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12:08 AM

@allquixotic a good question for you!

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Q: ext4 vs btrfs performance on SSD array

I am observing something that I cannot explain. I am trying to come up with a good filesystem configuration using HP P420i controller and SSDs. Out of curiosity I have tried BTRFS (still unstable so I can't really expect to be able to use it) and noticed that the read speed is about 150% of ext4 ...

Journeyman Geek

12:23 AM

@allquixotic: The room ;p

also I try to write for the blog when I can

Journeyman Geek

1:12 AM

ooh. Apparently you can connect banana clips to each other.

0_0

I'm watching the tested arcade cabinet video.

They... actually have what looks like a MIB CRT

Bob

1:37 AM

@jou banana plugs*

Journeyman Geek

;p

Yeah, those

Bob

alligator clips, banana plugs

Bob

2:14 AM

@allquixotic Do you happen to know if xrdp can do NLA?

looks like a "not yet" :\

and it looks like, at least as of 2012, fail2ban won't work with xrdp because xrdp doesn't log the remote host on auth fail

Journeyman Geek

2:32 AM

Yay

my dad got fed up with me having trouble 'acquiring' a copy of matlab, and got me to buy him a copy ;p

Bob

o.O

obvious audit is obvious

I don't review much... the comment made sense, but then the actual edit confused the fuck out of me

Journeyman Geek

Eh. Turns out my backup worked ;)

If I screw something up, I can 'just' reimage from my most recent image and get things working again

excellent!

Michael Frank

@Bob wtf?

Bob

2:48 AM

@MichaelFrank review audits -_-

Michael Frank

2:59 AM

Yea, just wtfing at that edit

Journeyman Geek

10:21 AM

man, its quiet today

Bob

achoo

Journeyman Geek

10:37 AM

eh, rtorrent install went perfectly in ubuntu

I'll throw a vm together and try to work out why it won't work in fedora at some point

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Because Fedora!

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank: partially cause things are different, and I was messing with too many variables at once ;p

Michael Frank

Journeyman Geek

apparently fedora packages xml-rpc enabled rtorrent, but the layout they use for lighttpd modules are different

Oliver Salzburg

11:40 AM

Why does this keep happening? :(

In case it's not apparent, the mouse-over effect of clicked context-menu items permanently remains on my screen

Reproducable and only resolvable by restarting uxsms

Hennes

Gives up, downloads unix tools for windows and goesd to get coffee.

Over two hours in powershell and I still have not got it to do the same as a simple cut -f -d"(" does in unix

Oliver Salzburg

11:57 AM

@Hennes Try echo cut: invalid byte or field list

That seems to be the equivalent for me ;D

Hennes

12:15 PM

C:\Users\310150295> Select-String '\\130.141.90.70\Sofon$\SOFONDB\SOFON_Logfiles\EPALQueueBackground\EPALQueueBackg‌round_log.txt' -pattern "End Export"

Which has a lot of long lines.

I am only interested in part of those output lines

\\130.141.90.70\Sofon$\SOFONDB\SOFON_Logfiles\EPALQueueBackground\EPALQueueBackground_log.txt:1855:8/27/2014 10:14
AM EPAL: xml itemdef start generation for Product version (860315 - PageWriter TC70 Cardiograph - 6 - 0)
\\130.141.90.70\Sofon$\SOFONDB\SOFON_Logfiles\EPALQueueBackground\EPALQueueBackground_log.txt:1856:8/27/2014 10:14
AM EPAL: xml itemdef generated for Product version (**860315 - PageWriter TC70 Cardiograph** - 6 - 0)

Journeyman Geek

12:27 PM

@Hennes I tend to install GOW for that

Hennes

I was looking for something which could run on a regular win7 installation at work without needing to install extra software

That Brazilian Guy

OH MY GOD IT IS SO FAST!!!

30sec to download Ubuntu O_o

Marc Rasmussen

Hey guys

Does anyone here know anything about Centos 6 and php-mysql client?

