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12:29 AM
@allquixotic also. Stage 2 of adaptec 8405 raid card testing completed
-Init problem from overclock cause: XMP memory profile (fully tested) +DMA +PCI Gen3 resolvable by minor tweak
-Heat less than the LSI a side fan at 50% speed , and RPM set high(er) at boot, temps below 60*c (so far) just don't open the case :-)
-Stability fine always if it had inited using those setting
-Speed Nice :-)
 
Bob
@allquixotic actually going for it? :P
I'm now two gens behind on phones
...but it works, so...
@slhck if you're using certs, it's probably a password on the cert/key - not transmitted to the server
 
It does not need to be said , you won most of the bets :-) It was not so easy to just plug in and go, the MaxSlime software is a mess that is unnecessary for desktop, I do not think would ever work on my system. The cli software is a Pain but I am getting there.
The MB peoples say that with a high overclock indeed the PCI might have to be set to GEN2, well I am not overclocking to make anything slower :-) so (of course) locking the bclk to 100, and tuning the memory "better" and getting the right balance. All achievable without slowing down the PCI throughput possibilities. just not "easy".
 
12:45 AM
@CanadianLuke Who burnt them in before they were given to the customer then? o.O
 
That is significant in the case of this PCI-e 8X thing not initing. sometimes I could not figure out what its problem was, the PCI-E GPU was ALWAY doing fine. There were many times when I put the pci bus down, and the memory way down, and it still would not init. Somehow I now have a UEFI saved profile now though that will init it when it becomes stubborn.
 
1:22 AM
@MichaelFrank I did, but no games. 3d Mark and a prime number generator
 
Customization , where would we be without it :-)
 
2:28 AM
I will star that right after I see the price :-)
 
 
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Bob
3:37 AM
It wouldn't be fair to console peasants to rank them against members of PC Master Race. — corsiKa 8 hours ago
:P
 
4:00 AM
I never much understood online leaderboards for mostly offline games anyway, what value is it to me to see that I am 1839th person on some dumb list anyway :-)
 
Bob
4:19 AM
@allquixotic See, the high-end UHS-I cards are about 75c/GB: shoppingexpress.com.au/view/Samsung-Sale-Oct#flash
 
Bob
4:49 AM
Folks are saying it works in Win8 here: forum.sysinternals.com/syncexe-how-to-use_topic25219.html. They say it's not working in Win8.1, but it seems the problem is they don't know that it's a command line tool. I don't have a Win8.1 machine to test on. Seems fine on Win7. — Jon G 13 hours ago
It amazes me that of all the people replying to that forum topic none seem to mention that it's a command line tool.
No one actually seems to realise
Oh, sure, they propose batch files and the like, but are they even are of the existence of the command prompt?
 
5:00 AM
@Bob Is... Is that an entire forum thread with people figuring out how to use a CLI tool?
 
I have the sandisk super speedy 64g ultra 80m?/s micro cards for the phone, it did not do much for the phone I have, poor thing isn't prepared to cope with such speed :-) but when they do . . . I assume I will still have it. Right after the one to buy is instead a 512g 160mb one
(don't remember if it was big B or little b, but it was even tested for real to be bloody fast. )
that doesn't mean the phone could use the speed in any way, or it could be the speed only comes from the new connection method, and it runs in compatibility
I was expecting it to ramp up and make all file operations 2x faster, and for flames to shoot out the sides of the phone :-)
and on the other side of the coin, there is still many "class 10" and UHS-1" cards that vary in speed by as much as 2X. some not even testing up to real ratings.
 
Bob
5:20 AM
@MichaelFrank Looks like it...
Oh look they did realise cmd existed a couple posts down
 
 
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6:51 AM
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Oh, I see you already linked it haha
 
spammer BTW
Blah, someone beat me to blowing that account up :/
 
gone! like a fart in the wind.. Hans & Frans got deflated
 
Bob
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Q: Can I let my fake flash USB drive get its real capacity through low level format?

KimHGRecently, I bought an USB pen drive which has a cool design. The seller said it is 256gb however, I've already known that capacity would be fake. Anyway, I bought it cause of its cool design and want to use this pendrive. What should I do? I've tried to find a proper tool(vid 1908 / pid 1320) ...

