Root Access

12:17 AM

I'll try to commit at least 30 minutes every day whenever I can

Maybe even an hour or more.

I've been on and off lately because of academics, but I do have enough spare time to do this and I should be using it for the better of the Super User community.

...and that commitment isn't changing.

When Winter Bash comes along, I'm going to be doing more than ever to contribute to the community.

allquixotic

12:54 AM

Today was Minor But Annoying Car Problem Day.

Michael Frank

Hmm...

Can I remotely enable remote connections from within a network?

Journeyman Geek

I would hope not ;p

Michael Frank

Even if I'm the Administrator of both?

Journeyman Geek

1:14 AM

@ThatBrazilianGuy: I'm a big fan of file based backups + full rebuilds on linux

HackToHell

4:06 AM

Apparently that's Cannabis

That's a weed that used to grow in my garden :S

Damn, I realize this after I move from that place -_-

Michael Frank

!!wiki weeds that look like cannabis

ChatBot John Cavil

@MichaelFrank The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing

Michael Frank

hahahaha

!!okay

ChatBot John Cavil

@MichaelFrank That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Michael Frank

!okay

allquixotic

4:26 AM

!!meme okay

ChatBot John Cavil

Hennes

Hmm, okay.

Make sme feel better that I am not the only one who did not know how cannabis looked (or smelled).

HackToHell

@Hennes It's an earthly cologne ;p

DragonLord

4:49 AM

!!/help

ChatBot John Cavil

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DragonLord

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HackToHell

4:51 AM

IntelliJ sucks at managing libraries :/

DragonLord

aww...

HackToHell

Looks like I have to use gradle .... fml

Journeyman Geek

5:47 AM

0_0

The universe either loves me or hates me.

Hennes

6:03 AM

http://notalwaysright.com/your-connection-is-totally-forked/40467

Now if it only was a spoon.

Journeyman Geek

7:44 AM

superuser.com/questions/842601/… might be a hot question

Journeyman Geek

8:02 AM

or... downvoted the heck down... ;p

Dave

8:28 AM

Are the majority of pictures posted in this room , pictures of cats?

Bob

!!Tell 18695065 yes

ChatBot John Cavil

Dave

ha ha ha ha

Touche!!

and an excellent answer :D

allquixotic

!! s/cats/minnows/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic Are the majority of pictures posted in this room , pictures of minnows? (source)

Bob

8:44 AM

...It's so nice getting an email from the Uni with the subject "Ebola Alert"

Dave

oh crumbs, I hope it's not real?

The email I mean

Bob

@Dave Preemptive warning. They could've chosen a better subject, though.

> This advisory is to update staff and students about our plans to limit the possibility of Ebola cases presenting on campus and to inform you of our travel protocols, which are designed to reduce the risks to our community.

Journeyman Geek

Quality over quantity

!!;p

ChatBot John Cavil

Dave

hmmmmmm

Journeyman Geek

11:23 AM

Ooh. Place i applied to today says they will be in touch for an interview

8

Bob

11:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek :D

Journeyman Geek

12:12 PM

Protip. If someone bitches he can't find someone who can do what you do, that is CLEARLY an opportunity worth sniffing out.

Oliver Salzburg

12:52 PM

@JourneymanGeek If someone bitches he can't find someone who can do what I do, I'd take that as an insult :P Like if someone was to tell me "Man, I wish I could find someone who knows something about computers!" :D

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: Oh, he was saying he couldn't find linux admins, and he'd be happy even if it was someone who knows how to install linux.

;p

I do that a few times a year.

Oliver Salzburg

Heheh, I bet :D

Ah, well, I guess it's a different thing if whoever you're talking to doesn't know you

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Seems like an interesting place to work

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek What do they do?

Journeyman Geek

They're the local branch of a big VFX company

SO tons of storage, serverfarm, lots of linux boxen it seems

Oliver Salzburg

1:00 PM

wat

Journeyman Geek

rofl

I want to close it and reopen it so I can see which idiot did that ;p

Oliver Salzburg

:D

Journeyman Geek

Wait what?