Journeyman Geek

12:53 PM

@MarcRasmussen: not really, but I suspect its the mixed repos that's the problem

@ThatBrazilianGuy: whoa. Did you finally get moved off the internet backroads?

HackToHell

@ThatBrazilianGuy Jelly.

Journeyman Geek

@Hennes: Thats true, but I think you can extract and run gow too

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek Yesterday I found out the forensic lessons I'm having are taking place on a building that's the backbone for all the city's government institutions

Journeyman Geek

ah hah!

That Brazilian Guy

...I think I won't be passing the lessons. For the next few years. :P

Journeyman Geek

12:56 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy: rofl

Journeyman Geek

2:02 PM

Oh neat

I'm reasonably certain I managed to kill one of my cheapo USB drives

hm, that's not cool

I seem to be having issues accessing my ttrss instance

Oliver Salzburg

@ThatBrazilianGuy Neat!

Journeyman Geek

and irc bouncer dropped out

Marc Rasmussen

Hey guys

Moving a folder from local linux machine through ssh how come this doesnt work?

scp /var/www/system_learningbank/ root@89.104.220.207:/var/www/system_learningbank/
root@89.104.220.207's password:
bash: scp: command not found
lost connection

Journeyman Geek

Oh nice. the VPS I run a bouncer and tt-rss is down ;p

Bob

@Hennes what on earth does -f do without an argument? (what @OliverSalzburg said)

Journeyman Geek

2:16 PM

actually no, the host's website is down too

Bob

@JourneymanGeek is it that one hosted by your friend? :P

@MarcRasmussen try installing scp

Marc Rasmussen

@bob on the server? its a CentOs server

Bob

@MarcRasmussen utdream.org/post.cfm/scp-command-not-found-centos-6-ubuntu-12

@Hennes Also, the equivalent of cut in PS/.NET is usually String.Split

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: kinda

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...how can that be kinda

Journeyman Geek

2:22 PM

They got bought over, so I have no idea how long I get to use the VPS

Bob

O_O

so... you managed to carry over a free VPS to a company you don't know at all?

awesome :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I DID mention I needed to move out, right?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek guy wants to build this computer for gaming :P

> Current games I play are:

GTA
CS GO
TF2

One of the main games id like to play is Watch Dogs I know I know its had its up and downs but id like to give it a go with the Worse Mod ofcourse.

Not sure if my proposed replacement is over kill to get the best experiance.

> overkill

You think?

Journeyman Geek

not reallly?

tho

will that card fit in that case?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek barely

287mm < 290mm

lol

@JourneymanGeek come on, devil's canyon i7 with liquid cooling?

Journeyman Geek

2:35 PM

@Bob: that's remarkably close to what I MIGHT have built ;p

given a slightly less limited budget

Bob

@JourneymanGeek still completely overkill for gaming

unless you were doing something with simulation or a shitton of physics on the CPU

might as well get an i5

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I'd argue there is no such thing

;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek consider you'd have 3/4 cores sitting completely unused most of the time

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: >_>

annnd?

Bob

you're paying extra for no benefit?

Journeyman Geek

2:40 PM

if it wasn't a K model, the water cooling might be utterly silly. Its a ricebox ;p

Bob

cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2236&cmp[]=2226

compare the i5 and i7

Journeyman Geek

erm. You do realise I'm currently chatting on a quad core, core i7 with 16 gb of ram, right? ;p

Bob

the i7 mostly adds HT

single-thread performance is the same

Darth Android

@Bob You'd be surprised how frequently a 4.4GHz i7 gets maxxed out when not doing stuff like video encoding.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm talking about recommending hardware for a guy who says, and I quote, " I mainly use it to play games.".

I have an i7. And even then it's mostly sitting wasted...

Journeyman Geek

2:42 PM

@Bob: I nearly went with 32 gb of ram and water cooling on this rig

I'm kinda glad I didn't but...

