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oldmud0
oldmud0
1:11 AM
Need a bit of help. I can access all of my PATH'd executables by appending .exe onto them (e.g. where.exe) but just where won't work anymore. Did my PATH get borked?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
wierd
 
oldmud0
oldmud0
fixed it
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Dosen't sound like a path issue. What did you do?
quack?
 
oldmud0
oldmud0
swap system PATH with user PATH
I restored my "backup" wrong
That's weird though, it shouldn't do that.
Gosh dang it, why did I do that
 
Bob
Bob
@oldmud0 Sounds more like PATHEXT
 
oldmud0
oldmud0
1:16 AM
I restored my old system PATH. I hope my computer doesn't bork on reboot.
 
DragonLord
DragonLord
1:36 AM
This is out of the reach of my laptop
I didn't spend $2000 for nothing!!!
I am absolutely flabbergasted by the system requirements here—GTX 680?
That card uses a fully-enabled GK104 operating at higher clocks than my laptop's GTX 780M
...which means I cannot run Assassin's Creed Unity
I've been playing with the idea of building a new desktop, part by part as funds become available
With current technology, the build would be Z97-based, i7-4790 mildly overclocked and coupled to a high-performance air cooler
16 GB of RAM with a future upgrade to 32 GB
 
oldmud0
oldmud0
1:54 AM
I still live with my "worthless OEM" graphics card from NVIDIA. haven't bothered upgrading to gtx 999 yet
runs space engineers pretty well, 45-60 fps
 
DragonLord
DragonLord
512 GB Samsung SSD 850 Pro for system and applications, 2 TB WD Black for pictures and other large data files
a single GTX 980 card, on a board which allows future expansion using SLI
 
oldmud0
oldmud0
wait we're already at 980?
 
DragonLord
DragonLord
...all hooked up to a 800-1000W power supply and protected with a Tripp Lite SmartOnline UPS
@oldmud0 Yes, we are
 
oldmud0
oldmud0
wow, I thought I was joking
 
DragonLord
DragonLord
90-105% the performance of a GTX 780 Ti with 33% less power consumption
yet this is still on 28nm
All-new Maxwell Architecture, GM204 GPU, by far the most efficient GPU ever made
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
2:02 AM
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
2:51 AM
I want my Win 8 drivers :(
Worse the version number for broadcom is the same
> Broadcom_6.30.223.201
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@DragonLord: Been pondering upgrading to a 970, but my other cards do what they do well enough
Probably helps I'm stuck with a 20 inch 720p monitor for now
(of course, this means I can run most games on ultra settings, even with a humble 2gb graphics card...)
@oldmud0: they skipped the 800 series for some reason
 
Windos
Windos
Think it was something to with with bringing the numbering up to speed with the mobile gpus
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@oldmud0: "Worthless" OEM cards are probably better than onboard ;p
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
Downloaded and installed an driver for a different version of the chipset and now WiFi wirks
Fuck you broadcom
Now only Bluetooth isn't working
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
3:26 AM
wow, dat metafeed link.
 
 
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
5:47 AM
woof.
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
6:10 AM
meow
 
Hennes
Hennes
6:22 AM
Purr
 
Bob
Bob
not that I need another mouse
that thing looks weird
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@bob so did you get pdf printer? thing running?
 
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek nup. gave up...
windows refuses to find ntprint, probably corrupted driver cache, no idea how ot repair that
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
ya figure there are probably 3 of them freeware pdf printer things. I was doing that before, and one of the PAy ones was recommended, a few days of trial , and many people are done.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Cutepdf is what I use ;)
39
Q: I was caught cheating on an exam, how can I minimize the damage?

naughtyjojoI got caught cheating in an engineering exam; my life is almost over. One normal engineering course at my university had an unreasonable amount of work: each week we would have like 5 quizzes (1 labview quiz, 2 class quizzes, 1 computer lab quiz, 1 graded report). The course merging with another...

ethics exams cheating
ow.
 
