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1:57 AM
I'm happier than I should be about FINALLY killing a randomly generated fictional character.
 
@EsoBrasileiro sup
 
@allquixotic Brazilian Esso? You mean like this?
 
2:55 AM
I don't know what to do, I am on the 3rd reinstall of the OS already. I want it to be clean, i want it to be overly secure, i want it to be small, and i want it to be fast, and i want to trace the installation. but there is all these THINGS :-) Cant put IE11 on straight up because it takes 5 other hotfixes first.
SP1 was installed but showed up in the update anyway. and so far i have got 4 update errors, 3 of which are not even in the help.
This is a horrid thing to do to a person re-install, i would rather spend a week in guantonimo
I must be getting reall desperate, because installing windows 8 (or is it 9 now) is looking like a possible option.
 
Bleh should I go for an HD Screen + i5-4210u or normal screen+i7-4500u
 
@HackToHell on laptop? i would think it would be nice to have a 1920 type screen on a 15-17" laptop because heck they have that on the Phablet phones now.
It might be overkill to have a 4K screen because of the total machine power of the smaller platform (meaning 720 might have been better for the phones even)
But it would not be overkill to make sure that a 4K external monitor would be supported in the long run, when the price of them and the availability gets better.
if the ONLY gpu is the onboard gpu and there is no extree Nivida or Amd grafics chip, then it would be really good to insure that the on-die gpu is one of the much better ones for sure.
 
@Psycogeek The GPU is a 820m
And it's not particularly powerful
Screw the i7, I am going to buy this ;p thedostore.com/ideapad-z50-silver-59-429623.html
 
3:18 AM
@HackToHell it seems to be listed on the web as particuarly slow even :-(
tough choices, cause (as usual) 25% better is 100% more money.
must decide is laptop is sidecar to good desktop, or if laptop becomes main and more used machine.
 
@Psycogeek I don't usually play AAA games
So it's ok I suppose
 
your already on some computer? What would that be ?
 
@HackToHell do you celebrate diwali?
 
3:33 AM
@allquixotic I already did ;p
 
@HackToHell ah ok
 
Happy diwali @Sathya @jokerdino @JourneymanGeek !
And @ash iirc
 
and JMG?
 
crap ;p
 
dangit I forgot to wish coworkers happy Diwali
their holy day was just another day for me and I had no idea -_-
 
3:35 AM
lol
Yes, a celebration of fratricide (even if Krishna's uncle was a complete arsehole)
 
some of the men shaved their heads
 
Not as bad as that other guy
Ahh that's odd
shaven heads either mean you made a vow, or mourning, IIRC
Heh, that was beautiful
 
so it is Lakshmi that has hacketohell back testing his luck on lappies :-)
 
Managed to scare off a particularly tough warchief by using distract and blowing up a grog container, chased him down, killed him, and accidentally combokilled a low level captain I didn't even know.
 
@JourneymanGeek hah! I just realized that one of my coworkers who tends to shave his head around this time had been wearing a baseball cap all day :D
probably to avoid questions from the USAian customer folks: "Hi, Veh-NOO! (Venu) Why'dya decide to shave yer head?"
 
3:39 AM
@JourneymanGeek this is in skyrim?
 
Still, possibly killing Jaws after the last time was satisfying.
@Psycogeek: no, shadows of mordor.
 
@JourneymanGeek oh cool, the lesser known hero of games, is good right?
 
it's sooooo funny to hear some of my USAian coworkers and customer folks ineptly pronouncing Indian names... they aren't afraid to correct me because I'm an underling, but they won't correct the customer :D
"Usha" -> "You-sha" O_O
!!no
 
@allquixotic so now your obligated to define the correct pronunciation.
(so i know what it should be)
 
3:55 AM
@Psycogeek: current AAA game. Wierd in that the main plot is paper thin, but the sidequests make the game awesome
Basically, if a random mook kills you, he becomes a boss.
If you don't kill a boss properly, there's a chance he may re-appear uglier and meaner than ever
This one killed me as a random npc in a mass melee, I killed him twice, and ran away cause he had too many re-inforcements once.
I THINK I got him this time.
 