Not sure why that question got so many downvotes.
It's a valid and pretty decent question.
I'd write up an actual answer, buuuut going out now so if anyone wants it... :P
 
from what I read, they freaking blow-up if you even try and use them that far, they corrupt, and all your data becomes hard to get. most people discover they got scammed, not when it runs out of space, but when they lose everything they put on it.
the downvotes might be because , keeping it, only encourages this type of fraud?
Because of the problem, I always fill the disk up completely and compare the data , before assuming anything. and I also test the speed to see how much fraud it was.
If it is a fraud disk, why would a person think there is any more on it than 2G ? if your making money screwing people, why would they spend 1/2 of it ?
 
Bob
7:06 AM
@Psycogeek H2testw. Does all that for you.
@Psycogeek Whatever they can purchase cheapest. I wouldn't be surprised if slow 4 GB is cheapest nowadays.
 
Oh dear gawd.
processor does have to heat up for the system to work. That is why computers need heat sink. My problem is that it isn't doing so. — Niroj Manandhar 2 mins ago
 
Bob
Also, bigger will last longer before someone notices something wrong.
 
@Bob: I think there's a TINY price difference between 4gb and 8gb cheapies
 
Bob
> I tried removing the heatsink and touching the processor but there doesn't seem to be any heat generation
 
(and 2 of the 3 dx cheapies are acting up sooooo ;p)
@Bob: I'm more concerned with the idea that he has a heat powered processor.
 
Bob
7:08 AM
XD
 
@Bob cool program
@JourneymanGeek lol, I have seen something similar written before its true :-) if it isn't powered up no waste heat comes out :-) "Assumes facts not in evidence"
@JourneymanGeek Tubes :-)
 
Tubes do need to warm up
Nonetheless, they arn't heat powered.
 
I am glad I don't live in the alternate universe where the processing unit used was heat activated :-) Buy the new Tandy 2000 with 2kwatts of powerfull processing.
 
lol
Mechanical, steam powered computers!
 
"They do not exactly wrap around as this would soon corrupt the MBR and the partition table in block 0," oh I thought that is exactly what was happening at least on some of them. Fraudsters getting better at making fake flash :-)
More than one person has told me they had used their flash, over and over, and pull the data down , and everything. then suddenly bam. the camera, the video camera, the pc has a fit, and the whole thing is not only corrupted data, but it cant even be formatted anymore.
 
7:29 AM
 
There is probably multiple ways that they fail based on what is done to them. like only flashing the front, and relabeling. Getting failed ones out of dumpsters or from manufactures seconds. or leaving chips themselves off the board.
 
7:46 AM
and the result are in " Checked it through your recommendation and could find the correct space is 6.8GB" only off by 200G , it's a keeper
 
7:56 AM
Morning all
I'm trying to save a file to a folder. The file is called folder.jpg, but it keeps saying that there is already a file called folder.jpg - There really isn't. Any one experienced this before?
sigh...
no thanks clippy
The point is, the folder I'm saving too only has mp3 players, no images at all
Hidden files are shown
known extensions are shown
 
Bob
8:11 AM
@Dave Can you paste the output of dir /a folder?
 
ok
sorry for delay in response :@)
The file is in there (in the cmd output)
in fact, it seems like there are several jpgs not showing...
oh well, this gives me something to get on with, thanks @Bob
 
Bob
8:29 AM
@Dave try refreshing. try showing system files as well
the dir /a output should indicate what type of file it is
 
yes, the dir/ shows it's a jpg
I had aleady tried refreshing, but not system files..
 
Bob
whoops, I meant attrib
 
although, that confuses me a bit - jpgs in other folders show fine
 
Bob
shrug
 
... did you mean dir /attrib?
 
Bob
8:35 AM
I'll be away for a bit
 
if so, that isn't an option ...
 