Hennes
Hennes
6:36 AM
Oh, that one.
My first reaction is 'your innocent friend should also get a dean's warning and (s)he should be suspended for at least a week'
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@JourneymanGeek "my building pancaked and 120 stories collapsed on the occupants :-) now my life as an engineer is really over "
 
Hennes
Hennes
:-)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Hennes: Friends don't 'help' friends cheat
 
Hennes
Hennes
Aye.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Friends help them understand the material ;)
 
Hennes
Hennes
6:38 AM
oh, a tip from @kitten_lindy: Do not twitter search on 'bad kitty'
In other news: I fire up tha interwebs before I had my coffee.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
6:53 AM
 
Bob
Bob
7:04 AM
@Psycogeek I'm actually paying for the Adobe one, so... yea. I'd rather use it if I can :P
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
good idea, cause it goes together :-)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
7:18 AM
That's just disturbing as heck
And probably NSFW
(Blowing that up before someone flags it)
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
Resizing a 500 gb partition, hopefully the partition survives ...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
New Taylor Swift album is... ok.
There's nothing super earwormy tho ;p
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
7:34 AM
Gparted says disk resized, windows says not
:/
Laptop lesson #1: Don't move your laptop around with anything connected to it
 
Bob
Bob
7:55 AM
@JourneymanGeek Huh, it's out? checks Spotify
@JourneymanGeek Fearless and Speak Now were best for that :P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
;p
lol
Yeah
@Bob: Yeah, Its even out on HDtracks ;p
 
Bob
Bob
Not on Spotify yet :(
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
last.fm/user/faileasgreywolf/tracks seems to indicate it may be.
 
Bob
Bob
> The artist or their representatives have decided not to release this album on Spotify. We are working on it and hope they will change their mind soon.
Doesn't come up at all on mobile, and that message on desktop.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ahh
 
Bob
Bob
8:00 AM
Meh.
I just won't listen to it then. <=== benefits of not really caring :P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
;p
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
Either the intel 3.0 USB driver doesn't know which is 3.0 and which iis 2.0 or the backplate of the motherboard and manuel are wrong? I am soo confused.
a person would expect that when they plug into the ports Marked 3.0 on the MB, that it would then come under the 3.0 hub item in the device manage. but it is as if all of them are reversed.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
8:25 AM
not all of them. Thing I did not need to know. a single external drive hooked to the "root Hub" or through an onboard intel secondary hub (one more hub) runs at the same speed.
hmmm, there is a pattern forming. 3.0 device in 3.0 ROOT hub (as shown in device manager) windows says (and I do to) it is running 2.0 , is indeed in 2.0 slot. which would not be weird if that was shown Through a 2.0 Hub item first.
Go Flex 3.0 type shown direct to the root 3.0 hub, but is 2.0 speed, and 2.0 port
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
8:48 AM
2.0 input device falls under 2.0 hub in 3.0 port , somewhat logical.
Same 2.0 input device , in different 3.0 port, assumes the one that is direct without hub.
But 3.0 storage device in these various slots , does not show connection diagram as being through hub, be that in 3.0 or 2.0 slot location.
So I am not insane :-) there is a pattern. the connection diagram just looks confusing.
Conclusion: A person could see in the connection diagram in the device manager, that the 3.0 device IS hooked to a 3.0 hub) , But it could be in a 2.0 port , and therefore slow.
That could solve the mystery of 1 SU question I read weeks and weeks ago
My plan has always been to hook up the fastest stuff to the least hubs, that was not really an issue for HD speeds. but I know how to find it now.
My problem was that a 2.0 input device was acting like it was in a 3.0. it was not, but it is now travelling that path. 3.0s seem like they have more buffers or something and have been shown to have tiny latencies, even though they make fast stuff faster.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
9:29 AM
Another picture, this is the very rough short test, one with an extra hub. any variation is nonexistent , because it is well within the variation of a simple test.
 
