for a more direct command prompt way.
 
0_0
So, I've been planning a specific MGS V mission for... a week (I got frustrated). You're supposed to steal a truck guarded by 2 tanks... and 4 super soldiers.
 
@bob Good find
 
I try mining the place. I blow up the truck. I try hitting the super soldiers with RPGs... no effect...
I do a road block with a jeep, die, then realise I can block the road with a truck... die while realising the two tanks arn't shooting at me....
I steal a tank (for the first time) the next attempt... blow the super soldiers to smitereens, steal both tanks and the truck... and... I got a S rank on that mission. Score.
 
Bob
o.O
 
9:55 AM
Hehe. We have a user who is a) trying to bypass blocks on his parents (router?) firewall and b) bypass and stop Pulseway monitering his PC as his institution uses it. I wonder what he is really up to?
 
Bob
@DavidPostill Probably certain 18+ material? :P
Ah... Minecraft... close enough.
 
You found him ;)
 
Bob
Having experienced similar filters in the past, with many many false positives, I do feel his pain, assuming said game was not an intended block.
But then it's up to him to talk to his parents about it.
 
That's what I told him. He wasn't too pleased ;)
 
crl
If I have 2 User (admin) accounts Foo and Bar, if basically I rename Foo in Bar2 then Bar in Foo then Bar2 in Bar, would I switch the Desktop, Documents etc.. without damaging anything?
 
Bob
10:08 AM
@crl ...XY problem.
Why would you want to do that?
You'd likely end up with a massive mess of permissions.
 
crl
because I have an account that load fastly (the new one, and another a bit fucked up)
 
Bob
I'm reasonably sure the account SID does not change on rename.
 
crl
oh right permissions, didn't think of that, thanks good points, I'll rather move files
 
Bob
@crl Can you just delete and recreate the old one?
Copy anything you need to keep.
%AppData% for most settings.
 
crl
@Bob yes will do that, but it had 200G :(
 
Bob
10:10 AM
Can also copy registry-based settings but that's a bit harder.
Alternatively, check the user-specific startup and see if there's anything obvious there that would cause a slowdown.
 
crl
yes AppData of course
yes msconfig, services, planned tasks, etc..
 
Bob
Unfortunately, "it's slow" is rather hard to troubleshoot.
@crl Autoruns might help.
I don't think MSConfig shows user-specific startup entries.
 
crl
well, yesterday, I optimized everything in the new user account, I thought it would optimized and modify things for the other ones, but no :(, stupid me (only services and 'msconfig' remained)
ok, let's do that , thanks
 
Bob
@crl The giant profile might have something to do with it, actually. 200 GB is pretty big.
I wonder what's enumerated on login.
Desktop would be one.
 
crl
10:28 AM
hmm, I have moved a folder (Videos 65Go) of c:\Users\oldaccount to c:\backup, then I thought it was just a shortcut (because it went fast) so I deleted it, now I can't restore it
tried ctrl+z, and the bin is empty
ctrl+z could have worked, but I switched of parent folder, well that's just videos
 
Bob
Uh.
Deletion speed usually corresponds to number of files. Not size.
So... unless you have another copy, they're gone.
You might be able to recover it... but you'd be left with undelete-type recovery.
Which basically means pull the plug out now and stop using that computer.
Then boot off a different disk and recover to a different disk because otherwise you risk overwriting what's now marked as "empty" space.
 
crl
youtube.com/watch?v=32FQNEc_ZYw saved me, folder>properties>previous versions
 
Bob
10:47 AM
Huh, shadow copies.
Lucky one.
 
11:00 AM
hello everyone, noob here.
i've got a question, for which i can't manage to google an answer.
if openssh is a suite of utilities for network administration, then what does "connect to openssh mean?". i am using Ubuntu Desktop as host, and installing now Ubuntu Server on a virtual machine in order to setup a server there and somehow administer it remotely, but i don't now yet how to do it.
anyway, could "connect to openssh" mean that i can connect via terminal in my host OS, Ubuntu Desktop, to this virtual OS, Ubuntu Server?
note: all this stuff's sole purpose is to learn to setup a server and do things with it.
 
Bob
@bestwishes It would mean connecting to sshd from the OpenSSH collection, usually distributed under the openssh-server package on Debian & Ubuntu.
openssh-server is the most common implementation of an SSH server, but not the only one.
OpenSSH is effectively the de facto standard for both the client and server nowadays.
 