@JourneymanGeek i hate bosses :-) what about the creation of minions? can you do the ensnare the minds of the enemy and enlist them in your fight thing yet? or is that the basis for much of the fighting?
 
Oh, I can't do that yet
I'm mostly sneaking around, picking them off one by one.
and occationally letting loose the big mean beasties and other distractions
 
@HackToHell thanks, wish you all the same
got back few hours ago from helsinki via frankfurt
now off to mangalore on a 8-hr bus journey -.-
 
That sucks, unless the bus has charging ports ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek in this all or nothing battling, are you often going back to a save, restarting at a checkpoint, or just increased struggle to complete? Meaning when things go to heck, do you have to repeat the same stuff again.
 
4:11 AM
see ya
 
@Psycogeek: Not too often
IF you plan properly, you can often win without a direct fight
If you die, the person who killed you gets promoted, and you start at the nearest checkpoint
 
Bob
@allquixotic this has to be a joke ozbargain.com.au/node/166590
They originally wanted $50/year
 
so if they did not kill me before , they certannly will now :-) sounds like a good plan to solution the second time around , the player is much better and knows what to expect scenario.
 
Bob
> 1GB of Web Space
5GB of Web Traffic/month
 
When windows is set to automated install of updates, do they just glob in as massive piles of updates, or does it do it in order (of like time) and in pieces?
 
4:27 AM
They fed the equations into a visual render-er o_0
 
I have at times installed the updates in order first of 2012 second 2012 first 6mo of 2013 etc, because when they gloobed in many of them failed (chicken and egg problem) So I am wondering if I let the machine do it, if it would do it in order better its self?
 
4:44 AM
If anyone needs some viruses or evil programs tested, or how a "normal" system would work, now is the time. before i toss this stuff again.
i can even see the advertisements now :-)
@allquixotic like how is that latests update of the AMD GPU catalyst driver software set doing? Are you sticking with that version? no problems with it?
 
very important announcement ^
@Psycogeek I'm using the beta that came out immediately after the latest catalyst release
@Bob @_@ but the resources are so slim that it's not surprising it's that cheap :P
 
Bob
5:00 AM
@allquixotic Cheap? They wanted $49/year originally, and posted it as a "bargain", until people complained.
 
@Bob is $49/year a lot? I mean, I pay $130/month, so it's hard for me to relate to prices that low
 
Bob
@allquixotic For a webserver-only with 1 GB of storage and 5 GB/month transfer?
 
@Bob OK, but that depends on how saturated the shared resources are
 
Bob
@allquixotic The limited storage space raises serious doubts, considering the relative price of storage compared to memory and processing resources.
 
if it's guaranteed 1 GB (they make room for it so you'll never get a Disk Full error due to the disk being overprovisioned), and the webserver and CPU aren't overprovisioned, and the network utilization isn't near saturation, $49/year could be somewhat reasonable
if it's overprovisioned then that's a ripoff
it's cheaper than renting a heavy utilization micro instance from EC2 for a year
 
Bob
5:12 AM
The limited transfer is a joke. You can serve a text-only site... and that's about it.
@allquixotic You also get considerably less.
 
@Bob you watch the ACI on FedEx Flight 705? kinda scary even though nobody dies
in fact as far as I know every person involved in the incident yet lives
 
Bob
No, haven't watched. Or maybe I forgot.
 
attempted hijacking
 
Bob
Oh the guy with the hammers... decided not to watch that one
 
ahh
 
Bob
5:17 AM
The crew's injuries :(
 
it was kind of bloody and violent, but it had sort of a happy ending... I mean all the crew are alive and they have managed to recover from their injuries
2/3 of the crew have piloted airplanes in general aviation after recovering (but they can't fly commercially)
 
Bob
Didn't one get paralysed?
 