Bob
@Dave no, attrib is a different command
 
OK, thanks any way for taking the time :)
oh, I'm sorry
I'll Google quickly
 
Bob
@Dave attrib filename
 
SH- so it's hidden
So, I guess I just need to change the attributes. Thank you very much :)
Thanks @Bob, big thank you. attrib file.jpg -s -h fixed it :)
 
Bob
9:22 AM
@Dave S is system
H is hidden
 
 
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10:54 AM
If I have to update the updater, and download the downloader, should I also configure the configurator?
 
11:28 AM
Hmm normal processes(!Admin) can't access the sign in screen can they ?
In windows
Synergy seems to be able to access the login screen if I move the mouse in a certain patter
And then the foreign keyboard works ;p
 
11:47 AM
o0
I think there's a way for synergy like apps to access the sign in screen
MWB does it
 
Bob
12:02 PM
@HackToHell None can.
Doesn't matter if it's admin or not.
You need a kernel-mode driver.
Apparently there's some special variant for keyboard (and other HID?) filters, but it remains that it must be in kernel space.
User space process cannot access the secure desktop in any way.
...or maybe I was thinking of the SAK, but the secure desktop should be the same.
 
12:20 PM
I have some 3month coupon for uploaded, file server. bait anyone?
 
12:48 PM
@Bob But synergy is a user space program !
And it can access the login screen
@JourneymanGeek Can you too ?
I have my screen set to the right, if I hover at the right for a while, it eventually switches to the locked laptop
Both are Windows 8 btw
 
Bob
@HackToHell Oh, You're completely certain it doesn't install a driver of any kind?
I find that rather difficult to believe.
Just because the UI runs in user mode, doesn't mean every part of it does
 
Wait,let me check.
Poker face, Synergy runs a service :|
 
Bob
@HackToHell service != driver
service still runs in user space
service is just a process registered for service management
I'm pretty sure it installs a driver though
that's the only way to access the secure desktop programmatically, apart from exploiting bugs in the OS
 
1:06 PM
@allquixotic Argue with YouTube commenters.
 
@Bob Oh I thought services ran as Administrator
 
@Psycogeek What would be the sign of faucet's rumbling? youtu.be/RHbF2dGgrxs
 
It probably uses a driver then
 
Bob
1 hour ago, by Bob
Doesn't matter if it's admin or not.
Elevated privileges are still in user-space
 
But autoruns.exe doesn't show anything
@Bob Ah, kernel mode stuff
 
Bob
1:06 PM
@HackToHell A driver is not a program
It's a kernel module.
 
It was in the first chapter of Windows Internals :D
 
Bob
It effectively becomes part of the kernel
 
And that's the only way to hook into winlogon.exe !
I kinda get it now
 
Bob
Some application may include a kernel-mode driver, service component and interactive UI component. They're all distinct, but there's no rule saying your app can only have one of them.
@HackToHell ...you're thinking of it wrong
there's no hooking into anything going on here
it's merely relaying HID data as if it were an HID device
at least, that's how I'd expect it to work
to "hook into" some other process implies a dependency on undocumented parts of it, which is a horrifying idea (TM)
 
@Boris_yo sounds like air in the pipes but because we know it isn't that, something in the valve is loose, if it was the usual rotating valve it would be the main valve gasket thing, in a delta style faucet I would not know, I have yet to disassemble my first one. but chances are good that it is a nitrol or ruber seal that is damaged worn out, or cut up?
 
1:12 PM
@Bob Oh
 
@Psycogeek I think when water starts getting very hot, this rumbling happens. Sounds like temperature instability.
 
So it simply has to emulate a HID device
 
Bob
@HackToHell That would be the simplest and most-supported way of doing it.
 
Then that's how synergy probably did it
 
@Boris_yo you want free 3 months speedy download server thing? I have a coupon for uploaded
 
1:22 PM
wow, ubuntu 14.04 has the proprietary wifi driver for my chipset in-built
 
@Psycogeek No, I don't download.
 
@Psycogeek sweet!
@Bob if I lived by the "but it works, so" mantra, I'd still be on the original Droid Razr with an original Snapdragon or something (I forget what it has, maybe it doesn't even have Krait). So yeah, I'm definitely going for it.
 