@Bob so, in order to access the server on virtual machine, i need to have openssh-server there and openssh-client on my main OS? and then, from terminal, i could connect there?
 
Bob
@bestwishes Yes.
 
okay, this is more or less what i wanted to know, because in all the guides it is like authors suppose that a reader already knows where his/her server will be. i don't have any old computers for this purpose, so i needed to know if it works with virtual machines..
thank you :)
 
Bob
11:17 AM
@bestwishes I would recommend you look into public and private keys, though. Password login has no place in 2015.
 
@Bob yes, i've already read about this type of authentication, this is an important part of how ssh works.
 
Bob
11:34 AM
@Bob It's not fundamental to SSH, but it does greatly improve security.
 
@Bob maybe it's a stupid question, but may i, after installing sshd on a server, install apache, mysql there and work with them through ssh?
 
 
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Bob
1:21 PM
@bestwishes Yes. SSH just gives you a way to connect via a remote terminal.
Specifically, it allocates a pty, and most (all?) programs will interact with the remote pty the same as a local pty.
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Q: What are pseudo terminals (pty/tty)?

hariThis might be really basic question but I want to understand it thoroughly. What is a pseudo terminal? (tty/pty) Why do we need them? How they got introduced and what was the need for it? Are they outdated? Do we not need them anymore? Is there anything that replaced them? Any useful use-case?...

 
2:17 PM
hm
Was chat really slow for a bit? I had trouble logging on
 
2:50 PM
@Bob Is that going to be a oh no or a oh yes ?
 
Bob
@HackToHell Oh no.
 
I use lastpass for some bloody critical passwords
 
Bob
Well, for you guys.
I'll be happily using KeePass over here.
 
blah have to switch to keepas then -.-
 
Bob
LogMeIn has been known to spontaneously discontinue free offerings in the past.
1-week warning with one, apparently.
Maybe they won't pull that again. Who knows.
Still, something to be aware of. Have a backup plan in place.
Also, treat your passwords just like any other data: have a backup that you control.
 
 
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Bob
4:06 PM
?!?!
Album art on Spotify local files seems to be a rather large helping of magic.
Why on earth is everyone going on about using itunes as a freakin' intermediary?
Is a set of required specs I can use in mp3tag too much to ask for?
"The Solution was to copy all MP3's into a different folfer and then import them."
????????????????
... ... ... it actually worked
wtf?
how on...
 
Is it worth paying 100€ more for a Yoga laptop with a GeForce 940M? Or is the Intel HD 5500 good enough if you're only using it for web browsing, office, etc.?
 
Bob
@slhck Latter, IMO. What's the resolution?
 
@Bob 1080p
 
Bob
@slhck Should be perfectly fine.
 
4:21 PM
Basically deciding between cyberport.at/… and cyberport.at/…
Sorry, German only, but the specs are there
 
Bob
I've got a 3200x1600 laptop w/ Intel HD Graphics 4600.
 
The SSHD should be fine, too, I suppose.
 
Bob
(It also has a 860M, but that spends most of its time switched off.)
 
@Bob Yeah, I guess, I mean if you're really not using it for gaming… not a big reason to have a fancy graphics card.
 
Bob
Huh, 4600 benchmarks higher than 5500 => videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2451&cmp[]=2908
@slhck Hmm... up to you.
Note that SSHDs tend to include something like 4 GB NAND.
Very little.
You'll have some slight performance boost, but it depends on how you use it.
@slhck Intel IGPs should be able to handle anything up to 1080p video.
Some light gaming if you wanted, and don't mind lower framerates :P
But certainly should be enough for office use.
 
4:25 PM
The laptop is not for me anyway, but I don't think there's a need for ultra high performance.
 
Bob
Heck, they handle three displays just fine last I checked, assuming you have enough ports.
 
Saving 120€ sounds like a good option then.
 
Bob
@slhck Note that the dedicated GPU comes with 2GB VRAM.
The IGP will share system RAM.
That probably doesn't matter that much at 1080p, though. Especially if gaming isn't involved.
 
Yup, but that should be fine I guess.
 
Bob
And switchable graphics on a laptop is often more trouble than it's worth...
(tends to be buggy at times)
 
4:27 PM
Hmm, I see.
Oh, and the SSHD can be replaced anyway.
Like, if it turns out to be a bottleneck. Which I really doubt.
 
