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12:09 AM
@JourneymanGeek That Excel question was harder than I originally though, but I figured it out! :D
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ? what is this?
(can't watch vids right now)
 
I think it's that hairy landing from a couple days ago. Just a lot of wind blowing the plane around.
 
boo
samba shares on phoebe broke again :/
and I changed something and broke it more
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek now I'm considering renaming that container when I (finally get around to) migrate it
but I like the name :\
 
@Bob On my server, this weekend, I'll run lxc clone gp phoebe just to further muddy the waters :D
 
Bob
12:22 AM
lol
@allquixotic we're gonna have to start namespacing our VMs :P
JMG:phoebe
Bob:phoebe
allquixotic:phoebe
 
LOL
or FQDNs ;p
 
12:47 AM
(I've half jokingly considered just giving all my boxen AAAA records ;p)
 
AAA?
wouldn't it be A (IPv4) or AAAA (IPv6)?
 
Bob
@allquixotic Nah, he obviously wants to insure them.
 
oops
*has been up since 5.30. Roomie woke me up cause that's when his latest girlfriend (who's a street dog) is around ><)
 
Bob
27
Q: How can common users defend against the StageFright vulnerability?

S.L. BarthI was just informed of the StageFright vulnerability in Android devices. A specially crafted MMS message can gain access to data on the phone; so presumably it's a buffer overflow with subsequent privilege escalation. Details have not yet been disclosed, but the practical question is: how can ...

 
1:05 AM
0
Q: solar system is really free?

Richardone of my friend said he has solar system on the roof of his house and it is free installation and no payment on the system. Just pay set amount monthly to solar company. I did not believe. Is there some one can explain how that solar system company doing business. what is the consumer's benefits...

wut?
 
Bob
PSA: Android users should disable automated MMS downloads until security patches are released & installed.
11
Hm... should I pin that?
 
cant even get MMS on my phone without the Data thing running, as the text seems to go though one way, and that can be aquired without the multimeida part.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Yep, the point is to disable downloading the multimedia part.
Since that is a significant attack vector that the user has no other control over.
Ok, I'm pinning it.
 
I always had the auto downloading of MM on, just because who the freak needs MMSpam :-)
 
@Bob I can't even get MMS to work on my phone :P
 
1:12 AM
That just leaves when a texter specifically states they are sending a pic that they themselves took?
 
Bob
@NathanOsman Probably a network provider issue, but MMS is pretty dodgy in the first place.
 
So the vulnerability then would be pretty complex, the sender would have to have a virus on thier machine that embeds the vulnerability onto thier pics before sent?
 
@Psycogeek The vulnerability isn't just with receiving MMS, but how the MMS is process once it's on the phone.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Nup. That's one way, spreading as a virus. But attackers can also send to random numbers directly.
 
@Bob It makes email look reliable in comparison.
 
Bob
1:15 AM
@MichaelFrank Not really. The vulnerability is specifically with how video (3GPP) files are processed. MMS is one vector for infection, and particularly dangerous because it can happen with zero user interaction, but MMS itself doesn't contain the vuln.
(so, second part of your statement is right. first part, not quite)
 
@Bob right but the question is, other than spreading specifically crafted MMS, does it go to the point where any viruses are so complex as to craft the crap to a regular persons pic of thier kids they took 2 seconds ago?
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Once it's downloaded and run through the vulnerable library, the attacker has full control (in the worst case).
One suggested attack involves doing this overnight and auto-deleting the message. The victim would never notice.
 
Windows 10 out ?
Doesn't show up in MSDN
 
@Bob making that good enough that , the hacker could be the one claiming they are sending you a pic to begin with. that is pretty seriously involved, like the hacker would have to have A) something to prove B) somone to hate :-)
 
Bob
@Psycogeek well, once you disable auto-retrieve it basically becomes email-style anti-spam: don't open any attachments you aren't expecting
 
1:19 AM
0
Q: 4K videos on YouTube are a little choppy on high-end specs

Trought BrantI've watched various videos, and it's the latest version of Flash and all appropriate settings. I turn the videos up to 4K (2160P) and they chop a little bit ... like every frame isn't smoothly seen. Also, I am using a 50 MB internet connection, but the video buffers non-stop and barely plays. ...