I could do 90% of what I do on that little celeron box I bought last week

Bob

@DarthAndroid Do tell.

Journeyman Geek

(of course, this isn't a gaming rig)

Other than the video card, its built so I could run VMs.

Darth Android

(Granted, I abuse that computer like nobody's business, but... eh.)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek that was the main purpose of mine

even then I find it difficult to max it out

Journeyman Geek

and I could probably upgrade the video card for some benefit

Bob

2:44 PM

hence not bothering to upgrade for the last four years

Journeyman Geek

but its a Gforce 660, Its good enough

oh. and that.

I got sick and tired of getting kicked off the shared box

Bob

we've long passed the point where modern midrange CPUs are powerful enough for just about everything you throw at them in daily use

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: eh. If I was building a pure VM box now, I'd go with a core i5 with VT-D

Actually I went with a core i7 because I was under budget and I figured having vt-d would mean I could just stick more ram, and use it just to run VMs when I next upgraded

Darth Android

@Bob Dropbox, Crashplan, Outlook, console windows, task manager, skype, Chrome with a bazillion tabs, and whatever other background processes I have easily prevent the CPU from dropping below 10% utilization

allquixotic

@DarthAndroid exactly -- my issue isn't so much that a single task can peg the CPU (though during loading of many programs the CPU can be pegged for several seconds, so load times can still be reduced by higher single-thread perf) but that you have to shut down a lot of background stuff when you're on a low-end system to keep it sane

Darth Android

2:48 PM

There's never just one offender, but when you get enough stuff running, the CPU is always busy with something

Hennes

Home!

Bob

@DarthAndroid 1. That's very different from maxing it out, 2. If those listed processes are causing significant constant utilisation, something else is wrong.

Journeyman Geek

oh

Bob

Also, don't talk to me about "a bazillion tabs" :P

Darth Android

@Bob Oh, not one of them is causing significant or constant utilization.

Journeyman Geek

2:49 PM

I had it mentioned on the comms room, and I'm not sure if its a stupid question

allquixotic

@Bob a bazillion Chrome tabs are a lot more resource-intensive than a bazillion FF tabs

Darth Android

@Bob Oh, I mean that as a reference, since I know you understand :)

Journeyman Geek

but what's the practical advantage of more processor cache?

Bob

@allquixotic Well, that's his fault for using Chrome, then!

Darth Android

@JourneymanGeek Less harddrive accesses

Journeyman Geek

2:49 PM

on a processor?

Bob

I can easily go 800+ FF tabs with maybe 1% CPU utilisation

Journeyman Geek

let me correct that

Darth Android

Ah, oh.

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek (assuming you mean CPU cache) basically, instead of memory throughput being a potential bottleneck, that bottleneck is replaced with CPU cache bottleneck, which is a much, much higher ceiling

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That's very task-dependent.

Darth Android

2:50 PM

^

Journeyman Geek

yeah

allquixotic

memory bandwidth and/or latency is pretty damn fast on, say, DDR3-2000 or so, and it'll be amazing with DDR4 coming out in the next few years, but cache on the CPU package is still amazingly faster than RAM

and having lots of data that you're working with frequently within the CPU cache prevents those requests from ever hitting your system memory

Journeyman Geek

(this came up when we were talking about dinky little celery nucs, and how there mere meg of cache didn't slow stuff much)

Bob

If you're switching a lot between different programs in general use, it's not gonna make much difference. If you're doing some high-performance computing task, it'll matter more.

allquixotic

CPU cache is awesome for stuff like, having multi-hundred-megabyte data structures (trees, hash tables, arrays, etc) in RAM and having a program run through them processing items repeatedly in a loop with an O(n) or worse algorithm

Bob

2:52 PM

A tight loop doing some processing with all the data within the cache can be orders of magnitude faster than one that has to access system memory.

Hennes

Aye.

allquixotic

a lot of programs we use on a daily basis have algorithms like those within them, but we often end up only processing smallish amounts of data, not many thousands or millions of items

Hennes

I once got 15 times faster result when I added some coast.