 
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Bob
Bob
1:14 PM
0
Q: Lap top screen blinks when I use Foxfire

Irawhen I open foxfire the top part of my screen strobes and blinks I have reinstalled the software , restored the computer to an earlier date but the problem still exists i have no problems if i use chrome or aol any suggestions on how to eliminate the annoying flashing

display blinking
Bet it's a troll.
"foxfire"
"aol"
straight out of those tech support nightmare stories
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
aol still makes a browser?
 
Bob
Bob
shrug hell if I know
I think I have an aol disk somewhere though
...and I've never been to America
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
if the question is real, it just sounds like the usual garlics chip thing isn't working right, the machine is overheating or it has an AOL virus on it .
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
Writing a UI is like playing with Satan
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@Bob you wouldn't have to be, the scam they were running was to claim $29.95 loss on their taxes from sending out a disk that nobody installed or some such creative money/paperwork thing.
@HackToHell because your using a demonic language to write it?
3
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
1:22 PM
@Psycogeek yes, Java and XML.
It's way fucking easier with Visual Studio an C#
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
For {{demon[[][(09) . then. . {]][{{( force )}}>))
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
fuck IntelliJ fuck Eclipse
 
Bob
Bob
heh
The Swing App Framework in NetBeans is decent
resembles VS's designer, actually
but they're dropping support for it
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
I am writing an Android app and an Windows phone app that basically do the same shit
I finished the Windows phone app in 2 days
It's been a week since I started with the Android one
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
Well shit.
Moto vs Samsung -- Moto clearly has battery life and durability/build quality in its favor; Samsung ONLY has display size and that stupid S Pen in its favor.
heavily leaning towards going back Moto @Bob
 
Bob
Bob
1:33 PM
o.O
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
it's simple
larger battery, smaller screen, same SoC == better batt life.
how can I say no to that? :D
no thanks clippy
2
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic Same res, though, so the smaller screen isn't as pronounced.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob Still less physical area to illuminate with the backlight.
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic s/backlight/display/
is the Moto AMOLED or LCD?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
3200 mAh on the Note 4 vs. 3900 mAh on the Moto
 
Bob
Bob
1:36 PM
Ah, AMOLED.
No backlights here.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
so both the Note 4 and the Moto are AMOLED?
 
Bob
Bob
Ya.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Moto was using a Samsung panel.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
just one cut slightly smaller and higher PPI
then again the 5.2" form factor is REALLY reminiscent of what the Galaxy S series does lately
I wonder if Sammy will use the same display as the Droid Turbo on the Galaxy S 6.
 
Bob
Bob
S5 is 5.1" 1080p
So, possible. But much higher PPI.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
ah
they COULD make the S 6 5.2" without most people noticing
such a tiny difference
I'll be honest, I still prefer the Motorola software, even after spending months with the S5
and I'm sure Motorola's iteration of Lollipop is going to be damn near vanilla
Moto doesn't use SELinux for Android as far as I know (or if they do, they don't advertise it), but I would suspect that Lolli is going to make that standard anyway, along with the mandatory FDE
 
Bob
Bob
1:40 PM
@allquixotic I'm using Nova launcher.
@allquixotic ...hopefully still rootable
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
this gen of phones is probably designed, hardware-wise, to be ready to handle Lollipop + FDE + SELinux with room to spare
@Bob SELinux makes rooting a bit harder if it's implemented properly. Probably a reason why they're doing it.
Mandatory access control is pretty powerful
And SELinux has had a ton of people looking at and testing and enhancing it for many years; it's an extremely mature KSM
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic Most rooting tools now go through the bootloader.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob Our bootloaders are locked here. Always.
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic s/room to spare/8 GB of storage/
seriously, what's with the anemic storage
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
The last TWO smartphones I've owned, have NEVER had their bootloader's lock broken into on US carriers.
 