 
@HackToHell Not sure. @DragonLord hasn't posted a big bold message stating it's out yet... so maybe not?
 
Oh wow, lenovo released drivers for my laptop for windows 10 <3
 
@HackToHell because while evryone is going crasy for RES, they have entirely forgot about frame rates? I hate that, the general concentration is on more of one, and we still dont have 60FPS video, which IMO should have come first, and yet barely even exists anywhere.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek But... but.... cinematic experience! /s
 
You mean like fight scenes where it is just a blur , after all that work on the set for HD, then all the coreography for days, i get 3 blurred frames. Well its not like they ever hit anything anyways :-)
The queasy cam stuff also looks a lot better when there is more FPS too, It just all seems so odd to me that for 50 years we have struggled with horrible frame rates and Grain in film. 50 years later when we can basically present a Eye View of what is going on, they add IN grain , and reduce the frame rate, cause it looks like film.
But film was always the "limitation" of representing stuff.
 
1:37 AM
How the hell do you get 1GB of data into your roaming profile folder when the limit is 30MB?
 
Bob
Hmmmm apparently Mozilla might have patched it back in FF 38 o.O
I thought they only patches FF OS
s/patches/patched/
hmmm
looks like this might not apply to android
 
oh so stagefright is the Feature :-) and the vulnerabilty. dont they need a name then for the hack? StageFrightTerror?
 
Bob
@Psycogeek ha, rather unfortunate name
 
yea that
 
2:02 AM
T minus 2 hours to the launch of Windows 10.
 
Prepares fireworks...
 
Launch? My system already downloaded it..
Er, well, it's almost done downloading...
 
dig foxholes, prepare for bombshells. Like: "i thought you said that bug was all about it being a pre-releace"
 
I won't be up to finish the whole countdown.
 
@DragonLord REALLY?! This is the last version of Windows. EVER!!!
 
2:05 AM
@MichaelHampton How'd you jump the queue? :P
 
@NathanOsman I didn't? Your system should already have downloaded it, if you left it turned on and connected to the Internet today.
Look for a hidden folder C:\$Windows.~BT
 
Bob
And decided to sign up for it.
 
I dual boot and am using Ubuntu right now, so it won't have :P
 
Bob
I'm still waiting a couple months till I have time to deal with potential issues...planning a clean install on the desktop.
 
superuser.com/questions/946621/… <-- needs just one more spam flag
 
2:07 AM
@Bob It's interesting.. the download includes driver updates
 
Bob
Need to pick up my new backup hdd I keep forgetting about too
 
I've got an updated Intel HD Graphics driver, an updated Synaptics trackpad driver and an updated Intel gigabit Ethernet driver
 
Bob
I might try the upgrade install, but only after a full image
 
Looks like they're trying to make it smooth
 
Bob
Been neglecting that for lack of space recently :/
 
Anonymous
2:09 AM
oh god
 
Anonymous
hello @MichaelHampton!
 
Setup will also warn you if you have incompatible programs before you upgrade
 
@MichaelHampton now thats seriously prepared.
 
Anonymous
how long!
 
Bob
@Michael try to warn
 
2:10 AM
The GWX tool will tell you also
Mostly the incompatible stuff is going to be AV software and things like that
 
Bob
Did I mention my desktop's drivers are just generally screwed up?
 
joy. I won't know till I get home from work ;p
 
So how do I save bandwidth if I have three machines to upgrade?
 
Bob
Upgrading will either fix it our break everything
 
I don't want to download the 3+ GB of data three times over my 1 Mbps connection...
 
