Root Access

Bob

12:26 AM

O_O

@JourneymanGeek superuser.com/questions/788887/can-you-convert-mp3-to-text weird question...

this answer and its COMMENTS are SUFFERING from INAPPROPRIATE capitalisation

(FREE, TEXT, ...)

Psycogeek

1:22 AM

Please anybody Reject this edit, so I can edit the original now that i already rejected an invalid change.

superuser.com/review/suggested-edits#suggested-edits/…

DemCodeLines

1:49 AM

Any way to remote desktop a pc that's sleeping?

Michael Frank

@DemCodeLines What kind of sleep?

Journeyman Geek

2:08 AM

@DemCodeLines can you wake on lan it?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

2:57 AM

@Bob Wolve. :-)

Bob

3:10 AM

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ :D

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: ugh. SaladCAse, and BOLDABUSE

Michael Frank

Ugh... I Wish I Had A Mark As Duplicate Button At Work.

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ I might make that my new gravatar, actually

Kyron

4:42 AM

Anyone good with iptables? superuser.com/questions/788473/iptables-port-forwarding-openvpn

Bob

@Kyron You're using the wrong approach.

Kyron

How should I be going about this?

Bob

Port forwarding is used only to forward a single (incoming) port, typically on a NATed network. If you want to use general outgoing connections, e.g. web browsing, then that won't really work.

@Kyron With a VPN, typically you'll want to set up your computer's routing tables so any requests to a certain destination IP gets sent through the tunnel.

Unfortunately, that's not something you can really control on the browser level.

Kyron

Hmm. /:

Bob

On the browser level, you can use a SOCKS proxy.

There may be a SOCKS proxy server implementation that can route over a specific interface (the tunnel).

@Kyron One rather roundabout way would be to run a VM that forwards all outgoing traffic through the VPN. Then set up a SOCKS server on that machine and point your browser on your primary machine at that SOCKS proxy.

Kyron

4:57 AM

That does seem a little heavy though.

Bob

Yea.

Ideally you'd be able to find a SOCKS server that lets you choose an outgoing interface/IP.

Pretend your computer has two network cards. It effectively does, just not physical.

@Kyron You should be able to use Dante, assuming you have a *nix machine.

inet.no/dante/doc/1.4.x/config/server.html

Look at the "Server address specification" section

You'd want to set external to your tun interface

Then you can point your web browser at the internal address

Kyron

Not sure what *nix is an abbreviation for, heh. I'm running linux.

Debian*

Bob

@Kyron http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/*nix

Kyron

Ah, greta.

great*

Journeyman Geek

Its not meant for that (its more of a load balancer) but dispatch proxy may work there

Kyron

5:06 AM

Cool. And would I be able to run multiple socks servers?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Looks like it would.

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

@Kyron Yea, each one just needs its own internal listening socket (IP/port combo).

Dispatch-proxy is just another (simpler, I guess) SOCKS proxy.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: and port

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I knew I forgot something :P

Kyron

5:07 AM

Could I not use the same internal IP while using a different port.

Bob

@Kyron See above :P

Journeyman Geek

port is probably more critical here since you'd want each proxy listening on a seperate localhost port, and sending information to a different outward facing ip address

Bob

127.0.0.1:8080 and 127.0.0.1:8081 would work. Or you could do one on 127.0.0.1:8080 and another on 127.0.0.2:8080; it's not really important

as long as the combination of IP and port are unique

some cases, you'd prefer a different port. others, you'd prefer a different IP

Kyron

Ah, I see. That's great!

Bob

o.O

-4

Q: What specs should I upgrade on my laptop if I were to use it to play games?

My laptop, Inspiron 1525, is SLOW. It is almost impossible to play Portal 2 and Portal 1 is laggy but still playable. I still managed to beat the game. Half Life 2 episode 2 is possibly even laggier than Portal 2. Minecraft is quite laggy. My hard drive stores 136GB of memory. Here are my specs:...