Bob

Switching between FF and MS Word? CPU cache isn't gonna help there.

Hennes

(Dos program using 400KB, the coast stick expanded RAM from 256KiB to 512KiB)

P1-era

allquixotic

2:53 PM

switching between FF and MS Word, RAM will help you

or at least an SSD as the page file, as I've demonstrated :P

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I'm a firm believer in as much ram as possible

Bob

@allquixotic I wonder what the speed difference is.

I can never remember RAM throughput numbers -_-

allquixotic

@Bob well, what's the throughput of DDR3-1333?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Depends

Bob

@allquixotic ^

Hennes

2:54 PM

Hmm, not as much as possible. But much more than is average

Darth Android

@Bob To give a better idea of what I mean by constant utilization, at any given time there are 20+ processes using on average 0.5% CPU. These 20+ processes are different every second, but there are at least 20 of them each second

Journeyman Geek

Apparently if you have an AMD APU it matters a lot

otherwise, not much difference

allquixotic

my Samsung 850 Pro 128 GB is hard-capped at 3 Gbit/s by the original "eSATA-II" controller, plus latency for it having to go over PCIe -> QPI

Bob

@DarthAndroid I still think you have something weird going on. I haven't seen my process count drop below 150 in years, and it's often above 200. None of them are that hungry.

Hennes

the 'GPU' on the APU shared the ram bandwidth. Faster ram help a lot in that case

allquixotic

2:55 PM

@Hennes I thought Intel iGPUs use the CPU cache too?

Hennes

No idea if it holds for intels. I guess it should.

allquixotic

@Bob Crashplan uses a fair bit of CPU; I use it so I know :P even when you have nothing going on it is periodically scanning for any changes to files it needs to back up

Darth Android

@Bob I see it on both desktop and work laptop, never seemed odd to me. The processor is speed-stepping, so it's often at reduced speeds, but there's still always something going on.

Hennes

Back when APU were new you extra fast (and extra expensive) RAM was worth it

Bob

@allquixotic Not Iris Pro, the one with the extra eDRAM cache

Darth Android

2:56 PM

@allquixotic Crashplan doesn't scan, windows notifies it

allquixotic

@Bob it should be able to use the eDRAM and the L3 and the System RAM, IIRC

Bob

huh, that eDRAM is also available to the CPU O_O

allquixotic

@Bob Yep :D

Darth Android

It only has to do a scan on startup

allquixotic

@DarthAndroid I figured it wasn't polling, but the kernel has to callback whenever the VFS layer mutates a file descriptor or metadata, I guess

Bob

2:57 PM

@DarthAndroid Mine varies between 0 and 7-8 (usually 0 or 1 while you watch it). If it was hovering above 10, I'd consider something wrong.

Huh... indianexpress.com/article/technology/mobile-tabs/…

I wonder if Intel can sue over that.

allquixotic

@Bob DDR3-1333 peaks at 10.666 Gbit/s.

Bob

also, eww

$200 for that pile of junk?

allquixotic

That's way faster than what an SSD would be capable of, even with eSATA version 3

I've occasionally applied enough memory pressure on this system (the one I'm typing on now with 2 GB of DDR3-1333 and the page file entirely on the Samsung 850 Pro attached to eSATA 3 Gbit/s) to cause severe swapping... and when I try to restore, say, an Eclipse-based application, I see black widgets (the textures have been swapped out to disk) for about 1/2 of a second.

When the pagefile is on the HDD, I don't even see the window itself for 3 or 4 seconds, and then the textures take about 9 seconds to fully load.

Eh. It's an improvement.

12 seconds down to 0.5? 8 GB of RAM still runs circles around it, but the SSD in turn runs circles around the HDD.

Bob

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Q: Why does everyone face the same way on the transporter?