2:13 AM
@NathanOsman Supposedly, after you upgrade the first PC it will offer to let you burn an ISO or make a USB stick
 
That I must do.
 
It also supposedly does P2P sharing over your LAN
I haven't been able to verify that, though
 
I'll see what happens I guess.
 
Anonymous
@MichaelHampton are you going to upgrade day-one?
 
@PatoSΓ‘inz Yeah. Then I'm going to take the hard drive out and shoot it
 
Bob
2:15 AM
o.O
 
Anonymous
surely the NSA can recover data from shot drives
 
Well, it's getting replaced with an SSD...if the SSD ever shows up!
 
Anonymous
@MichaelHampton so how has everything been going in your life and at Slack!
 
Anonymous
@Bob well I use CyanogenMod nightlies so I guess I'm as patched as I can get
 
2:17 AM
@MichaelHampton: This is why I am glad I have good local stores
I can wait months to afford a bit of hardware. Shipping drives me nuts
 
@JourneymanGeek So, in the US there are some shipping programs where UPS or FedEx will ship your package fast, and then hand it off to the post office in your town to actually deliver it. These services end up being very slow for some reason...
 
Anonymous
@JourneymanGeek same as you: but I'm lazy enough to have something shipped to me (with 3 days delay) from a store that's 35 minutes away in an underground trip
 
Anonymous
I just ordered some RF circuit from China and it's going to get here in approximately 25 days... shipping sucks
 
My package was at a distribution center down the road on Sunday and still hasn't arrived. It was just handed to USPS today...
I'll count myself lucky if it arrives tomorrow
...Actually I'm not sure if it was handed to USPS today
 
I'm almost done with the Windows 10 download. The main 2.7 GB image has finished downloading.
 
2:25 AM
I'm done, at 5.60 GB
 
Anonymous
ehh strange... @MichaelHampton is GWX supposed to begin autodownloading now? Mine hasn't done anything yet
 
@MichaelHampton: for most hardware? I take a train, and within an hour or two I'm at home, screwdriver in hand ;p
 
@PatoSΓ‘inz It will, sooner or later
 
Anonymous
well at least I upgraded my home to fibre optic so it won't take two days to download 5 gigs
 
@JourneymanGeek You live in a major city where all the tech gets shipped through anyway. There's no need for you to have anything shipped.
 
Bob
2:37 AM
> Tue 28 Jul 2015 17:14

Shipping information approved by Australia PostOpen tool tip

Wed 22 Jul 2015 06:35

Shipping information received by Australia Post
Urk
 
They got all the way across the US in almost record time for ground shipping and then 70 miles from my house all the delays start
 
plus it still has to be shipped to arizona , just because no package shipped across the continent should miss falling in the grand canyon.
 
Bob
> Latest update: Thursday, Jul 23
4:14 PM
Package arrived at a carrier facility
US
Wednesday, Jul 22
12:07 PM
Shipment departed from Amazon facility
Hebron, KY, US
Tuesday, Jul 21
11:21 AM
Shipment arrived at Amazon facility
Hebron, KY, US
9:18 AM
Package has left seller facility and is in transit to carrier
Same package, different tracking site
 
@Bob Looks like it departed the country.
 
@Psycogeek You joke about this... but I bought something from Massdrop once and it got all the way to LA before somehow making it's way back to Arizona and getting lost.
I had to email Massdrop and they sent out another product to me.
 
Bob
2:48 AM
@MichaelFrank ah, massdrop... Their tracking is basically blank for the better part of a month and then it randomly turns up at the doorstep
 
@Bob How was that supposed to be shipped?
 
Bob
@MichaelHampton Amazon standard
 
@Bob Hmm. Is your tracking number two letters, a bunch of numbers, then "US"?
 