I mean... ignoring the shopping-question part, and the hardware, the sheer amount of crap he has running in the background scares me. And, yes, I'm being hypocritical :)

Journeyman Geek

5:11 AM

"get a new computer"

SOLVED!

Bob

Whenever I see anyone asking about good laptop configurations for gaming, I just want to say You're Doing It Wrong

The entire existence of Alienware confuses me, too.

Kyron

"cant you people bother clicking the link?" .... Rude.

Oh, and, can you shoot me some links to learning about networking/routing etc. I'm fairly interested in it since I started looking into it.

Journeyman Geek

lol

or the blade.

Bob

@Kyron I'm not really aware of any general material, but I'd be happy to answer somewhat more specific questions if you ask here.

Journeyman Geek

Really though, ig you want a long term gaming box, get a desktop

Bob

5:14 AM

Otherwise, you can take a look at the OSI model and TCP/IP, to start with.

(Note that the OSI model is theoretical, and the practical TCP/IP we use doesn't directly map to it.)

That goes for devices too. You know those boxes you get called "routers"? They're usually some physical connectors (layer 1), a switch (layer 2), a wireless access point (layer 2) and a router (layer 3), does NAT (layer 3/4) and often a web-based configuration interface (layer 7) in one box. Jam more features in, sell more.

Enterprise routers tend to be more strict :P

@JourneymanGeek Or a not-terribly-overpriced one? :P

As far as I'm concerned a gaming laptop is just an overpriced toaster.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob: true

I still want a blade someday ;p

Bob

Kinda fun to dream about, but as far as practicality goes...

Journeyman Geek

I'd probably be ok with a 500 dollar cheapie or a ~~netbook~~ chromebook? ;p

Kyron

@Bob Ahh, I was reading about L3 Routing. - Now I see where the L3 comes from. Heh.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Now let's not go too underpowered :P

Journeyman Geek

5:22 AM

(don't forget, nearly every laptop I've owned is a thinkpad)

@Bob: My mobile needs are pretty limited

all I need is a decent connection and SSH

Bob

I have my eyes on the Surface Pro 3 (or 4), though. Very expensive, but nice build, pretty powerful, and very portable.

@Kyron Yea, take a look at the OSI model for a general idea of how each layer is separated.

Basically, when you go up a layer you just expect the lower layers to handle things for you.

If you write a web browser, you (ideally) shouldn't have to worry about how the traffic is routed towards the destination, or how congestion control works, etc..

You just tell the lower-level libraries to open a socket to some ip:port combination and let them figure that out.

Of course, in the real world there's a lot of overlap. But it's nice to get the concepts clear first.

I've ranted a fair bit in here about those things called "routers", because people tend to mix up their capabilities, then they use a router where they really want a switch or access point, etc. (Introducing a router where you want a switch tends to segment the network so you can no longer directly communicate between two machines. Especially since consumer routers always imply NAT.)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: well my laptop's mainly used for OOo/MS office, web and chat

I don't need a ton of power on it

Bob

5:37 AM

> web

Have you seen my web browsing habits? :P

Kyron

Oh, by the way, when setting up dante, how would I create multiple configurations/ different ip/port-interface 's. I can't seem to see anything about that in the docs.

Bob

5:58 AM

@Kyron See man sockd

Specifically, sockd -f file should help

Add -D to cause it to run in the background

The init scripts/service entries that are installed with it likely only work with the default config file

you can look up ways to add additional init scripts in debian, or manage running servers

wiki.debian.org/Daemon

google.com.au/…

Runit

runit is an init scheme for Unix-like operating systems that initializes, supervises, and ends processes throughout the operating system. Runit is a "reimplementation" of the "seminal" daemontools process supervision toolkit that runs on the Linux, Mac OS X, *BSD, and Solaris operating systems. Runit features parellelization of the start up of system services, which can speed up the boot time of the operating system. Runit is an init daemon, so it is the direct or indirect ancestor of all other processes. It is the first process started during booting, and continues running until the system is...