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek It's on the timeline ;)

Journeyman Geek

rofl. Never mind ;p

Jordan Richards

1:02 PM

Hi

Having a random botnet from china it seems trying a routine attack on my server to login as root

Any advice?

Journeyman Geek

Thats normal

Oliver Salzburg

@JordanRichards Switch SSH to a different port

Journeyman Geek

Lots of people suggest switching your ssh port (carefully), and I'm inordinately fond of fail2ban for blocking attempts.

Oliver Salzburg

Be sure to open the port in the firewall before switching ;D

Jordan Richards

ok thanks guys :)

Journeyman Geek

1:04 PM

in faaaaact

14

Q: Should I bother to block these rather lame attempts at hacking my server?

I'm running a LAMP stack, with no phpMyAdmin (yes) installed. While poking through my Apache server logs I noticed things like: 66.184.178.58 - - [16/Mar/2010:13:27:59 +0800] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1170 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)" 200.78.247.148 - - [16/Mar/2010:15:26:05 +...

Jordan Richards

One last question

My screens are randomly closing (screen sessions)

It's not to do with a memory issue.

I cannot really work out what could be causing this.

I'd do screen -S myscreen

node myapp.js

ctrl+a+d

Oliver Salzburg

1. Try byobu

Jordan Richards

then like 3 days later, I'll find that screen -ls returns no results and that the app has ended

Oliver Salzburg

2. Try forever or pm2

Jordan Richards

Thanks! I shall do some googling on those!

Crumbs, I have no idea how to use byobu, I am a linux newbie.

I have installed it successfuly, so I guess that is a start

Would there be a log I could find somewhere explaining what went wrong with my past screens?

forever@0.13.0 node_modules/forever
âââ colors@0.6.2
âââ timespan@2.3.0
âââ optimist@0.6.1 (wordwrap@0.0.2, minimist@0.0.10)
âââ nssocket@0.5.2 (eventemitter2@0.4.14, lazy@1.0.11)
âââ utile@0.2.1 (deep-equal@0.2.1, rimraf@2.2.8, ncp@0.4.2, async@0.2.10, i@0.3.2, mkdirp@0.5.0)
âââ cliff@0.1.9 (eyes@0.1.8)
âââ winston@0.8.3 (cycle@1.0.3, stack-trace@0.0.9, eyes@0.1.8, isstream@0.1.0, async@0.2.10, pkginfo@0.3.0)
âââ nconf@0.6.9 (ini@1.3.0, async@0.2.9, optimist@0.6.0)
âââ flatiron@0.4.2 (optimist@0.6.0, director@1.2.3, prompt@0.2.14, broadway@0.3.6)

I have no idea what is going on, this is what happens when I try installing forever lol

Bob

1:32 PM

@JourneymanGeek I would not recommend fail2ban. False positives from CGN is a real issue.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: eww CGN

Bob

For SSH - if you have a static IP, then you can allow SSH connections only from your own IP. But that's risky - you might not be able to get back in if your own IP changes.

Journeyman Geek

(also, I just have a fallback ip address if that happens ;p)

Bob

Personally, I just make sure to disable password logins.

Journeyman Geek

Oh

and purely key based auth

Bob

1:34 PM

Brute force is completely useless on public key auth.

@JourneymanGeek fail2ban is just a generally bad idea these days

any IP-based blocking is a bad idea

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: hm. I think I disagree, but meh ;p

Jordan Richards

@JourneymanGeek Could you enlighten me?

I am not familiar with how that works.

Bob

Unless you have a business connection/contract, it's difficult to guarantee (a) your IP is never changed and (b) your IP will never be shared with othes (NAT).

Journeyman Geek

@JordanRichards: help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys

AU Ubuntu has excellent documentation which I'd end up cribbing from anyway

Bob

Key auth is already un-bruteforceable. Additional IP banning on top of that is useless at best and outright dangerous (false positives) at worst.

Heck, you might as well use port knocking.

That would actually be useful, if a bit overkill.

Jordan Richards

1:41 PM

Does anyone know what that wall of text means? When I tried npm install forever?

Oliver Salzburg

2:09 PM

@JordanRichards Don't know, haven't used screen in a long time

@JordanRichards Looking good

Dave

Has any one ever used GeoLocation tools? Do you know why between the tools the results are so very very varied?

