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12:02 AM

@DavidPostill that leaves understanding which one would be removed by the "community" based on flag votes, and not needing moderator attention to get it removed? I am pretty sure that spam gets killed after 5-7 community votes.

@Psycogeek But of course costs $60 per seat

Because if you need better than average software, you gotta have a better than average income.

Until foss saves the day and sets the price to $0.000

@Psycogeek Something like that. I also cast a delete vote on it (20k privilege).

@DavidPostill that is more definitive than "mod take a look at this" :-)

you know what kind of scenario I hate? when a question is offtopic on SE but wouldn't ever be answered on a forum either

or when a question is not answered on either

does Planetary Annihilation really take up 8+ GB of RAM?

12:18 AM

is that the example question? I would think that nobody gives a crap about ram after planetary annihilation :-)

no

that's just some random unrelated question

this says that steamcommunity.com/app/233250/discussions/2/626329186876971261 the game was designed with multiple processes running at the same time for speed, and that could be controlled by reducing the number of render processes forums.uberent.com/threads/…

like chrome

using processes the way they were never meant to

maybe if they could use threads correctly, they wouldn't need to abuse processes to take control of the cpu scheduler

having the main loop locked due calculation of units status can be a drag

12:34 AM

why is that in the main loop

because it can't be somewhere else? You need fast access to data, do calculations, send instructions to the render, etc. and everything at the same time

Dwarf Fortress suffers more or less of the same issue

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@TomWijsman I'll keep an eye on your account. I do wonder how he got your email address

@oldmud0 I doubt it.

@Braiam umm threads do help out in doing everything at the same time

@oldmud0 if that were true, the main gui of firefox wont freeze when a rogue js start trashing about doing ridiculous calculations

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rouge?

12:40 AM

what is this li-fi I keep hearing of on BBC news, is it their new buzzword?

@JourneymanGeek you didn't see anything

@JourneymanGeek You know, for the Redsomething site... what was it now... Oh yes! Google Red.

@oldmud0 replace wireless with light and you will get it

@Braiam DF suffers from trying to simulate everything everywhere :P

does it keep pinging you?

12:42 AM

The notification sounds!

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@oldmud0 basically they use flashing LEDs and PWM to send ~~mind control rays~~ data

(I turned off the ping sounds)

instead of radiowaves

that must be a bug

Every edit does a new ping from ~~the remains of my ears~~ experience

....or a feature

12:43 AM

Like not being able to set the volume of the notifications :P

who would even adopt that

(Side note: have learned not to use headphones while in chat)

people worried about cancer

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Also the fact that it only works inside a room

so no contention.

it doesn't go through walls

12:45 AM

well, actually it should work whenever you get visual contact

Does it work in rooms with windows (lol Windows etc) during the daytime? Article says outside is no-go due to interference from sunlight

5GHz doesn't go through people

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@bertieb no idea.

Windows are lame anyway. We get all the light we need from our screens.

THE MORNING STAR. IT BURRRRNSSSS.

*BLUDGEONS

Morning star (weapon)

A morning star is any of several medieval club-like weapons that included one or more spikes. Each used, to varying degrees, a combination of blunt-force and puncture attack to kill or wound the enemy. == DesignEdit == The morning star is a medieval weapon consisting of a spiked club resembling a mace, usually with a long spike extending straight from the top and many smaller spikes around the particle of the head. The spikes distinguish it from a mace, which can have, at most, flanges or small knobs. It was used by both infantry and cavalry; the horseman's weapon had a shorter shaft. The mace...

Welp, that was funnier in my head, must be near bedtime

anyone interested in why a multiprocess model may make sense in some scenarios billmccloskey.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/multiprocess-firefox/… this is Firefox one

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12:51 AM

@Braiam and single core PCs are dead.