only temporarily
he went through rehab
 
Bob
Ah. Good to hear.
 
it impresses me how airplanes are able to exceed their "designed" limits by so much and not break up -- during the struggle, the first officer put the plane in a dive with the engines at takeoff speed (almost full power), and almost broke the sound barrier. in an old DC-10!
the "designed" tolerances are basically what they expect the plane to handle on a normal basis for years, but in a pinch, they can handle much, much more -- the bets are hedged heavily in favor of worst case scenarios
it landed extremely heavy with way too much fuel on board, an injured captain, coming in too fast, after having nearly broken the sound barrier, and ripples started to form on the elevators because of the stresses
and yet it landed without so much as a fire
 
5:22 AM
@allquixotic but instead they drive them like an old man in the cadilac that doesnt go over 55 and his car lasts for 40+ years
 
@Psycogeek I drive too much. I can't imagine my car lasting 40 years.
since summer 2011, my car has more than 42,000 miles on it
 
one of my 1995 work vehicles has that on it (40k) total , in 2014
looks like it just drove off the lot, minus the modifications
but in trafic it feels more like it is the only antique of that type left running
Its crasy, i have to actually park it myself
 
lol
 
the age that some of the airline jets are is amasing, if peoples cars are that old they toss em. or (like the airlines) have done constant maintainces and repairs even before needed, and drive them like glass (cept for the insane takeoffs)
 
5:58 AM
 
 
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7:03 AM
Good news everyone! Yesterday there was a wind storm and the lights in the house slowly flickered off - then on - then off again. The UPS kicked in when it happened! Knew it was a worthwhile investment.
 
How many of you have a Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX?
I'm concerned about click switch failure as I got one just a few days ago
 
7:26 AM
@HackToHell As far as I know, an end user is not required by any standard in law to check if an assembled device contains a genuine FTDI part. While I understand the counterfeiting problem, this is not an appropriate solution. The EULA won't provide any protection as the user is not presented with it at driver installation time, so users can simply claim they never agreed to it.
It's okay if the driver displayed a message stating that the device contains a counterfeit part and refused to work with the device. Permanently disabling the device at the hardware level is not okay.
End users are not responsible for what goes inside their assembled devices.
 
7:42 AM
Refusing to work is ok but bricking it is just plain evil
 
7:54 AM
Sweet, AWS support finally replied. Apparently my account was closed in 2013, so they re-enabled it for me.
Now I can play this fun game
Oh, sweet, 20 gold badges \o/
 
This is oddly hillarious
 
8:39 AM
@HackToHell aw thanks. Was it today or was it yesterday?
 
Yesterday :D
 
Haha, it was raining all day long.
 
8:51 AM
Oh and I ordered that laptop ;p
 
neat. the asus?
 
it has a 1080p screen <3
 
9:13 AM
@OliverSalzburg thats no fun. I hope you e-mail that to support , or more fun e-mail it to the investors :-)
 
@Psycogeek Already mailed their support, but at this point I'm actually no longer interested in their service anyway
 
HI
 
I just traced the install of .NET 4.5 , in the uninstaller the trace shows 500 pages of human readable changes to the system, both file items and registry entries. This being a new record, for bloody messes.
 
@OliverSalzburg licecap?
 
@Omen wait for it, i think it is still loading.
 
9:18 AM
still loading?
 
oh you cant see, hang on.
 
@JourneymanGeek Yes, I use it a lot lately
I just feel like it sometimes doesn't start recording right away. Usually the beginning is missing. But maybe that's a .gif thing
 
Your new user name Loading . . . .
 
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah such is my power
 
Worthless new installed OS that i am on.
 
9:21 AM
@OliverSalzburg: might be the preroll
 
it sometimes takes me a while to download on all of your computers
hey, hey! I got published!!!
 
PSA I have a 30% off voucher for Beyond Earth game
Does anyone want it ?
 
Has any one used office 365?
 