Bob
@slhck I'm reasonably sure the SSHD will be the bottleneck on that system.
Doesn't mean it's not enough to handle light use. But it will be the slowest part.
 
Yup, that was my main worry. But for the 120€ saved I can easily get an SSD later.
 
Bob
Looks like disassembly isn't too hard: laptopultra.com/guide/lenovo-yoga-3-14-disassembly
@slhck I guess other disadvantage of SSHD is that it's a spinning disk in a laptop. Some increased risk of failure. Still very minor, though.
 
@Bob Eh, that's like… one step :P
 
I thought the SSHDs main use was to get the OS up and running quickly and then hand over to the spinning rust for the rest
Heya @slhck @Bob
 
4:33 PM
@Mokubai Hey there!
 
@slhck How've you been?
 
Bob
@Mokubai An SSHD is a tiny NAND cache (~4 GB, bigger than standard DRAM cache of ~64 MB but smaller than even a 32 GB external SSD cache) with a backing HDD in the same package and a fancy label slapped on top.
IMO, mostly marketing fluff.
The cache in a SSHD is completely transparent to the OS, AFAIK.
So it doesn't treat OS boot any differently from other program loads.
@Mokubai Hi, and g'night :P
 
@Mokubai Pretty good! Well, I've found myself checking in here only for shopping advice, but I don't have a lot of time to just hang around in chat or on the site :( But other than that, work is going fine, it's gotten pretty interesting
 
Bob
*goes back to sleep*
 
@Bob Mostly marketting, sure. But if there's enough to get past the first stage boot and to the desktop then it's a win for speed
 
4:35 PM
What about you, @Mokubai?
@Bob Thanks for your shopping advice!
 
Bob
@Mokubai Problem with such a small cache is it's very easy for data to be pushed out.
 
@slhck Not bad, work is progressing... seen a couple of flags from you and in all honesty it felt weird. ;)
 
Bob
Unless you do something very frequently I think you'd probably not get much benefit out of it.
 
@Mokubai Haha, I know, right?
But it feels nice to be more on the "user seeking help" part again. Although I miss writing up answers… and cleaning up the site, of course.
 
Bob
Hm, apparently some SSHDs do treat boot data specially. Probably assuming you keep the default layout... I wonder what a Win10 upgrade would do to that.
 
4:39 PM
Okay, I've got to go again. I'll see you around, @Mokubai. G'night, @Bob
 
Bob
@slhck 'night
Will probably have to fix Spotify in the morning.
Later morning.
 
@slhck Have fun!
 
Bob
Maybe noon.
 
@Bob That was what I assumed was the case. I had wondered if there was some "retraining" trigger that could say "work out the cache from the next boot"
 
Bob
@Mokubai Yea, you're probably right. I'd like to see some long-term testing, but that's obviously difficult.
Caches always appear to work in the short term.
A week of use later, and you've forgotten about it completely... Then who knows.
 
4:43 PM
Urgh. Gotta wait 2 days for new phone now :(
 
Bob
@Mokubai Oh, which phone?
 
S6 Edge +
Us manky Europeans aren't allowed the Note5 according to Sammy.
I was going to boycott, but I like shineys...
 
Bob
@Mokubai Heh, I went LG G4.
It has MicroSD support! And removable battery!
It also feels a whole lot smoother than my S4, though apparently TouchWiz has been getting better in recent versions.
 
Aye, I do lament the loss of those features, but I love the AMOLED displays
 
Bob
My primary Android phone was previously Samsung (S2, S4), but removal of MicroSD is too much.
I don't like the lack of physical buttons on the G4. I don't like how the soft-buttons are on the screen, taking up space.
But I'll adapt.
And I can adapt.
Unlike the physically missing card slot.
@Mokubai I'm 50-50 on that. AMOLED is a hell of a battery hog.
 
4:49 PM
@Bob That does seem to be a feature Samsung aren't giving up on
@Bob and there is where I'll adapt, went for the 64GB version and enough data that I shouldn't need to worry too much
 
Bob
@Mokubai I'm actually finding myself kinda liking the double-tap-to-wake.
So it's mostly the soft-buttons that are annoying now.
 
That's another thing I'd like
 
Bob
@Mokubai I need the card slot for other things.
e.g. Titanium Backup goes there.
 