Well no, you can buy one for a fiver.

actually, if I go by observations, single core is still a rave in my country

P4 being the most popular

> Right now, if someone discovers an exploitable bug in Firefox, they’re able to pwn users’ computers.

take chrome as an example does it need to have fully seperated parent processes for every tab? or could it have had childlike processes under a main process and accomplished the same goals?

pentium 4 is best

will be better than xeon 6ghz in my heart

@Psycogeek they don't do that anymore

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hmm P4. Good for cold climates. Warms you up in harsh winter.

12:56 AM

how many cores does your brain run on

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;p

at least I don't observe that behavior

script.google.com/macros/s/…

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@Braiam Your country might be partially responsible for global warming.

p4 will never need ln2 cooling

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PIVs are what?

At least a decade old now?

(I consider a slightly upgraded core 2 a bare minimum system now)

12:57 AM

@Braiam i think that is why i am still using a crappy old browser that used a method of that sort, any single tab can crash, but it neither takes 50gig of memory, nor does it take the whole thing down with it.

@JourneymanGeek in more than one way, my friend

every time I see a kali question, I think to myself, "who are you trying to hack huh"

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I'd throw a shitty SSD on them (and they do sata natively) and they're pretty snappy

@oldmud0 damned kiddies. Get of my lawn ;p

is there even an IDE SSD

yup

lots of them amazon.com/128GB-KingSpec-2-5-inch-SM2236-Controller/dp/…

12:59 AM

btw anyone know how to run the clonezilla ISO on a headless server?

my grammar has gone down the toilet

does it have a ssh server? can you preseed it?

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@oldmud0 yes

I went for a 120gb ssd with no additional cache from a chinese manufacturer I've never heard of

@Braiam ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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@oldmud0 got OOB access?

@JourneymanGeek Chinese stuff tends to explode nowadays...

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1:02 AM

@Braiam Nothing there to explode

and that's why I bought 2 ;p

YOU NEVER KNOW!

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(actually pondering using one to store games to reduce loading times)

SInce its got slow read and fast writes

@JourneymanGeek what's OOB? I can physically access the server, and it has a tiny CD drive with a floppy drive right under it

at least his SSD didnt come with 2 bolts in it (for weight) and a flash stick stuck on the side :-)

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@oldmud0 out of band access

1:04 AM

Sure, I can access it as long as I am not banned

there we go lol

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Tho chances are you'd need to hook up a screen

or set up a serial console

drbl.sourceforge.net/faq/fine-print.php?path=./2_System/…

that sounds dirty, @jou, I like it :D

serial console, sounds nice, I have 2 serial ports but how would I do that

I would have to run the cable pretty far wouldn't I

@JourneymanGeek nope it's gotta be without a screen, there's no room for it

<lies>

is my compter kil

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it look ded

running 2k3 in 2k15 is sin

this is wht i get for being poor and a dummy

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1:26 AM

Hm.

i download ram but it stil say it kil

I need an adult... fast...

why

@Braiam if it's an emergency you know who to call

(not ghostbusters)

cube-drone.com/comics/c/relentless-persistence

should I play it dangerously and delete my raid 5 configuration and then recreate it, just changing the size to fit my bigger drives?

1:36 AM

@JourneymanGeek It's on my profile in an image. :D

or should I play it nice and safe and restore backup from clonezilla

ahh let's just do both ok

gg

someone go and break my server

what if you got 1 rep every time someone starred you

not 2, not 5, not 100, not 0.... 1

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@TomWijsman ahh. Then no worries, just a troll.

@oldmud0 what sort of disks? SAS or sata?

@JourneymanGeek scsi

not even serial

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OW.

IT'S NOT EVEN SERIAL

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1:45 AM

Lol.

it has 2 power supplies that makes the lights flicker when I plug each one in

for "redundancy" ...

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So popping out the drive to image it is not an option.

n0p3

there is a slot for external scsi but you can't even find any scsi >500gb

controllers don't even do that much

also there are ONLY 2 USB 1.1 PORTS

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Yeah. Enterprise drives are often smaller.

Tbh. That sounds too shitty to bother with.