Oliver Salzburg

@Dave Different databases

Dave

So, there is just no way to accurately know which is right. I'm guessing I would need to query as many databases as I can, and hope the address or comapny name which occurs the most is the accurate one

Seems very hacky :(

Oliver Salzburg

@Dave How accurate do you need?

Dave

2:24 PM

Well, it's all about invasion of privacy really :)

For a website, who (which comapny) visited us but didn't make an enquiry

so they can cold call etc

naturally it only works if they're set up to show this detail

so most of the time, I just see useless numbers and BT / TalkTAlk/Sky etc

but now and then I'll see CompanyX

However, ip2location will say it's COmpanyX in Scotland, ip2Othersite says ComapnyB in England, ipAgain says CompanySJS in Wales...

Oliver Salzburg

2:36 PM

@Dave We do exactly that for some of our clients as well. We actually have a tool to pull the data from Google Analytics

Which relies on the RIPE information connected with the visitors IP address, which is usually pretty reliable information

If the visitor is from random ISP, we usually ignore the traffic in the analysis, because the visitors we care about have their own address ranges with connected company information

What's a RIPE?

!!wiki RIPE

Réseaux IP Européens (RIPE, French for "European IP Networks") is a forum open to all parties with an interest in the technical development of the Internet. The RIPE community’s objective is to ensure that the administrative and technical coordination necessary to maintain and develop the Internet continues. It is not a standards body like the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) and does not deal with domain names like ICANN. RIPE is not a legal entity and has no formal membership. This means that anybody who is interested in the work of RIPE can participate through mailing lists and by attending...

That Brazilian Guy

oh

Oliver Salzburg

> whois 198.252.206.16 | grep Organization
Organization:   Stack Exchange, Inc. (SE-111)

Dave

2:41 PM

hmmmmm

thank you for this info :)

I didn't htink you can do a whois with an IP though?

That Brazilian Guy

The whoisfor an I of my employer returns info from some organization in Mexico

there's an "owner" entry further down, that part is correct. You might want to parse the entire whois reply

Dave

ah, but it can work via the ripe... thing :)

Oliver Salzburg

In case of SE it's ARIN though

Dave

you're making up words now :) :)

he he he

Oliver Salzburg

!!wiki ARIN

Dave

2:45 PM

Let me Google

ChatBot John Cavil

American Registry for Internet Numbers

The American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) is the Regional Internet Registry (RIR) for Canada, the United States, and many Caribbean and North Atlantic islands. ARIN manages the distribution of Internet number resources, including IPv4 and IPv6 address space and AS numbers. ARIN opened its doors for business on December 22, 1997 after incorporating on April 18, 1997. ARIN is a nonprofit corporation with headquarters in Chantilly, Virginia, USA. ARIN is one of five Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) in the world. Like the other RIRs, ARIN: Provides services related to the technical c...

Oliver Salzburg

The whois tool automatically picks the right registry though from my experience

Dave

but again, I thought the whois only looks by name, not by IP?

or am I wrong?

Bob

@Dave Well, IP addresses are not tied to a location anyway.

Dave

I know but that is all I have

Bob

2:48 PM

And looking for the org owner only works if the entity owns that IP. If their provider owns it...

Dave

yes, I know that too... This is why it's such an impossible challenge

So, no way to find location by IP address accurately?

Bob

Nup.

It's easier with businesses - consumers as a rule never own their IP addresses and also tend to have dynamic IPs and CGN (shared)...

But even with businesses it's very hit-and-miss.

Dave

I'm only after business though :)

so, possibly some hope? I mean, I type in my works IP into one of these geolocation it works fine

But this IP 92.54.178.133 could be a variation of companies!!

Bob

@Dave How would you distinguish them?

What if someone is working at home with a private connection?

Oh, look, this IP address registered to Telstra/Comcast/whatever just accessed our website!