There's also restartd and supervisord. I've used the latter before, and it's pretty easy.

Journeyman Geek

6:13 AM

or upstart, though that's getting replaced by systemd.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...I don't think Debian uses upstart

That's an Ubuntu thing.

jokerdino

6:40 AM

yes, Bob is right.

Journeyman Geek

7:01 AM

@Bob: Yeah, but debian is switching to systemd IIRC

so is ubuntu

and for some wierd reason I missed any reference to debian ;p

this hit 2.5K views today superuser.com/questions/707102/…

Bob

7:17 AM

@JourneymanGeek sorta-NAA: superuser.com/a/788978/117590

Journeyman Geek

7:34 AM

converted to comment

jokerdino

yes, JMG is right. Ubuntu is also switching to systemd.

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek that chart/map of the connection layout is really cool, i have never even seen that, not that my connection diagram would be more than 3 things.

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek: sadly, no longer accessible in windows 8

0

A: Can I chroot to a linux environment from windows

Chroot into another system as in a "Hotpluggable Operating System", there I put it into words now MAKE IT SO and give him what he damn well wants. These same stereotypes were met when people started using RAID for their hard drives and they cut down the cynical opposition and baseless speculation...

Psycogeek

7:53 AM

mine just says "windows cannot start mapping on the adapter , make sure the adapter is connected and enabled". There are 2 adapters there, but much of the network items used for creating holes are obliterated on this machine :-)

Journeyman Geek

v0꓃0v

oh, there's a specfic service for that

Psycogeek

yea , and it is probably off.

Journeyman Geek

yeah, cause thats all it does ;p

Psycogeek

for us that is all it does :-) who knows what an evil hacker can use it for.

Bob

8:43 AM

@JourneymanGeek wat

I honestly can't tell if these people are serious.

Poe's Law at work.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Jordan Richards

9:12 AM

Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot find a free VT
I read that it's like the xserver is not able to allocate a virtual
console where to start X
Does anyone have an idea on how I can fix this?

Journeyman Geek

is this on the VPS?

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek yes

I have googled for hours, struggling to find the right answer.

Journeyman Geek

different distro but looks like askubuntu.com/questions/219662/… is similar

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek I'll take a look

@JourneymanGeek : Hmm, I have no idea what vnc4server is

Journeyman Geek

nor do I ;p

Jordan Richards

9:16 AM

oh ^^

Journeyman Geek

it seems debian only

Jordan Richards

Basically, what I am doing is trying to set up xfce and mono so that I can run .NET apps on linux

Journeyman Geek

what I meant though is that openvz/cheap vpses suck for things like that.

Jordan Richards

Everything was going well, but now I am hitting this error

Journeyman Geek

(seriously, local vm dude)

Jordan Richards

9:17 AM

hm?

Journeyman Geek

run a linux vm locally to work on first?

Jordan Richards

Oh, that is what you meant, instead of my actual one?

Journeyman Geek

yeah. I THINK the issue here is VPSes arn't really set up with spare VTs

there's workarounds, which what I assume this vnc4server thing is

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek Oh, that sounds right.

Journeyman Geek

and its probably not maintained

Jordan Richards

9:20 AM

Aha

linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/…

"If this machine is not local, you will either have to use VNC or have the users ssh into the box with X11 forwarding enabled, and launch this program so that it's displayed on their local machine."

Looks like you were on the right lines

Mr_Green

1

Q: Can't play audio files on Windows 8

I am trying to play mp3 files on my windows 8 laptop. For some reason they are not being played on any player. I can see the following error in Windows media player: Windows Media Player encountered a problem while playing the file. I am not much tech geek but I checked the sound driver sta...

windows-8 audio windows-media-player

^ Any help?

Journeyman Geek

yeah but you have no local display

there's things that emulate that though

and man, bioshock infinite is a pretty game.

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek Well, I am trying to use xfce with mono, to remotely access the server, but there is just black

Journeyman Geek

hm

Mind if I assume x server is working and walk through the stuff that seems obvious? ;p

how are you trying to connect to the server?

x?