I know right but it's the only thing I got

Drives are cheap as dirt

got four 150gb for $40

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1:49 AM

I wonder if you could get a PCI/SCSI card cheap.

oh yeah not to mention that there are 6 nice pci-x slots on the server

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Then you can image or bootstrap an install on another box.

so you can pimp out the server.... with pci cards

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PCI x and PCI are compatible no?

yeah yeah

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1:50 AM

Oh. PCI sata cards are cheapish?

only problem is that none of my computers have more than 2 drive bays

the old ones are all x86

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Meh. I don't use the bays for imaging.

and no pcie

and no money

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Lol. Sounds like me a few years ago.

usually computers nowadays have money lining the sides of the inner chassis

these ones don't

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1:52 AM

Rofl. Not really.

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I've dumpster dived machines before.

I don't bother if its pretty sata tho.

Well didn't.

see, there is money lining the insides of your vcr

bottom line is, all my computers are from another era

where the hardware could mix and match

now there's this computer in the family room which is a monitor and the computer in one unit

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Lol. All my machines are from the last 10 years or so.

CRT? :p

or LED

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1:58 AM

LCD

LCD/***

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There's true LED displays made up of many leds

most computers I see aren't even qualified for today's games

there is an increasing disparity between gaming computers and just desktops

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@oldmud0 oldest machines I have in working nick are core 2 duo

@oldmud0 tho onboard video is almost good enough for gaming.

I use a celeron nuc as a home server.

Totally not a gaming box.

@oldmud0 quite true but most gaming boxes are a little excessive too.

They're more track day cars than Toyota Corollas.

one of the most WTF post I've read on SE, seriously

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2:08 AM

Rofl

no, it's a serious concern that people fall for it

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@Braiam its a social not a technical problem.

My dad nearly fell for the 'I'm lost in a foreign country' scam

it's a technical problem... those people should never have been given a PC with internet in first place

:/

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Lol.

My mom is not tech savvy but is sceptical. My dad has been told to pass on any emails like that to me :p

O_O

mine don't know how to read :/

I have to read every mail he doesn't know of

and alert box

and notification

and and... yeah

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2:16 AM

Better than cleaning up afterwards.

on the third hand, my country has officially a black friday

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@oldmud0 What the fuck is this shit

3:17 AM

@Braiam took me a while to get it...

You know why internet explorer sucks?

....Exactly.

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3:40 AM

@TomWijsman heh, I got a very similar trolling attempt on my blog.

4:13 AM

@JourneymanGeek lol

That's terrible

I haven't seen such a harsh temperature gradient in the US for such a long time

My area went from 70 degrees to 50 degrees in 2 hours

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(Also since I've been trolled before, and have a ton of spam, and few legit comments, I moderate most comments manually so.... this wouldn't even turn up on my blog(

300 miles south of my area, it's a nice comfy 73 degrees F. 300 miles north, it's raining sleet.

Here, it's raining ~~cats and dogs~~ mice and keyboards.

I forgot how to strikethrough

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5:09 AM

rip chat

5:44 AM

lol

1 hour later…

7:09 AM

@JourneymanGeek Massdrop is doing a lot of grab bags these days :P

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@Bob heh, never really got into that

@JourneymanGeek I tried two. Went okay, but now I have even more unused headphones.

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I'm going to be in the market for a new monitor and speakers once I have a job again ><

lol

That is why I never got into that XD

@JourneymanGeek I dunno, I'm building up quite the collection of mid-priced headphones :P

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@Bob: Heh, with hardware, I get little but good ;p

7:15 AM

@JourneymanGeek You never did answer if you'd be interested in Keep Talking :P

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Oh!

Isn't that for VR?

and needs a book?

Though the hardest part would be trying to schedule a time when everyone's on.

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yeah

@JourneymanGeek It has a VR version, but not required.

@JourneymanGeek Manual is a 40-page PDF.

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ahh

7:16 AM

It's also freely available, so technically only one person actually needs to buy the game.

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Never really looked at the game XD

@JourneymanGeek => youtube.com/watch?v=5BhHkvHcUfo

That was the last level, IIRC. Very fast-paced. Earlier levels are far easier (and don't need as many people).