When the away team prepares to beam down, they invariably assume the transporter formation: standing upright, usually with arms slack aside, all facing the camera. When they beam down, they reappear in the same formation and poses, as that's how the transporter works. However, they do this even ...

star-trek

@allquixotic You should see my laptop.

Slowest modern HDD ever.

allquixotic

lol

is it one of those 4200 RPM or so? I've seen those going in small laptops lately for power savings

less RPM translates to less power consumption, and it's still very economical to cram, say a terabyte into a tiny hard disk

Bob

3:04 PM

@allquixotic 5400

but I often see queue times of over two seconds

actually, it has a UHS-I card reader, and I recently got some nice Samsung USH-I MicroSDs... could use those for swap, or readyboost

but it'd probably burn out the NAND pretty fast

allquixotic

geez, 7200rpm disks are slow enough... unfortunately, they do drain a significant amount of power, and it's hard to design an HDD that can reliably and quickly do many start->stop cycles, so you have to keep it spinning constantly, which drains energy :/

my next laptop will definitely have an SSD, I can say that for certain... you just have to deal with the expense and/or write cycles and/or capacity... there are way too many downsides to HDDs in laptops. shock damage, constant power drain, slooooooow, etc

you can make HDDs work on a desktop with the right RAID controller ;) and energy is less important

Bob

@allquixotic I'm pretty decided on that now, too. Unless it's another emergency laptop purchase -_-

I have a nice 2TB portable HDD for anything big

namely, videos and ISOs

Journeyman Geek

hehe.

allquixotic

you might want to buy your next laptop with the cheapest-available storage solution (just because they require you to have one -_-) then buy a Samsung 850 Pro to stick in there

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I think some of the early 4tb drives are 5900rpm

allquixotic

3:08 PM

best tradeoff between durability, capacity and speed that I've ever seen in an SSD

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: or whatever's replacing it at the time

Bob

@allquixotic I don't really like fiddling with laptop drives :\

allquixotic

*and price, too, let's not forget that

@JourneymanGeek true

Bob

actually

saw some decent SSD prices recently

allquixotic

still, when you look at the SSD market overall, you see a lot of offerings that are seriously skewed in one direction or another

Bob

3:09 PM

I might actually consider that, but...

Journeyman Geek

Samsung does make generally well rounded drives

allquixotic

the enterprise shit is skewed on the price axis to beyond affordability

Bob

580 GB used... I wonder what for O_O

allquixotic

the cheapo shit wears out too fast (hello OCZ)

Journeyman Geek

I have a 840 (not pro) and its awesome

Bob

3:09 PM

and let's not forget the damn 25 GB recovery partition

allquixotic

also some of the cheapo SSDs are actually slow

hard to fathom, but yes

Journeyman Geek

but I'll likely consider getting a nicer, non TLC ssd in future, imaging it, and sticking it in my laptop

@allquixotic: even compared to spinning rust?

Bob

hm

@allquixotic do you know how to migrate an UEFI OS?

Journeyman Geek

(Granted, I usb booted... and that was horridly slow. Until the drive died ;p)

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek well, some "SSDs" being sold at alibaba, amazon, etc are little more than one or two microSD cards. you do the math. :P

Bob

3:10 PM

is it enough to just clone the partition(s)?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I've seen kits for those ;p

allquixotic

@Bob grabbing the entire disk at a block level will do it... other than that, you'd have to grab every partition, since the EFI SYSTEM PARTITION is just a regular partition, there's nothing in the "MBR" (the GPT equivalent) except a list of what partitions there are and what are bootable

Journeyman Geek

(and mini PCi, 2 slot sata cards. ... which mystify me)

allquixotic

there's no actual boot code in the GPT outside of what's within the partitions themselves, so if you can't for some reason clone the entire disk at a block level, taking all the partitions should be fine

Journeyman Geek

"Oh, I don't have enough drives. I know, I'll remove my wifi card and put 2 more hard drives there"

allquixotic

3:12 PM

just make sure to set the correct flags on the partitions (mirroring what you have now) when you restore them! :P

you'll see the flags in gparted or similar

Bob

@allquixotic I can't clone a 750 GB HDD onto a 240 GB SSD, unfortunately

that would have been the obvious solution

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: in theory you can resize and do it?