Bob
1:54 PM
@allquixotic heh, mostly battery and RAM for me
And my S4 has enough RAM
I'd probably care more about networking if my carrier supported LTE
 
Bleh after installing Ubuntu, the laptop sits in the boot splash(the lenovo logo) for a while now
 
@Bob yeah, and my carrier is upgrading their LTE network at a pretty fast pace
 
2:18 PM
Hi
I'm having trouble with installing java.
java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 
@JordanRichards What platform? What version of Java? Is it from Oracle, or OpenJDK? What command did you run to install it? Did it say anything else, or exactly and only what you pasted?
 
@allquixotic Centos 5, followed this tutorial: tecadmin.net/steps-to-install-java-on-centos-5-6-or-rhel-5-6, just what I pasted
I also tried doing yum install java-1.7.0*
 
looks like that's the official Oracle Java packages then
 
I think I may have accidentally installed multiple java versions, not sure :L
 
there are multiple steps in the process; which step gives you that error?
 
2:22 PM
I followed the steps, but I couldn't do java * commands
like java --version
any time I do java anything
 
first, I need to know the directory where your java binary is actually installed. First run which java. You'll get an answer. Most likely it'll be /usr/bin/java. What ever the answer, run ls -la the_answer, where the_answer is the output of which java. Keep doing that repeatedly as long as the response of the ls -la is showing a symbolic link with the some_file -> other_file syntax.
it may take several symbolic link redirections until the output of ls -la the_real_java_binary does not return some form of some_file -> other_file with the -> meaning "symbolic link".
 
Answer was opt/jdk1.7.0_67/jre/bin/java
, I tried doing ls -la opt/jdk1.7.0_67/jre/bin/java
, but it said:
ls: opt/jdk1.7.0_67/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory
 
you're missing a / if you literally ran ls -la opt/jdk...
don't approximate; use the literal exact text output by ls -la in each step
 
not the -> obviously
but everything to the right of the ->
 
2:26 PM
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5714 Oct 31 17:04 /opt/jdk1.7.0_67/jre/bin/java
 
there you go
so /opt/jdk1.7.0_67/jre is the base dir of the JDK7U67 installation that's currently linked to /usr/bin/java
 
right, nice one
 
it's looking for a libjli.so somewhere in there, so does find /opt/jdk1.7.0_67/jre -name libjli.so indicate any results?
 
None :/
 
incomplete installation is all I can guess... bad download or something
 
2:29 PM
@allquixotic right, hmmm, it was a direct dl though
 
how about find /usr -name libjli.so
 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.33/jre/lib/i386/jli/libjli.so
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.71/lib/i386/jli/libjli.so
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.71/jre/lib/i386/jli/libjli.so
lol
 
ok, so you have a ton of JREs and a JDK installed, and I can't think of any reason to use 7U67 when you have 7U71 installed
try ln -sf /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.71/bin/java /usr/bin/java
that'll set you up to use OpenJDK 7U71, which would only be a problem if some program needs specifically the Oracle JVM/JDK
 
those are pretty rare though
try java -version then
 
2:32 PM
crumbs, same error
 
is the host OS 32-bit?
 
ls -la /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.71/lib/i386/jli/libjli.so
I need to see its perms
 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 51384 Oct 15 02:57 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.71/lib/i386/jli/libjli.so
 
ok, world readable and executable so it's not that
try: ldd /usr/bin/java, then become root with su, then repeat the same command
see if the output differs between being root and not root
if you're already root, become a regular user with su whomever and compare the output
 
2:35 PM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 51384 Oct 15 02:57 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.71/lib/i386/jli/libjli.so
 
just exit if you're done with your su'ed subshell
 
also, echo LD_LIBRARY_PATH as both root and as a regular user, using su to switch between the two (so if you started out as root, you'd su a_user, run the commands, type exit, then run the commands again; if you started out as a regular user, you'd su, run the commands, type exit, then run the commands again)
 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 51384 Oct 15 02:57 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.71/lib/i386/jli/libjli.so
same output
 
we're done with ls; you shouldn't be typing ls at all anymore
3 mins ago, by allquixotic
try: ldd /usr/bin/java, then become root with su, then repeat the same command
 
2:37 PM
ooohh
LD_LIBRARY_PATH
It just prints that lol
but anyway, I think it worked... sort of.
java --version returns
Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine.
Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit.
:L
 
I mentioned before that you should be running java -version, not java --version -- every single character makes a difference when using the command line; you should become accustomed to attuning your eyes to recognize each and every character when you read or type commands.
one -, not two.
 