Bob
Usually goes through i-parcel (UPS) but this one went through auspost somehow
@MichaelHampton nah, 8 digits, auspost tracking number, 0, 4-digit postcode
 
@Bob That's kind of odd...
You can try putting in your tracking number at usps.com and see if it shows anything there. If it's arriving by auspost then USPS probably touched it at some point.
 
Bob
2:55 AM
Apparently auspost has their own branded parcel forwarder from the US now, operated by singpost
 
Shipping is getting crazy
 
Bob
This might be going through that
Anyway, it's due next week, so not really complaining... Just slightly dodgy tracking
 
@Bob I'd try that tracking number at usps.com again, ... without deleting any digits.
 
Bob
Can't get anything shipped fast from US without spending far too much
 
Er, delete the postcode, but not the first 8 digits
@Bob Not these days. I used to be able to ship fairly cheap, at least for small packets. But those days seem to be over.
 
Bob
3:01 AM
Nup, tried full number, and deleting the last 4 and 5
@MichaelHampton the other way is even more ridiculous
Cost over $100 to return a convertible laptop to Amazon. At least they covered the shipping fees.
 
Anonymous
I think we people in South America get the worst... long wait times AND sometimes shipping costs >18 USD
 
@Bob The USPS code should be exactly 22 digits long. Try the first 22 digits, and then try dropping the first 2 digits and providing the next 22 digits.
 
Anonymous
hell a tshirt from American Apparel is cheaper than its shipping
 
Bob
Depending on the item, $18 is positively cheap... Though we are further away
 
It costs me $25 to send a small (2kg) packet to Australia
 
Bob
3:05 AM
@MichaelHampton other way via auspost is 40AUD by sea, 56AUD by air
 
@Bob Completely insane, either way
 
@MichaelHampton precisely
Except for my speakers ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek can you nuke this superuser.com/questions/946621/…
gone!
 
Just to note, things are extremely xplody at work, so I might not really pay attention here ;p
 
4:13 AM
 
4:30 AM
To solve the problem of Fake Apps in the microsoft store, microsoft has asked all legitimate apps to remove themselves from the store, so they be seperated from the scams and shams.
 
4:42 AM
We routinely review apps based on performance, fake ratings and fraudulent user reviews and take steps to remove apps if they do not meet our certification guidelines, of sending us $100. We are aware of the issue and are actively removing a few apps that offer little money to us, or confuse customers, by not paying up. We will continue evaluating our collection process to make sure Windows offers the highest app quantity available, reguardless of any functionality.
(actually they removed 1500 apps once, and 100 or so at various other times, the above is only a parody)
 
5:06 AM
@Bob hi! I've posted a question regarding UEFI boot. Would be an honor if you could take a look. You don't have to answer it but i would appreciate if I'm making my question clear
http://superuser.com/questions/946547/boot-loadergrub-not-recognized-in-partition-along-with-windows-boot-manager
@Bob I mean, "would appreciate if you could comment on whether I made my question clear enough"
 
5:26 AM
Reservation not working? 80240020 your unlucky number? Get an ISO microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
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@MichaelHampton Are those good for upgrades?
 
5:55 AM
@NathanOsman Er, yes?
 
Hmm... so now I have a dilemma... one of the machines has started downloading the update. Do I cancel and grab the ISO or hope that the machine gives me that option later?
Such decision. So Microsoft.
 
@NathanOsman And hope the update actually works, which it probably won't.
 
That does it.
OH WAIT.
Stupid me - I just realized something.
The first machine has a 32-bit copy and the other machines are 64-bit.
Yeah, I better just grab the ISO.
 
6:22 AM
I'm going to pin the windows 10 link ;p
 
Is there an easy way to go from a 32-bit Windows installation to a 64-bit installation? Obviously an upgrade won't work but I'm thinking along the lines of product keys here. I've had really bad experiences in the past with product keys when reinstalling an OS.
I've got a licensed copy of Windows 8.1 but it's a 32-bit installation. I'd like to do a clean 64-bit install of Windows 10.
O_o
Where'd he come from?
 