@Bob I can do tf2 running at 1080p with max settings at a decent 30 fps on the hd 4400
 
Bob
@HackToHell "decent"
 
4:51 PM
It was 30 ;p
 
Bob
20 is... frankly, atrocious
 
@Bob I'm not that much of a modder/tinkerer so onboard is usually fine
 
Bob
I'm reasonably sure I can get that via RDP.
(well, no... tried CS1.6 via RDP at one point, over LAN, and got ~5-6fps)
@Mokubai I did decide not to import my whole music library this time, so I actually have too much space now :P
 
@Bob get yourself an nvidia card and GameStreaming can do it at 60fps...
 
RDP is horrible, stupid Azure allows only that
And connecting to something 300ms away is hell
 
Bob
4:52 PM
Previously used a 16 GB phone + 16 GB card, then 32 GB card. Now 32 GB phone + 64 GB card.
@Mokubai Steam streaming can anyway. But I don't like using it.
 
My Note3 currently has 32 +64 and my entire music collection on it
 
I have a 2gb,4gb,8gb,16 gb card
 
Bob
And I do have an Nvidia card, it's just a generation too old (GTX 560) for NVENC :P
 
Got a incremental sd card with newer phones :D
 
Bob
@HackToHell RDP is amazing. Have you ever tried to use VNC over that same connection?
Heck, as far as VM management goes it's still far, far better than VMware remote console.
God forbid you ever need to use the iDRAC console. Other IPMI implementations probably aren't any better.
 
4:54 PM
If that's amazing, shudders
yeah, I tried NoMachine and it sucked as well
sees a removed post
bangs head on table
 
Bob
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One neat thing with the nvenc stuff is that you can seemingly accelerate RDP over the network as well
 
Bob
@Mokubai Really? Didn't think RDP used H.264.
 
bang
 
Bob
Maybe partially.
There's smarter drawing going on though.
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4:57 PM
Is going to make a bot to do this
sad bang
 
If only VNC was smarter than this...
(Proprietary implementations have more advanced algorithms but they're patent-encumbered)
 
@Bob Chuck the mstsc.exe in the "Shield" preferences page and you'll get your desktop sent over the network as a full stream...
 
After all, there has to be a source for business. It's damn near impossible to distinguish your product and make it salable if it didn't have proprietary, protected features.
 
not really RDP...
 
RDP has semantics and so it's much smarter.
It doesn't dumbly move pixels over the network the way VNC does.
X11 forwarding has semantics, too, but it's very inefficient because it just sends a stream of raw X draw calls over the network, many of which (especially in older apps) are synchronous and require lots of network round-trips.
 
5:30 PM
@DragonLord You have Pentax mirrorless?
 
 
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6:33 PM
@Boris_yo No, K-mount. I don't shoot the Q system, nor do I have the K-01.
 
 
3 hours later…
9:04 PM
It's Big Media and Big Pharma's dream come true, and a nightmare for the people as a whole, if it passes
The people lack the means to fight it. It's a matter of lobbying money.
Money is power, and power is money.
 
9:21 PM
Perhaps a big fundraiser ($100M+ goal) is in order?
The only real solution is to fight fire with fire. Corporate lobbyists have tens of millions to spend.
Any opposition will have to be on a similar scale to have a reasonable shot at succeeding.
Nobody is around here on weekends this time of day...
 
9:36 PM
yesterday, by allquixotic
*drums up some noise*
 
Wakes up ;)
Maybe everyone was watching the Rugby World Cup?
 
@HackToHell: if nomachine sucks, most protocols will
nomachine's insanely efficient
 
I watched all 3 games. 3 more tomorrow.
 
@DragonLord Along the same vein as my previously pinned message, I've pinned yours
@Bob weird. well LogMeIn has a big enterprise presence so hopefully they don't fuck up Marvasol (parent company behind LastPass and Xmarks)
Been a Marvasol customer since Foxmarks
 
singapore's pretty enthusiastic about it :/
and well, government did unexpectedly well in the last election so there's no real roadblocks to it
 
9:51 PM
how does a government do well in an election? I thought electees would do well in an election - people
 
Well, the PAP has won every election
As a whole folk tend to look at the popular vote (they went up almost 10%) and seats won (they won back one seat they lost , and held the former opposition stronghold they won the last election).
They have enough of a majority to push through whatever they want
and PAP tends to fight elections as a whole, rather than per candidate, partially cause of the multi seat ward system we have.
 
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