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek correct, startx won't work

this is what is giving me the error

Journeyman Geek

9:31 AM

wait. are you running startx on putty?

Jordan Richards

correct

Journeyman Geek

....

putty doesn't do x

Jordan Richards

Oooohhh

I am so confused now, sorry

(Not an experienced superuser)

Journeyman Geek

you need an x implimentation for windows.

I prefer mobaxterm since its free, and you use it like its linux

Jordan Richards

Sweet, I'll install now

Journeyman Geek

9:33 AM

mobaxterm.mobatek.net

I'm not 100% sure if it'll work here

but putty will not let you do an x connection

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek I cannot believe that I was trying to do that. Thanks so much

Journeyman Geek

lol

Jordan Richards

Glad it is an obvious problem.

Journeyman Geek

It isn't that obvious

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Why are you trying X forwarding

Journeyman Geek

9:34 AM

@Bob: I'm not

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ suggested Xrdp for a reason

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: he's trying to open an x session in putty

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The only case you need an X implementation on Windows for a remote display is for X-Forwarding.

Journeyman Geek

if he is using Xrdp, than clearly I was given the wrong information, so its not my fault ;p

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek I'm sorry. Yes, I am using xrdp

Journeyman Geek

9:35 AM

(and if I chase my own tail, I actually have an excuse)

Bob

Xrdp is supposed to host its own X server, and allow view/control over the network via RDP (Windows Remote Desktop)

Journeyman Geek

in which case, you should be using an rdp client.

(windows has a perfectly good, one might say the standard rdp client ;p)

Jordan Richards

\mstsc.exe right?

Bob

...without the backslash

Jordan Richards

I've logged in, but it is just a black screen

it just says "tcp connected" in the dialog.

Bob

9:40 AM

@JordanRichards Have you followed this yet?

@JordanRichards How on earth did you end up there from trying to install Xrdp??

Jordan Richards

@Bob End up where?

Bob

Click the little arrow to the left of the reply.

Jordan Richards

I have the xrdp server running all good

Bob

yknow what

I'm gonna try myself

bob@phoebe:~$ sudo apt-get install xrdp
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libfontenc1 libutempter0 libxaw7 libxfont1 libxkbfile1 libxmu6 libxxf86dga1
  vnc4server x11-apps x11-session-utils x11-utils x11-xkb-utils
  x11-xserver-utils xbase-clients xbitmaps xfonts-base xfonts-encodings
  xfonts-utils xinit xterm
Suggested packages:
  vnc-java mesa-utils nickle cairo-5c xorg-docs-core x11-xfs-utils xfs xserver

This is on a (fairly) clean Debian server.

Jordan Richards

xrdp is installed fine

the service is running and I can connect to it

I'll try adjusting the config file

Yes! It worked!

@Bob @JourneymanGeek thanks for your help!

Bob

9:45 AM

o.O

Jordan Richards

Oh crumbs, I get an error when trying to run the app on mono now though

Bob

That was easy.

Didn't even need to install an additional DE.

Though I'll probably need to install something in order to log in.

@JordanRichards Well, it'd be easier to help if you provided the message.

Jordan Richards

1

Q: Unhandled Exception while running .exe on mono framework in Ubuntu 13.04

I am using ubuntu 13.04, I installed mono-3.1.2 on Ubuntu-13.04 successfully. Now i am trying to run C# .exe from windows visual studio. $ mono WindowsFormsApplication1.exe I am getting the following :- Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An except...

mono

Aha! yum install mono-winforms* did the trick!

Oh wow, this is awesome

Is there a way I can keep this .exe app running even when I close the rdp?

Bob

10:02 AM

@JordanRichards It should stay running.