Bob
Bob
1:43 PM
@allquixotic Then I'll just have to hope OnePlus et al mature more
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
@allquixotic Then get a phone with a unlocked bootloader already !
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
there was that one incident where a Chinese employee who had access to the Motorola unlock key database was selling them for a lot of money
but he got fired
@HackToHell I don't need it, honestly
for all my Android doing-shit-with-unlocked-devices needs, I'm perfectly happy buying a WiFi-only version of a Nexus tablet (I have the second-gen Nexus 7 atm), which can legally have its bootloader unlocked and then rooted
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
Oh so you do have an unlocked device to play with
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
yeah, it's just not my primary phone, which I need to be absolutely stable
!! s/phone/internet connection/
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@allquixotic yeah, it's just not my primary internet connection, which I need to be absolutely stable (source)
 
Bob
Bob
1:47 PM
heh
my old phone was rooted to get google apps on it
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
both the Note 4 and the Droid Turbo support carrier aggregation.
 
Bob
Bob
my current phone was rooted for titanium backup
I need full SU on future phones for backups
more accurately, restores, since that's how I transfer my apps and data across
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
I use my computer as an intermediary.
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic can't install apps
well, not this specific one
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@HackToHell You know, a lot of my coworkers say they're buying the Note 4 for the purpose of shipping it back home to India. I wonder why they do that. ;p
 
Bob
Bob
1:49 PM
(opera mobile 12.x, the last presto engine version)
I'm slowly moving across to Firefox now
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob Firefox hangs randomly and has to be FCed on my S5 :( Hopefully won't hit that on the Droid Turbo.
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic never had that problem on my S4
currently 50 tabs open
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob I think it could very possibly be Flash
 
Bob
Bob
(not kidding)
o.O
I have Flash, but it's click-to-play and rarely activated
FF closes now and then (probably out of RAM), but restarts where it left off just as reliably as opera :)
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
Droid Turbo has 3 GB of RAM too :) (finally)
and here I was thinking that Moto's next offering would be a gimped POS with a Snapdragon 800/801, 2 GB of RAM, 32 GB max NAND and no carrier agg.
In actuality, its core specs are almost identical to the Note 4.
Except: bigger battery, smaller screen, better chassis construction (imo), no S Pen, no MicroSD card slot, but at least the internal NAND goes up to 64 GB, which is enough for me.
on my S5 I'm currently using about 17 GB, and that's with about an hour or so of 720p video and several pictures that I've already transferred to my PC and forgot to delete from the phone
the internal NAND is way faster than microSD cards anyway, so I'd rather have 64GB of fast NAND than 16 GB of fast NAND and 128GB of slow MicroSD
gotta love Moto's build quality, too. I toted around my Droid Maxx without a case for about 11 months. I don't feel confident doing the same with the S5.
same gorilla glass screen, but the plastic back feels cheap and easily breakable
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
2:00 PM
@allquixotic Phones, laptops and pretty much every electronic stuff is cheaper there
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@HackToHell ahh
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic depends what it is
eMMC isn't all that fast
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob I should really benchmark before opening my mouth, but the conventional wisdom has always been that MicroSD is quite a bit slower than most internal flash chips on recent smartphones.
if that's no longer true, *shrug* -- but I would imagine that the NAND is getting faster over time, while microSD is focused mainly on capacity building.
 
Bob
Bob
I can tell you from my S4, internal storage benches 80 MB/s read and 13 MB/s write
UHS-1 SD can easily beat that at the higher end
unfortunately, my i9505 S4 only has a class10 SD reader
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
AIUI, the construction of a microSD card is similar to a USB flash drive: rather than having a large array of small cells that enables ridic performance a la an SSD, it's usually just an extremely small number of modules (1 or 2) built up to a high capacity, but definitely not lending itself to throughput.
 