Dave

but that is all I need to do! Companies like Lead Forensics do this

I am supposed to offer my client the same service

I explained how difficult it is to accuratley trace them @Bob but, they insist

@OliverSalzburg, are you doing this by IP?

allquixotic

3:21 PM

@JourneymanGeek *raises hand* :D

Dave

eh?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I know, but yanno ;p

Mod privileged information ;p

@allquixotic: I have an interview coming up ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek good luck! make sure you answer every question with "woof!"

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: naturally

I applied today, someone (possible boss) got in touch and said HR will be in touch shortly.

Dave

woof??

Journeyman, you've nearly cost me a fortune by talking abot dogs already :) :) :) I'm now after a keeshond

Journeyman Geek

3:24 PM

woof

;p

Dave

ha ha ha

Journeyman Geek

@Dave: I'm a big fan of rescues.

Oliver Salzburg

@Dave Yes

Dave

@JourneymanGeek, my last was a rescue dog. The Eurasier but, he was a little neurotic sadly... and would have possibly been different if we had from young

but, yes, I have only ever resuced

@OliverSalzburg, Thank you so much. I will start using the RIPE as well! I guess if it's not there then it just means less results, but hopefully more accurate results (nothing worse than me giving incorrect results)

Journeyman Geek

@Dave <--- was a rescue...

(Granted not the usual way, and was 3 months oldish when adopted ;p)

Dave

3:31 PM

Rescue or dumped upon? :)

he he

What is your dogs name?

Journeyman Geek

Ash.

Dave

That's actually a really nice name!

Journeyman Geek

We choose to think the dog adopted the people ;p

Dave

:)

Journeyman Geek

(Actually, original owner thought he'd turn dark with age....)

not particularly bright, that one.

Dave

3:47 PM

the owner?

:)

he he he he

So far, I find the new Firefox Dev edition any different really - other than not having my normal plugins

of which there was only speed dial ha ha

Journeyman Geek

ex-mom ;p

Jordan Richards

4:06 PM

@allquixotic, perhaps you may be able to figure out what is wrong?

I cannot successfuly install forever for node. "npm install forever" gives me a wall of text that I posted above.

terdon

4:27 PM

@JordanRichards You might want to repost it or at least link to it. I see no obvious wall of text

Jordan Richards

forever@0.13.0 node_modules/forever
âââ colors@0.6.2
âââ timespan@2.3.0
âââ optimist@0.6.1 (wordwrap@0.0.2, minimist@0.0.10)
âââ nssocket@0.5.2 (eventemitter2@0.4.14, lazy@1.0.11)
âââ utile@0.2.1 (deep-equal@0.2.1, rimraf@2.2.8, ncp@0.4.2, async@0.2.10, i@0.3.2, mkdirp@0.5.0)
âââ cliff@0.1.9 (eyes@0.1.8)
âââ winston@0.8.3 (cycle@1.0.3, stack-trace@0.0.9, eyes@0.1.8, isstream@0.1.0, async@0.2.10, pkginfo@0.3.0)
âââ nconf@0.6.9 (ini@1.3.0, async@0.2.9, optimist@0.6.0)
âââ flatiron@0.4.2 (optimist@0.6.0, director@1.2.3, prompt@0.2.14, broadway@0.3.6)

I have no idea what is going on, this is what happens when I try installing forever lol

Canadian Luke

5:23 PM

First world problems... Almost 10K Unicorn Tears, barely any ivory (in Kittens)

HackToHell

5:37 PM

yay got to use the Amazon Cloud thingies today ;p

Charged 2.0$ :/

jokerdino

@HackToHell you there?

lol, i wanted to talk to you about gaming dota2 together

HackToHell

@jokerdino BAD IDEA

Alejandra Moreno

hello

HackToHell

5:52 PM

DON'T PLAY THAT GAME

IT SUCKS YOUR SOUL

tooo late dear

It's too addictive

agreed

@jokerdino It's easy to quit for the first month or so

jokerdino

@AlejandraMoreno hi

@HackToHell first week in

HackToHell

5:53 PM

Quit now before you fully understand the game mechanics

jokerdino

i understand the game now

HackToHell

You think you do

jokerdino

i havent grasped the nuances yet though

HackToHell

There's still mooooore

it takes a good 100 hours for you to be classified as a noob.

jokerdino

i am 20 hours in. lol

HackToHell

5:54 PM

I wasted 728 hours of my life playing that fucking awesome game

jokerdino

play with me

what are you in steam?