Jordan Richards

@Bob oh ok, neat

Oliver Salzburg

11:04 AM

Rage! superuser.com/posts/748387/revisions

Jordan Richards

I have an issue

I have mono 2.10.8, but I now installed 3.0.7. When I type mono --version, for some reason it still uses mono 2.10.8

It's using the wrong one

Bob

11:21 AM

So what does the TLA acronym stand for in this case? Totally Legit Agency? Trolls and Leprechauns Association? (I know, I know, Three-Letter Acronym) — TildalWave 2 hours ago

Jordan Richards

11:39 AM

@Bob lol

Any idea on how I can get it to use 3.0.7 instead of 2.10.8?

Journeyman Geek

12:18 PM

eh. too much cool stuff on the internet today.

Jordan Richards

lol

Journeyman Geek

alexkaltsas.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/… (When my printer dies I am SO doing this)

hackaday.com/2014/07/27/…

Jordan Richards

Anyone ever had two versions of the same package but the older one is being used?

Journeyman Geek

You usually don't.

hm. How did you install mono 3?

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek I did a compile

Journeyman Geek

12:20 PM

annnnd?

Jordan Richards

4

Q: Install Mono and Monodevelop on CentOS 5.x/6.x

I am trying to install Mono and Monodevelop on a CentOS 5.9 environment. I have tried the following instructions, with no luck. http://fealves78.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/install-mono-and-monodevelop-on-centos.html Can anyone suggest an alternative to the the above link.

linux mono centos monodevelop

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards clearly you have mono-3.0.7 installed on a different path... you probably installed it to /usr/local again

Journeyman Geek

When in doubt use the full path

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

deduction: IF you installed it --prefix=/usr, THEN the binary /usr/bin/mono would be mono-3.0.7; THEREFORE, you didn't install it --prefix=/usr

Journeyman Geek

;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:22 PM

99.9% of the time it's just people not realizing WHERE the build system is installing their binaries

Journeyman Geek

(AKA, we don't know what you did. Keep notes)

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: I've been bitten by that once or twice ;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

when in doubt, make install 2>&1 | grep bin/mono

you'll see a line something like INSTALL blah blah /usr/local/bin/mono

Journeyman Geek

what does 2>&1 do?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JourneymanGeek I think make spits out its messages to STDERR, so that redirects STDERR to STDOUT

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Jordan Richards

12:23 PM

I used ./configure --prefix=/usr

./configure --prefix=/usr

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

maybe it installed the binary as /usr/bin/mono-3.0.7 then... only one way to find out... well, many ways, but the easiest is ls -la /usr/bin/mono*

Journeyman Geek

also the output of which mono might help too

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: silly question, but why are we assuming its in /usr/bin?

(aside from it being an odd location)

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ That returns a few things, but nothing there showing the version number

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

it might've also installed just /usr/bin/mono-sgen and /usr/bin/mono-boehm and not /usr/bin/mono

@JordanRichards try /usr/bin/mono-boehm --version

Jordan Richards

/usr/bin/mono-boehm --version

Journeyman Geek

12:25 PM

wrong terminal ;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JourneymanGeek the CentOS version of mono installs the binaries into /usr/bin by convention; his compiled version of mono installed into /usr/bin because he ran ./configure --prefix=/usr

Jordan Richards

Aha! /usr/bin/mono-sgen --version returns the correct one!

Journeyman Geek

... wouldn't that do all sorts of horrid things?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

as I suspected.

Journeyman Geek

OH

did you log out and back on?

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: >_>

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:27 PM

that has nothing to do with it

@JordanRichards meh, so mono-3.0.7 simply didn't install a /usr/bin/mono symlink to /usr/bin/mono-sgen

Journeyman Geek

I better keep quiet now. I think you have a better idea what's going on ;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

starting with some release of mono after 2.10, they split their binaries into two different garbage collectors: Second Generation (sgen), and Boehm, which is a more traditional but slower but more stable GC

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ oh

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

I thought they would symlink /usr/bin/mono into one of the two, but apparently they didn't

basically if you want stability (just to get it bloody working, performance be damned), you should run mono-boehm for now

if that WORKS and you're happy, you can experiment with mono-sgen to see if it's any better, though it may just end up crashing after running for a long while

mono-boehm is already known to run very stably after running for months at a time