I tend to like co-op games. Never tried a puzzle one though.

@JourneymanGeek Wait, another new monitor? o.O

Though I'm somewhat tempted to replace one of mine. The old 17" one that only supports VGA @_@

=> pcworld.com/product/1410362/lg-17-series-l1717s-sn-monitor.html

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@Bob my second monitor died

Well it didn't die die

Ouch.

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It won't work for more than 10 minutes at a stretch

7:23 AM

O_O

Overheating?

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SO thinking of taking a risk with one of the korean ones

Dosen't feel like it

Completely powers off after 10 minutes

Of course, once I get a job, I can slum it out with one monitor ;p

@JourneymanGeek If it trips a thermal fuse, that could still do it.

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Yeah

I doubt most monitor manufacturers would bother implementing some nice display on overheat.

@JourneymanGeek Have you tried opening it up?

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I'm guessing its power related since it totally goes off

erm

No

7:25 AM

@JourneymanGeek Well, your computer would also turn off if the CPU overheats. So not necessarily a power issue.

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Its not very user-friendly, taking apart wise

@JourneymanGeek ...weird screws? Glue?

What model is it?

Hm. Dell P2414H goes for $173 "as new" on the Dell Outlet. That's a tempting price.

Only downside would be the reduced warranty (3yrs => 1yr)

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ST2410

@JourneymanGeek Huh, also Dell.

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Yeah

Its old tho

hm. Is there any way to filter out stuff that won't ship to singapore on ebay?

(one of the two 'reputable' places that sell those korean screens have US only items)

ahh that's dumb

7:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek Uhh... on the left?

I have mine filtered to those that ship to Australia only.

Occasionally one that doesn't ship here still gets through. Somehow.

@JourneymanGeek What eBay site do you use?

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Odd. That's only for actual location.

Maybe it's because I'm logged in?

Or maybe it tried to geolocate me...

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Apparently their ebay store only has the US shipping items

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That's in advanced search on ebay.com

Could've sworn I've gotten this to work before...

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ebay.com.sg/itm/…

Oh!

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Looking at once of these for a second screen

(another seller)

7:38 AM

@JourneymanGeek If you sort by something with postage or distance, you'll get the "Shipping to ..." just under the sort selection.

@JourneymanGeek You and your giant 4k monitors -_-

@JourneymanGeek how old is the monitor? Could be a dodgy capacitor in the power supply...

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@Mokubai: er.... ~4-5 I think

and the power supply is built in

Should be after the worst of the cap plague :P

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hm

It a bit young for the capacitor plague problem, but still a possibility

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7:40 AM

@Bob: oh, the alternative is QHD

But at that price, I'm trading off IPS for more resolution

and its not like I'm going to art on it.

Repaired a few monitors of a particular era with a £0.30 capacitor..

I don't have IPS or 4k on the desktop.

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@Mokubai: Been there, done that.

Laptop is an IPS fake-QHD though.

Yes. fake.

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lol

7:41 AM

Because RGBW.

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@Bob a lot of those monitors do fake 4k/5k ;p

=> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family#PenTile_RGBW

You can see the white dots in coloured text.

Also breaks ClearType on Win8 :S

Not sure if Win10 can deal with it.

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@Bob I still consider the Dell 4K I have the best monitor you can buy for not too ludicious amounts of money ;p

@JourneymanGeek "not too"

:S

How much did you pay again?

Actually, laptop isn't even QHD.

wtf is 3200x1800?

"WQXGA+" gee, that's easy to remember...

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@Bob: Just under 1000sgd.

7:44 AM

> Wide Quad Extended Graphics Array Plus

Who comes up with these names?!

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One step up in any direction and you easily double the cost.

@JourneymanGeek Pretty sure that's almost as much as I paid for my entire computer in 2011

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@Bob Ok, for certain values of ludicious? ;p

Though the incremental upgrades have added a fair bit more since...