Bob

eww.

allquixotic

well like I said the GPT only keeps track of flags and the list of partitions and their start and end locations in logical blockspace (and their optional "label")

copying the partitions as they are, plus their flags and labels, should be fine

good thing you aren't booting Linux by GUID though because copying over your partition would probably change its GUID

for Windows, worst case, you just have to use bcdedit to re-do the boot code in the EFI SYSTEM PARTITION

which can be done from the recovery console on an install DVD

Bob

now if only I had such a DVD :P

Hennes

3:15 PM

@allquixotic peers at the shiny new RAID card next to the desktop. (SAS2008 based)

allquixotic

@Hennes what make/model? I have an Adaptec 6405E

Hennes

SuperMirco SMC2308IT, revision 16.00.01 IT with chipRev 05

Just writing all that data down :)

allquixotic

huh. not familiar with

Bob

oh yea, there was that msata slot... I really need to see about putting an ssd cache in there

allquixotic

careful with mSATA SSDs. I have one in my NUC that's about as slow as a HDD

Hennes

3:17 PM

Small low height supermicro card. PCE v3 x8, SAS2.0, two port and two breakout cables to SATA

Bob

@allquixotic brand?

allquixotic

it's probably two microSD chips in some kind of striping

Hennes

The breakout cables are annoyingly stiff.

Bob

I'm more worried that it won't work at all

allquixotic

@Bob myDigitalLife or something?

Hennes

3:17 PM

Unlike the two already in the desktop

Bob

damn HP whitelists

@allquixotic ...that's a forum

allquixotic

o

let me search my email :P

Bob

anyawy, I was looking at a Samsung 840 Evo

Read Speed (MB/s) 	540
Write Speed (MB/s) 	520
Random Read IOPS 	97,000
Random Write IOPS 	66,000
Maximum IOPS 	98,000

I'd actually trust Samsung's specs

allquixotic

amazon.com/gp/product/B00DY5C7AY?ref_=pe_527950_34207370

that's what I have

Bob

...that's your own fault for buying that shit :P

allquixotic

3:18 PM

-____-

Journeyman Geek

lol

allquixotic

don't blame me! :(

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: Who can we blame? ;p

Braiam

@JourneymanGeek the entire world? is easier to keep count, no?

Bob

O_O HP power cord recall h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/…

3

...fuck mine is one of them

allquixotic

3:22 PM

@Bob :(

turn off your laptop nao or it might catch fire!

Bob

> Based on the nature of this issue, HP is requesting that you immediately discontinue use of the subject AC power cords by removing it from the wall outlet and ordering a replacement AC Power Cord upon verification from the program Web site.
NOTE:The notebook will function using battery power.

Yes, because my laptop will run long enough for the delivery...

... ... ...

allquixotic

> The notebook will function using battery power.

NO WORRIES! WE GOT U COVERED BRAH

Bob

where do they think these batteries get their power from?

allquixotic

just buy 5000 batteries to last through the wait

Bob

it's like... "don't worry about unplugging it, it'll keep running!"

well... thanks... that's kinda why I bought it

allquixotic

3:23 PM

do they make you ship the one you have back, then wait, then get the new one? or can they ship you the new one now?

Bob

@allquixotic not sure, checking now

I have a spare charger or two, so I can just do it one at a time :P

their problem if they have to pay twice, if they make me ship it

h30652.www3.hp.com

allquixotic

oh good, you have spares... that means you can risk your life in order to keep using your laptop, while you wait for them to ship you a safe one :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

allquixotic

once you get at least one safe one though you'll be fine

Journeyman Geek

if its just the cords it standard

snarf one off a non HP laptop?

allquixotic

3:25 PM

is it the PSU inline with the cord, or just the cord?