Bob
Bob
2:03 PM
so it benches at 17/13
same write (better actually), worse read
the card I'm using, $9 for 32 GB, can reach 45 MB/s read... I forgot the write
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
huh
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
That's cheap :O
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic that's what phones' internal memory does
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
hey, I wonder if anyone has done internal NAND benchmarks on the Note 4 and the Droid Turbo
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
10$ gets you a class 10 16 gig card here
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
2:05 PM
it's far from guaranteed that Sammy and Moto are using similar NANDs
 
Bob
Bob
@HackToHell it was heavily discounted for a couple days across all stores... dunno why
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
they both have to be fairly cheap/affordable considering the price of the phone and where most of the cost goes (the SoC)
but one might easily exceed the other
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I'd expect Samsung to be able to source good NAND more easily
considering they manufacture their own NAND chips for SSDs
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
> 850 Pro
> Samsung
oh yeah. that thing ;p
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic eh, RRP $800+, actual price often ~$500 after a couple months. the wholesale price is obviously lower.
they can afford to spend an extra $10 on good NAND
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
2:08 PM
@Bob maybe :) on Verizon, upgrading from the 32 GiB to the 64 GiB model of the Droid Turbo adds $50 to the MSRP.
 
Bob
Bob
thing is, most people don't care
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
the original Nexus 7's NAND was embarrassingly slow
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic => eMMC
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
like, upgrading 3 apps took 20 minutes because of the storage subsystem
 
Bob
Bob
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
2:12 PM
@Bob you think they'll ever come out with a phone that has internal storage more closely resembling an SSD in terms of firmware complexity, # of dies, etc? obviously they wouldn't be able to even fit an mSATA SSD inside of a phone, but if they used a custom form factor...
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic M.2?
Even that's pushing it.
And SSD controllers generate a lot of heat
and no one really cares about storage speed...
it's not an obvious feature
Aug 12 at 2:28, by Bob 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

           Sequential Read :    43.794 MB/s
          Sequential Write :    19.895 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :    41.337 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :    35.828 MB/s
^ That's a mid-grade UHS-I MicroSD (32 GB) 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : crystalmark.info
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

           Sequential Read :    43.794 MB/s
          Sequential Write :    19.895 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :    41.337 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :    35.828 MB/s
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob I think the criterion for determining whether a phone's eMMC/whatever is "fast enough" is, "once we compress the highest-throughput video the camera system is capable of capturing and start writing out to disk, does the storage subsystem queue length build constantly, or can it keep up with the streaming writes?"
if the answer to the latter is "yes", they're like, "SHIP IT!"
 
Bob
Bob
Not as good as an SSD, obviously, but the write at least is far faster than my S4's internal storage
the read is a bit over half
a high-end SD can match it though
then there's UHS-II
> Specified in SD Version 3.01,[20] supports a clock frequency of 100 MHz (a quadrupling of the original "Default Speed"), which in four-bit transfer mode could transfer 50 MB/s (SDR50). UHS-I cards declared as UHS104 (SDR104) also support a clock frequency of 208 MHz, which could transfer 104 MB/s.
UHS-II:
> Specified in Version 4.0, further raises the data transfer rate to a theoretical maximum of 156 MB/s (full duplex) or 312 MB/s (half duplex) using additional row of pins [21][22] (a total of 17 pins for full-size and 16 pins for micro-size cards).
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
either that, or if the answer is "no", they're like, "Hey, Camera App guy. Can you disable the option for 1080p video? Or increase the compression ratio / reduce the quality?"
 
Bob
Bob
So, yea, SD cards at the higher end certainly can keep up with and beat the internal storage
You were probably thinking of class 4 (terrible), or class 10 (average)
...or class 2, which needs to be force-fed to whoever's still manufacturing them
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
2:17 PM
are we talking about specifically fullsize SD cards, or does "SD cards" mean any form factor capable of reaching those speeds? and do any MicroSDs exist that meet those speed minimums?
 