Ooooooooooooh dear.
Thanks so much for your help!
java version "1.7.0_71"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (rhel-2.5.3.1.el5_11-i386 u71-b14)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 24.65-b04, mixed mode)
 
so does it work now?
 
Yes :)
 
that looks good
still not sure what changed, since ldd and echo are just providing information, not actually fixing anything
unless it only works as root, and you're only getting that because you're su'ed in as root
 
2:42 PM
@allquixotic hmm not sure
 
what character is at the end of your shell prompt? # or $?
 
@allquixotic I tried it on both and it works :)
 
both as root and as a user?
 
correct
 
well, I'm at a loss as to why it works now but didn't work after we did the symlink before
 
2:45 PM
I guess at least it works now.
I don't understand either :L
 
maybe if you've been suing back and forth between your root and your user and not typing exit, you've got a new subshell that doesn't have the JAVA_HOME environment variable exported like that awful tutorial told you
echo $JAVA_HOME
 
yeah, that's good
you only need those JAVA_HOME exports like the tutorial tells you for very specific things, and since you have your OpenJDK installed from the package manager linked to /usr/bin/java, you shouldn't need it at all
 
You should start blogging, make better tutorials. XD
 
just to make triple sure that everything is good, you should close your SSH session (assuming you're SSHed into some VPS) and go back in and try java -version once more
just to clear out your environment or any temporary hacks in your existing session
if it works on a clean login of ssh, then you should be all set
 
2:50 PM
Perfect! LOL, I tried doing "--version" again and was about to say "Nope, error" :L
But yeah, all works still after re-SSHing in
Thanks very much for your help!
 
 
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4:30 PM
I'm dressed as an Army Soldier. #inappropriate-costumes
 
shoots
 
runs like a pussy, since I'm not a real soldier
 
Test Execution Metrics Precision Tool
that is the most awesome acronym for a piece of software I've written, ever
I'm going to create a TEMPT directory and rename all the binaries and window titles
as long as someone doesn't mis-read it as "TEMP" and go "oh, just temp? I can delete it then, right?"
 
Me thinks data is false ;p
 
@HackToHell I think it's accurate for certain genres and complete nonsense for others
games with a larger social element will tend to have plenty of women
games with a small or absent social element and a focus on direct competition will tend to have more men
 
4:44 PM
I found that Dota 2 has more female players than Team Fortress 2
 
MMOs have the most, outside of casual games
I'm not convinced by the article that it's more men in MMOs
at least not that many more
 
@allquixotic I assume popular, casual, mobile games have a huge female domegraphic
Women in MMOs play as men. All the female chars are male <del>players</del> golddiggers.
@HackToHell There's this (cute, non-tech) girl at work, I found out she uses steam and the only game she ever plays is Dota 2
 
Yeah I know 3 girls from my country who play Dota 2
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy you have girls at work? *moves to Brazil*
crap. now we have a problem. I need to change my display name to That Other Brazilian Guy
 
Unfortunately I know them through my mates and I can't really hit on em :(
 
4:56 PM
and the other problem is, I need to learn Portuguese
 
@allquixotic you don't ? O_O
 
@HackToHell no one sufficiently young
remember the (now deleted) f'able command?
 
@HackToHell Contrary to the general opinion, Spanish != Portuguese
 
the ones here fall outside of the range for my age
 
Bleh the unrealengine launcher is downloading something
And I can't figure out what
@ThatBrazilianGuy uhhh ?
@allquixotic Aye, how could I forget that :D
 
4:58 PM
who said Spanish = Portuguese?
 
@HackToHell I hope you're kidding.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I think you are under a misunderstanding as to which message HTH replied to
move your mouse back over the message you replied to when you said "Spanish != Portuguese"
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
4:59 PM
!!lukeno
 
@allquixotic That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
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