Bob

just the cord

allquixotic

what, did they source from a shoddy manufacturer that uses wood as an insulator?

Bob

one of those mickey mouse ones

IEC C6

> Your AC Power Cord is not affected and is not part of this replacement program. You may continue using your AC Power Cord. Thank you for your cooperation.

phew

allquixotic

as for that pc parts picker link you provided earlier, Bob, I think that guy isn't exactly going overboard, if he plans to play AAA games going forward. the 4790K isn't even the highest-end CPU available; he isn't going for the enthusiast platform! so you can give him credit for having restraint in that matter :P

Bob

now to test the replacement

allquixotic

3:27 PM

he's just getting the fastest available mainstream (air quotes) CPU available ;p

Bob

@allquixotic it's still more than necessary :P

allquixotic

good future-proofing ;p

Bob

the highest i5 is 30% cheaper

a good $100

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

future-proofing? sure, but if it's entirely unnecessary...

allquixotic

3:28 PM

meh, what if he has nothing else to spend that $100 on?

Braiam

Welcome to SU Zoo

Bob

@allquixotic hey, he posted on a site that hunts for bargains and deals

allquixotic

@Bob I retract my statement

it's still more than necessary

you don't go trying to get a "bargain" and buy the highest-end CPU available

that's not how bargains work

Journeyman Geek

;p

@Braiam: two dogs and a fox do not a zoo make. Unless its a chinese zoo, then the fox is also a dog.

Bob

ok, second charger also unaffected

...shit my brother has one too

need to check that tomorrow -_-

allquixotic

3:31 PM

hey, I'm a smilis sadis! I count in the zoo too!

Kate

@JourneymanGeek that would make it a pound

allquixotic

smilii sadii are native to the dreary, socially-repressive mid-Atlantic region of the United States

Braiam

@JourneymanGeek two dogs, a fox, a raccoon, dinosaur...

Bob

> The system is not designed to do what you are asking it to do. If a SATA hard drive is installed the system will not look past that drive in the boot order. So when you have the mSSD and the SATA drive in there it is trying to boot only from the SATA drive, which is not bootable. The only way to have the mSATA drive be the Windows boot drive is to install a "bootloader" on the SATA drive, which starts the boot process and then hands off to the mSATA drive to complete the sequence.

O_O

allquixotic

in the section of wikipedia on smilis sadis about reproduction, it says "None." and moves on to the next topic about how they always complain of their low salary and limited buying power

the dinosaur doesn't belong in a zoo, btw

he belongs in a museum

Journeyman Geek

3:34 PM

;p

Bob

This guy just needs to add a trust me to the end.

allquixotic

LOL

> I'm an HP employee, and I know everything about mSATA and "flatforms"! TRUST ME!

I work with HP employees, occasionally. Let me assure you, being an HP employee is no indicator of competency.

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Journeyman Geek

lol

Braiam

@allquixotic being something is not indicator of competency

Journeyman Geek

I need to set up bt sync again

allquixotic

3:37 PM

@Braiam Wrong. There exists something that you can "be", such that being that something is a strong indicator of competency.

Being the first man to set foot on the moon is a fairly good indicator that you're a competent astronaut.

If you weren't, you probably wouldn't be, period ~~setting foot on anything.~~

Braiam

@allquixotic and as anything in life, there are exceptions

allquixotic

3:55 PM

> If anyone uses SharePoint at work and knows what it looks like out of the box and is curious what it can turn into you can find a list of public websites that run on SharePoint here.

> To view this content, please install Microsoft Silverlight

!!no

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

...

> RAPID is a software-based feature in Samsung's most recent build of Magician. Simply, it uses a gigabyte of system memory for caching hot data. Frequently-used applications are stored in RAM, ideally yielding much faster accesses when that data is needed over and over. Unlike other RAM-based caching solutions, RAPID keeps cached data persistent between reboots by writing information to the SSD itself.

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because the OS cache isn't good enough?

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