Bob
Bob
I don't think there's any UHS-II MicroSD yet, but there's certainly USH-I ones at the higher end
> Write Speed: Up to 30 MB/s
Read Speed: Up to 95 MB/s
(those specs are generally reasonably accurate... well, Samsung's ones were)
huh, max speed on those cards drop as the capacity goes up
that's weird
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob hehe, so you mean the specs aren't saying that as long as the FS is caching writes in RAM it can sustain those speeds? :D (joking)
like VirtualBox gloating about their ~500 MB/s throughput on disk benchmarks in a VM, which turned out to be the hypervisor lying about sync() and fsync() and keeping it in RAM on the host-side
"Put this on the persistent storage volume right now."
"OK! [lie]"
 
Bob
Bob
oh wait that's full SD
Same price too!
> Read: up to 90MB/s with UHS-1 interface
Write: Up to 50MB/s with UHS-1 interface
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@_@
 
Bob
Bob
That handily beats my S4's internal
I suppose random access might be worse
but my MicroSD with half that one's sequential clocks 11M/3M random R/W
which isn't too bad
So, yea. If you can pay for a good SD card, and have a capable reader, they can get pretty damn fast
The cheap stuff? Urk.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
2:25 PM
that's enough to give me pause in my quest to purchase one of the two flagship phones in Verizon stores now, since the Droid Turbo still lacks a microSD slot
> Motorola Mobile Computing System, including Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 805 processor with 2.7 GHz quad-core CPU (APQ8084) with 64-bit memory access Adreno 420 @ 600 MHz GPU Natural Language Processor Contextual Computing Processor
that still sounds like it's significantly more stuff than the bare Snapdragon 805 SoC though
which is extremely impressive
someone did a teardown of the Droid Maxx which also had that Natural Language Processor and Contextual Computing Processor, and the verdict was, those are actual integrated circuits on the board, that's not false advertising
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I'm not sure if any phone actually has an UHS-I reader -_-
rumor is the i9500 S4 did
no idea about S5s
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob Droid Turbo it is :D :D :D
wheeeeeeeeeee hello Motorola, I have missed you
 
Bob
Bob
lol
you could always test in your S5
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
meh
lol, I'm gonna have to retire my Micro USB 3.0 cables for a generation or two, until Moto adopts it
unless Moto goes for that new reversible connector, which would be sexy
 
Bob
Bob
:O
Australia got 4.4 on the i9505 three days ago
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
2:34 PM
....nice
........but yours isn't a i9505?
 
Bob
Bob
4.4.2, build date 18.08.2014
@allquixotic yes it is
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
does it show up as an OTA?
 
Bob
Bob
...no idea
I don't think I get OTAs post-root
> Connecting to server...
> Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available
meh.
I'm actually not sure I want to update
4.4 is apparently somewhat unstable (e.g. your BT)
also not sure if it'll be seamless, especially if I try to root again
and, most importantly, what's the benefit?
nice to know I actually have the option now, though
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob if it's 4.4.2 or later, ART is quite nice (though not perfect, since some stuff like certain launchers break on it)
then they supposedly reduced touch latency and improved power efficiency
the main instability of 4.4 is the bluetooth / audio stack (though the problems are far less severe and less widespread with the 3.5mm stereo jack)
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic yea, the power efficiency is a maybe for me
apart from that, I don't see a big reason to update
I tend to shy away from OS upgrades where I can't see what's actually better... prefer a stable environment once it's working
I'll happily use the new OS on a new installation/device, but upgrading an existing system? nopenopenope
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
2:40 PM
now that I stopped rooting my phone/internet connection, I update to the latest OTA enthusiastically. the only time I've been bitten is with the upgrade from 4.2.x to 4.4 killing bluetooth with the incessant dropouts, across two smartphones from two manufacturers
 