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>_>

(My new video card probably cost a good chunk of my original build cost)

7:46 AM

@JourneymanGeek 980Ti, was it? ...yea, that'd do it

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;p

@JourneymanGeek That's because almost no-one really needs those :P

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yup

Even 27" is a bit big for many people.

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@Bob Unless if you decide you want to try gaming at 4k.

@Bob: I almost went 24"

but the price differencial isn't that huge

7:47 AM

@JourneymanGeek Oh, I was referring to the monitor, though that goes for the GPU as well :P

It really is a bit of an outlier as far as consumer parts go.

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And scientifically speaking, 27 inches is the sweetspot for desktop 4k

@JourneymanGeek Yea, if you want 4k, 27" is probably the better option. Less scaling too - we all know how well Windows programs tend to deal with that.

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lol

I think I run at 150% scaling.

@JourneymanGeek O_O

The highest I currently use is 125%. On my laptop. Which is 3200x1800 on a 13.3" screen.

...then again people look at it and ask why the text is so small -_-

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Oh, 150% is what MS recommends

7:50 AM

Yea, 150% was recommended for me too. But everything looked comically big.

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lol

And it broke even more programs.

I still can't get Samsung Magician to show the bottom parts of some tables.

@Bob that resolution seems unnecessary.

@Mokubai It is :P

But I can talk, I have a 5.7 inch phone with 2560 x 1600

7:52 AM

10 mins ago, by Bob

Laptop is an IPS fake-QHD though.

10 mins ago, by Bob

Because RGBW.

I really should've stuck with 1920x1080

@Mokubai I was kinda annoyed with 1366x768, and then went overkill in the other direction.

Was a bad choice. But too late to change now.

Oh, right, pentile, probably also reduces the real resolution of my phone as well

@Mokubai Looks like shit on the laptop.

My phone is 1440 x 2560 on 5.5". Looks fine but entirely unnecessary.

I'd rather the extra battery life...

Did you look at it in a shop or buy it online?

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i.imgur.com/dfH6kVb.png (imagine this 27 inches at real size ;p)

Funny thing? They put in a "game mode" that reduces it to 1920x1080 when it "detects" a game, but they don't let you just toggle the res :(

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7:54 AM

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@Mokubai Online. For both laptop and phone.

I don't think any local shops stock 3200x1800 @ 13.3" (there's some Lenovo, Dell and Asus laptops with that IIRC)

But mine was a custom-ish Clevo/Horize

Sounds expensive and most shops stock the naff versions of most things

Phone was purchased online. Looked at it in-store first, but it's not like that res is uncommon now.

@Mokubai True... was $2k

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>_>

A phone is a phone, you see one and they're all the same, but when you actually have different versions of a screen....

7:56 AM

and I got screwed over on warranty. Paid extra for the 3 years, and the bloody shop filed bankruptcy about a week after they finally got mine out.

After being stable for 6+ years!

Lol

Sorry, shouldn't laugh

I even specifically researched how long they've been operating for. Very well liked by locals.

But that is bloody typical

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@Bob heh, I don't believe in warranties that much.

@JourneymanGeek Both HP laptops I've owned have been repaired under warranty.

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7:57 AM

Except for dealing with infant mortality

Twice for the second one.

Both had issues with screen failure, and the hinge failed too on the second one.

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@Bob the USB port incident with lenovo wasn't resolved to my satisfaction

The brix was but that's under the standard warranty

and I'm aiming for 4-5 years at most on that.

Was near the end of the 1-year manufacturer warranty for the first screen, and the hinge (apparently known issue, since they skimped on the hinge to stick a Beats "subwoofer" in there, what a joke).

I left it a week before buying my last computer, the shop went bust before I got back...

Second screen was within the shop extended warranty.

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7:58 AM

lol

I buy very stock laptops.

I might switch over to netbooks and just replace them every 3 years or so ;p

The shop extended warranty didn't cost extra for me, so I went with it... was some bundle package. They were happy to reduce laptop+warranty price below laptop original price, sooooo

@JourneymanGeek This was my first custom-ish laptop.

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