Jordan Richards

-bash: /usr/bin/mono-boehm: No such file or directory

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:29 PM

heh, the default configure options might not even build boehm as of 3.0.7

well then you're stuck with sgen :)

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ haha, alright

Just gotta do that syslink now then right?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

basically, to sum it up: sgen is THOUGHT to be 100% stable now (per the mono developers), but it's not necessarily always stable... HOWEVER, if you have an sgen issue, you'll only encounter it after a very, very long time of successfully running your program

you won't encounter an sgen issue, say, on program startup, or 5 minutes after running it

basically if you run your program for 4 weeks and everything is happy and then it crashes, you may want to consider recompiling with boehm GC

if it just crashes right away, sgen isn't at fault

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ oh ok

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

I wouldn't worry about the symlink, to be honest

the nice part about having your mono 3.0.7 version sequestered off on its own binary is that any old programs that only work with mono 2.10 that call mono in their startup script, will continue to work

you can just start your program over an RDP session terminal with mono-sgen Whatever.exe

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Oh, I never thought of that haha :)

Sweet yeah, I had this issue with RDP earlier

All fixed though, time to try! The moment of truth

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:32 PM

remember, you cannot run mono-sgen Whatever.exe from your putty console, because your putty console isn't set up to run programs in the X11 environment (you can make it so by exporting the DISPLAY environment variable to the correct value, but you wouldn't be able to see the output unless you RDP in)

I recommend opening the XFCE Terminal app in your RDP session -- since it's a graphical terminal, it will have the DISPLAY variable exported to the environment, so X11 programs should run

and don't run it as root

X11 and root don't play well together at all

don't login to RDP as root, either

make a user account if you haven't already

Journeyman Geek

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: oh, he came across that issue earlier.

Jordan Richards

When I try to login as my other user (not root) the correct password, just says that it "password failed"

Which I cannot understand, because it definitely is the right password

Hmm, maybe the user account does not work for rdp?

(Also, is there a way I can copy and paste plain text into my rdp?)

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

what are the contents of /etc/pam.d/xrdp-sesman ?

you can grab it as root from putty

Jordan Richards

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 144 Nov 18 2010 /etc/pam.d/xrdp-sesman

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

the contents, not the permissions

use cat or less

it's a small file, you can paste it here

Journeyman Geek

12:41 PM

would that need sanitisation?

Jordan Richards

auth required pam_unix.so shadow nullok
account required pam_unix.so
auth include system-auth
account include system-auth

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

no, it's a standard part of the install

no obvious problem there

maybe it's an orphaned X issue.

linuxtoolkit.blogspot.com/2013/03/…

rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix/*; service xrdp restart

that's the safest way to blow it away :P

then try your user login again

once you get logged in, you can always try starting up your program through the back door...
(1) login successfully as root or user to RDP
(2) as the same user that's logged in, in putty, run `ps -ef | grep -E ':[0-9]'` and find the number after the colon
(3) run `export DISPLAY=:123` where `123` is the number you found in step 2
(4) run `mono-sgen Whatever.exe` (in putty)

(but that won't work if you are not logged in via Xrdp)

coincidentally, the backticks above that Markdown didn't convert into monospace won't affect the commands at all -- even with the backticks the shell will run it normally :P

Jordan Richards

root 1 0 0 Jul20 ? 00:00:05 init [3]
root 2 1 0 Jul20 ? 00:00:00 [kthreadd/256]
root 3 2 0 Jul20 ? 00:00:00 [khelper/256]

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

nah not that lol

so you don't have any running then

Jordan Richards

jordan 815

ohh

is that it?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:50 PM

>_>

no?

bad regex, actually

forgot about the damn times

ps -ef | grep -E ' :[0-9]'

with a SPACE after the ' !