Bob
Bob
strangely, my track record with phone upgrades (2.3.6 to 4.0.x, Symbian^3 upgrade, WP8=>WP8.1) has been much better than with x86 (Ubuntu-fail, OpenSUSE-fail, Win8.1-fail...)
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
the highest risk OTAs are major Android version jumps like 2.3.x to 4.0, 4.0 to 4.1/4.2, 4.1/4.2 to KitKat, KitKat to Lollipop, etc
(obviously...)
but if you've NEVER rooted, it should be practically guaranteed to work
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
2:52 PM
!!no
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
And no no no, with a side order of no, served on a bed of no, with no piled on top, and garnished with no.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@JourneymanGeek lol
 
slhck
slhck
Does OpenVPN care what my username is when connecting to a server?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@slhck "username"? how are you authenticating?
OpenVPN supports a ton of different authentication methods; some have no concept of "username" whatsoever
 
slhck
slhck
2:58 PM
@allquixotic I have a config file with a private key + cert in it
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@slhck if you're just authenticating by TLS client cert, there should be no concept of username involved in the transaction.
 
slhck
slhck
Ok, hm.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
you get the TLS server cert, verify it against the CA cert, the server gets your TLS client cert, verifies it against the CA cert, then you're in
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
 
slhck
slhck
Sort of asking the wrong question there because it just doesn't accept the password.. the username was my first guess as to what could go wrong here.
@allquixotic Wait, now the password works. I just get kicked out later with AUTH_FAILED from the server.
 
slhck
slhck
3:13 PM
Hm. Just got a mail
> sir can you help me decoding this video
2
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
No need to guess where he's from.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
 
slhck
slhck
3:26 PM
Well, let's see, don't think it's really possible to help him there
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Q: how to convert raw video file (.ign) to .mp4

aizaazI want to get videos out of aakash itutor (education tablet with android 4.1) to store them on my pc as it is going to expire soon. i found out where the videos actually are in the educhip(memory card). the videos had their extentions removed and i simply started renaming them but i couldnt fine ...

android video ffmpeg video-processing screen-record
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@slhck clearly, simply changing the file extension from .ign to .mp4 should convert the videos to MP4.
;-D
 
slhck
slhck
@allquixotic :D
Interesting format though.. Apparently it's just wrapped with some extra data, and Flash video inside.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@slhck would it be possible to cut the FLV?
dd ibs=1 if=blah.ign of=blah.flv skip=n count=n
> major_brand...qt
 
slhck
slhck
@allquixotic Changing the IGN to FLV in the file worked..
At least it recognizes the container and the streams.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@slhck lol nice
 
slhck
slhck
3:34 PM
Input #0, flv, from '0aa1df70-9a0b-49a0-9fd8-e49bbc26bd3f.flv':
  Metadata:
    major_brand     : qt
    minor_version   : 537199360
    compatible_brands: qt
    encoder         : Lavf55.15.100
  Duration: 00:29:37.73, start: 1584694.072000, bitrate: 590 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Video: none, 200 kb/s, 1k tbr, 1k tbn, 1k tbc
    Stream #0:1: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo
    Stream #0:2: Data: none
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
so their "format" is "change the flv magic number"
 
slhck
slhck
Apparently -- although it could be that the video bitstream is encoded.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
that's the type of question I'd normally downvote and VTC (if i had VTC privs on SO, which I don't), but it presents an interesting technical problem, which leaves me in quite the dilemma
 
slhck
slhck
Yep
Haha. I told him I didn't have a lot of time to check it out and that posting on SO is the better place to ask anyway.
Got the reply:
> nobody seems to give a damn there sir
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
Sir!
 
slhck
slhck
3:40 PM
Always makes me feel like I have authority or something.
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
Sir pls
 
slhck
slhck
Man, I do the needful way more often than needed.
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
or maybe Sir Slhck.
@slhck well, it was quite urgent anyway
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
Any reason why an Adhoc wireless setup out of my own computer using ICS , is a problem or slow or anything when used as a temporary method to Wi-Fi in a phone? I was using a "virtual router" before, but stumbled upon and almost by accident set it up this adhoc thing with windows.
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
I use Virtual Router at a place that doesn't want Wifi routers kicking around... Works great
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
3:57 PM
yea it is weird to (sort of) invert a cheap adapter into a router. I don't do a lot of wireless, and could do both for $30 :-) if only it would make it 2/3s the way through the house with speed.
 
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