HackToHell

Bloody Baron steamcommunity.com/id/hacktohell

i have you

@jokerdino I quit :P

pls -_-

5:55 PM

I am trying my best to not download it again

jokerdino

lol ok

HackToHell

This is my third attempt to quit yannow

jokerdino

you shall quit then

forever

HackToHell

And I already have a lot of work to do

@jokerdino That's sad :(

I really wanna play :{

No game excites you after Dota :/

Alejandra Moreno

i hate dota >_>

terdon

6:06 PM

Damn you guys are going to make me install it. Last thing I need is another addictive game. I've only managed to control my addiction by playing Civ and TotalWar series games pretty much exclusively for the last decade or so.

Alejandra Moreno

im playing the evil within, so scary

jokerdino

lol

i was playing dota2 for the past week. branded a noob

has a pretty learning curve

terdon

I try to avoid games really. I'm too afraid I'll like them and do nothing else. It's happened too often in the past :)

jokerdino

yeah, it's happening again

@HackToHell, are you against tf2?

we can bond over tf2 xD

Canadian Luke

@HackToHell Added you on my Steam account

jokerdino

6:16 PM

pls

Psycogeek

7:18 PM

""NSA chief warns Chinese cyber attacks could shut U.S. infrastructure"" uk.reuters.com/article/2014/11/20/… Which is sort of funny when there is a film out (i think red dawn) that the premise of it was china had all the electronics "Chipped" special chips that could just shut everything down on command.

Canadian Luke

@Psycogeek Funny... But I see it as them just trying to scare the public into allowing them to still spy on citizens

allquixotic

7:42 PM

@CanadianLuke or maybe the worst of both worlds: China really is trying to shut down US infrastructure, and the NSA really is trying to spy on everyone for nefarious purposes

Canadian Luke

8:02 PM

Possibly... Good point!

Bob

Hm. Amazon is doing a free international shipping promo... buuuuuut requires an amex card.

bleh

Michael Frank

So... Wrecked my knee last night, Might be an ACL tear. :(

DragonLord

8:22 PM

45

A: How to know a disk is SSD or not on Windows 8

Actually, there's a much simpler solution. Windows Drive Optimizer (formerly Disk Defragmenter) reports whether a drive is an HDD or SSD. You can access this utility by pressing Windows+S, searching for "optimize", and selecting Defragment and optimize your drives. This will generally work in...

Two more votes on JMK's answer, and I'll earn the Populist badge.

Bob

@MichaelFrank :(

How did that happen?

DragonLord

@MichaelFrank Wow

Get well soon

Psycogeek

@CanadianLuke right courttime deflections, misdirections. We have to watch everyones porn, or the bad guys are going to get us.

trenten

8:38 PM

hows it going?

Psycogeek

Hi Trenten.

Canadian Luke

9:01 PM

@Psycogeek Pretty much! But we all know it's to prevent what happened years ago in Egypt, with the mass protests, being planned via the cell network

Oliver Salzburg

9:57 PM

@MichaelFrank :( What's an ACL in this context?

Canadian Luke

!!wiki acl injury

ChatBot John Cavil

@CanadianLuke The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing

Anterior cruciate ligament injury

The anterior cruciate ligament is an important, internal, stabilizer of the knee joint, restraining hyperextension. It is injured when its biomechanical limits are exceeded (over stretched), often with a hyperextension mechanism. Formerly, this occurred most often in a sports contact injury, when other structures were frequently involved. A particularly severe form of the contact injury is called the "unhappy triad" or "O'Donaghue's triad", and involves the anterior cruciate ligament, the medial collateral ligament, and the lateral meniscus. Presently, ACL injury is more commonly a non-contact...

Canadian Luke

I have a few friends who have that. Kinda sucks

Bob

10:15 PM

>

Fri 21 Nov 2014 02:29

Processed through Australia Post facility

2AM? O_O

Journeyman Geek

11:40 PM

Morninh

DragonLord

@JourneymanGeek hello

Journeyman Geek