Jordan Richards

root 537 535 0 16:32 ? 00:00:00 Xvnc :12 -geometry 1920x1080 -depth 24 -rfbauth /root/.vnc/sesman_root_passwd -bs -ac -nolisten tcp -localhost -dpi 96

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

HAH.

it's :12 :P

Jordan Richards

ok :)

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

so export DISPLAY=:12

Jordan Richards

wait

I did that in root, I was meant to, right?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:52 PM

shit's not going to be happy running as root, but in this case, you may get lucky anyway

Jordan Richards

Sweet the app runs now

Just one more thing, I need to be able to copy and paste plain text in :L

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

easier said than done

Jordan Richards

:o

Journeyman Geek

@JordanRichards: you could always cheat

Jordan Richards

Maybe I could set a var with what i need pasted

Journeyman Geek

12:55 PM

ssh session + terminal session in xrdp + wall ;p

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek ?

Journeyman Geek

linux.die.net/man/1/wall

Jordan Richards

Neat!

Journeyman Geek

or open up a nano session in a ssh session and save whatever you need pasted (hell, could even do the whole thing you need as a shell script) and save it

(or someone else would end up suggesting something less...ugly)

Jordan Richards

Aww, it will not let me copy from the rdp's console

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:58 PM

for most things you'll need to have a running terminal IN your xrdp session

you should press Ctrl+Z, then type bg, in Putty... then type xf, hit tab a few times, and find the command name for the terminal... I think it might be xfterminal

if you just want a program to fork to the background when you start it, run it with an & after it: e.g. xfterminal &

for window switching (which you may not have, I can't see your screen so I have no idea if xfce successfully logged you in), you may have to start xfwm4 &

I'll be back later

Jordan Richards

oh crumbs

System.DDLNotFoundException: System.Data.SQLLite.dll

Psycogeek

Fbi Director figures that most hackers are stoners. http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/05/fbi-director-dont-let-weed-stop-you-from-applying-to-the-fbi/371279/ So Go ahead an apply to an office that is very likely to have drug testing. Do you fiure that
A) hackers that would work FOR the Fbi are probably stoned?
B) Probably why the goverment does not get anything done?
C) The FBI spends to much time dealing with crime to know how many people are not?
D) Yea , hackers are getting stoned, and it isnt just in the movies?

BigHomie

@Psycogeek phishing attempt.

Psycogeek

ahhh

Journeyman Geek

lol

and meh

Not all cybercrime folk are hackers

and forensics pukes (like myself) don't seem too common

Psycogeek

1:11 PM

@BigHomie that probably explains the big shirt eating grin on his face in the picture :-)

BigHomie

> * ..and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview..*

2nd incorrect assumption, you best hackers are probably in their mid 30s, far from kids.

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ more stable?

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ mono is supposed to be fully backwards compatible, I believe

@JordanRichards Just grab that one and chuck it in the same directory

system.data.sqlite.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki

Hm, that one might be Win32 only.

You might be able to build it for Mono following the instructions here: system.data.sqlite.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/build.wiki

Jordan Richards

1:26 PM

@Bob Thanks, I have no idea how to follow those instructions though :(

By the way, I already have an System.Data.SQLLite.dll in the same folder

Bob

@JordanRichards It's Win32-only for now.

Oh nope:

> Windows:

You need System.Data.SQLite.dll and you need two directories x86 and x64. These have SQLite.Interop.dll which is pre-compiled for the two platforms. This provided to you on the website, and I won’t go any further than that.
Linux:

You will end up with ONLY System.Data.SQLite.dll and the native sqlite3 binary. (You can get sqlite3 however you please, but it will eventually end up in your output directory for your product).

Jordan Richards

1:42 PM

What is the difference between SQLLite and SQLite

Could not load file or assembly 'System.Data.SQLite' or one of it's dependencies.

Bob

o.O

SQLite is the name of the software/library

SQLLite is some dumbass misspelling it :P

Jordan Richards

@Bob oops

yeah anyway so

the dll is in the folder that the .exe is in