@NathanOsman Product keys aren't distinguished by architecture. So you can use a 64-bit 8.1 with your existing product key.
But you have to upgrade to Windows 10 once on a device before you can clean install to it.
 
What? That's lame.
This is a really old and slow machine. That doesn't really accomplish anything for me then.
 
I'm just going to do the upgrade and then nuke it. Problem solved.
 
I want to avoid downloading the 32-bit ISO / upgrade files.
But it doesn't look like there's a way to do that... :(
 
6:35 AM
Then do a clean install of 64-bit 8.1 and upgrade that.
 
Hmm... now there's an idea.
 
You should upgrade the hardware first amazon.com/ECS-A960M-MV-Socket-MicroATX-Motherboard/dp/… good deal here , Free shipping
 
It's a netbook. Not gonna happen :P
 
Bob
6:56 AM
> This item ships to Sydney, Australia.
How nice of them.
@do_os Hm, looks pretty clear to me. I prefer to summarise my core question in 1-2 bold sentences at the end if it's a long question.
 
@Bob thanks for your comment
 
Bob
Hmm... these look suspiciously similar to the Anker cables. Except they actually ship to AU.
Worth a shot, I guess.
Heh, random Chinese Android phone named "doogee"
("dodgy")
 
@Bob no they pretty much look like crap
 
Bob
@Psycogeek They look exactly the same as the Anker ones.
And I have those.
And they are quite honestly the best USB cables I've used.
 
Them anker things you pointed to seem to have thick (insulation) wires
 
Bob
7:10 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they made these in the same factory.
 
Really most of this crap has nothing but thick insulation :-) i guess the price of plastic vinyl will never be more than Putting Good Copper in the dang things.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Well, they claim 20AWG.
I'll give them a shot, at least. If it charges @ 2A, I'm happy. If not, I'll cut one open and take a look.
I don't think they're lying, though... while not really known, apparently the Tronsmart chargers are alright. (according to people I trust)
And they really seem to be trying to be an Anker clone :P
 
When they sold gold in the country , first it was gold plated, then it was steel core :-) if you look inside scrape the edge of the wire strands , to see what is real.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Even if it ends up being Al rather than Cu, as long as it's 20 AWG it's good enough for 2A over 2m
 
I swear only a mere few years ago, every wire i could go out and buy was like pure copper, stuff everywhere just did. Now everything i go out and buy looks like copper , has a copper skin but is not.
I had to get antenna wire from some place in europe , which was like the last place on earth that sold RG with real all copper, and even then it was not the greatest.
 
Bob
7:18 AM
@Psycogeek ...have you considered that you're just going to the wrong shops? o.O
 
That and these $350 cables , that the only thing about them that needed to exist was some good copper, and a good sheild.
@Bob I know where to get it, but the consumer is who buys 99.8% of this and sets the market for everything.
They wouldnt know a Celeron from a pentium a IPS from a TF or a coated wire from a copper one, so what ends up being readily available?
chit , , chit , , chit
 
Bob
@Psycogeek The local(ish) hobby shop sells all types :P
Actually, I don't know any electronics shop that carries wire but not copper wire.
 
well remember our radioshacks , which always were selling china crap, and eventually i could buy stuff from china that would be better built, closed down. the monopoly radio shack had done a good job of taking out the electronics shops before that.
And Online Rules , because you can still get everything, soo there goes the rest of the brick & mortar, except for the highway robbery, Best Buy charging on average 1/3rd more money for packaged china crap. $25 for cheap cable (one).
this last year we lost our hobby shop (12 miles away) I tell ya who goes outside :-) to play hobbies, the computer does it all, including simulating RC controlled cars etc
I dont live in a big city, as the really big cities are 40 miles. but i sure dont live in a swamp in alabama :-) it is like right next to silicon valley, where they (what) design everything, not build anything :-)
We had a compUsa and computer city , all gone. and i shopped at those places constant.
Plus in reality they did not seem to be hurting for business, 2/3rds parking lot, and a constant flow of customers. It had to be an investment merger type of thing that really took them out.
 
7:57 AM
Ex: bestbuy.com/site/… And notice how they too now have a "marketplace" a who knows where your buying from on thier online stuff, that surely would eventually hurt thier own business.
 
@Psycogeek: Heh. My local radioshack equivilent is family owned.
hm. the ttrss update script died silently again
 
8:22 AM
superuser.com/questions/946751/… <-- seriously dave 18K rep doesnt know by now not to edit out the spam?
superuser.com/questions/946746/… <---severely off topic , suspected to be spam set-up?
 
I'll be leaving for letitroll.eu shortly \o/
 
@OliverSalzburg and you going to bring back a few good pictures?
 
@Psycogeek Hopefully
 
Bob
8:57 AM
@OliverSalzburg what's a leti troll?
 
@Bob It's explained on the website
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg 'twas a joke :P
 
@Bob I know ;)
 
zat pun
wait. Its not a link to a rick roll?
 
 
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10:10 AM
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Q: In Windows 10, Google Music stutters when using IntelliJ

CrummyToday I updated to Windows 10, and now when I'm typing in IntelliJ IDEA 14.1.4 my music stutters in Google Music in Chrome 45. The issue did not occur prior to the upgrade, and does not occur with Power Save mode enabled in IntelliJ. It occurs with Google Music playing using Flash, and with HTML...

Hey it is barely out of beta :-) give them a chance .
According to about 6 expert but long time users of winder programs, we shouldn't touch the messy buggy thing (it even crashes) until . . . . Well until all the rest of the Bold and Beutifull people get thier hands on it and find all the problems.
Give Em Hell!
 
10:48 AM
IntelliJ... there's your problem ;p
 
11:12 AM
Is Windows 10 Pro in MSDN ?
I only get Windows 10 Education and Enterprise
 
'windows education' ?
New SKU?
 
naw, been at work all day ;p
I'll likely do it over the next few days
 
11:39 AM
Windows 10 upgrade is not working; Action Center reports 0x80240020 (seems to be a common issue)
 
"Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today" http://blogs.windows.com/launch/
"U.S. Suicides Hit Highest Rate in 25 Years" http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2014/10/08/us-suicides-hit-highest-rate-in-25-years
(could be there is no correlation :-)
 
6 hours ago, by Michael Hampton
Reservation not working? 80240020 your unlucky number? Get an ISO https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
This isn't a reservation issue.
System seems to have downloaded the bulk of the installation packages but fails trying to prepare it for installation.
 
@DragonLord 2 flag i saved for you onthe front page now :-)
 
Looks like the download malfunctioned.
 
@DragonLord sounds like a sound plan, just hook a wire straight to the router for it this time .
and mayby do a SFC /scannow before even starting? to check the integrity of the present system files?
Looks like it got that far for at least 1
 
12:03 PM
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^ Microsoft does Joseph Heller?
 
@Psycogeek nice
 
hey that's not windows 10, windows 10 has cool new pictures on everything.
There , now it is windows 10 :-)
 
@Psycogeek It failed :(
(I can't get it to work, Windows Update is glitching on me)
Okay, Windows Update log says it'll install at 8:25
> Installation Ready: The following updates are downloaded and ready for installation. This computer is currently scheduled to install these updates on β€ŽWednesday, β€ŽJuly β€Ž29, β€Ž2015 at 8:25 AM: - Upgrade to Windows 10 Pro
Looks like it'll finish this time.
A pair of "dynamic updates" are being fetched.
 
12:31 PM
dynamic which are likely to be what? specific drivers for the specific system?
 
12:50 PM
Looks like I'll have to start over due to a fault in Windows Update.
 
failed for me
Boo
 
@JourneymanGeek where at with which of the errors?
 

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