I used it for a month or 2 once back in '07 but not for a whole year.
Or is that how many bugs and web connections the new version has?
 
9:39 AM
@JourneymanGeek Doesn't matter how long I wait though. It helps to slightly wiggle the window around before doing what I want to record :P
@Dave We use it at work
 
9:53 AM
wierd
blah. I'm having one of those days when I end up needing to do everything.
 
10:06 AM
what is that they say about when the "machines" make thier own coding, and can create themselves, we would lose control. Well i can assure you no human is hand writing all this Shi.| going into the registry anymore. it is done by the machine (as coded).
 
Bob
There was also one I read somewhere where some guy pushed his aircraft beyond design limits (needle on dial), to avoid a crash. It might've been on that thread.
 
11:08 AM
down for everyone, or just me?
nevermind, I got connection now.
 
11:26 AM
@Kristian: Apparently the unicorns are restless
 
@JourneymanGeek That happens a lot. I'm guessing it's because they're so horny...
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek That's because we ran out of unicoins.
 
11:53 AM
Hey, got an MS Word question that probably doesn't fit any of the SE sites.
Does anyone know why Word has so many features specifically tailored for Japanese? It's very useful to me as a Japanese student, but why did Microsoft cater for Japanese as opposed to Chinese, Burmese, Arabic, Greek etc.?
 
I'm probably speaking entirely posteriourally but Japan traditionally had a pretty big PC market, and one that's been big for localisation.
China is relatively recent.
 
"posteriourally" :). Great, gotta fit that into my conversations somewhere.
Seems to make sense.
 
12:14 PM
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Q: Hack into a computer through MAC and IP address

user45016Can I hack into someone's computer if I know the MAC address of his modem and his public IP address? Is this possible? What kind of stuff would I be able to access?

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12:25 PM
@HackToHell Please nobody tell him! Imagine the chaos he could cause if he knew!
 
Someone add metric weights to this post nathanhinkle.com/blog/2014/…
pingo @JourneymanGeek (iirc you had access to the blog)
 
12:40 PM
 
That's @nhinkle's personal blog so, no ;p
and I don't have direct access to the SE log. I can post, but even I rely on others to fix my copious typos ;p
@HackToHell That answer 0_0
EPIC
 
Oliver, I guess you've gone now. Any one else used office 365? I have already read that it does create .ost files, but, I'm a little lost as to how much of the email data is stored there?
 
@JourneymanGeek truly. :D
 
I am worried that such mighty power is bestowed on the unworthy tho
 
@JourneymanGeek eh, those are just parlor hacker's tricks, really. if he really wanted to give that guy some ammo, he would've told him about triple-MMO baryon injection flux bypass sequences executed via phased-field quantum algorithmics
 
1:00 PM
@JourneymanGeek ooh i thought it was se :O
 
@allquixotic Meh, you need a power level of over 9000 to do that
 
Bob
1:22 PM
@LeoKing Could you give an example of such a feature?
I don't remember anything in MS Word specifically targeted towards Japanese.
@JourneymanGeek Erm. O_O
It's almost like SCIgen output.
 
@HackToHell oh my god. That's brilliant! Time to hack somebody... Any volunteers? Unfortunately when attempting to hack my own modem, I accidentaly overestimated the terminal velocity, so it broke :(
 
Bob
@Kristian You can fix it by applying the defenestration tool. Unfortunately, it only runs on Windows ME, so you'll have to install a copy of that first.
 
@Bob I think I might have overlazored that disk, although I was keeping it in a faraday cage for exactly this purpose.
 
Bob
> The software engineering approach to Boolean logic is defined not only by the investigation of RAID, but also by the unfortunate need for hash tables. After years of theoretical research into Boolean logic, we validate the understanding of linked lists [2]. We introduce a novel system for the deployment of the World Wide Web, which we call Glove.
 
I'm currently at work, "hacking" one of our customers Wordpress site. I am under the impression they did all of the content while blindfolded.
about ½ of the products in their webshop isn't in the right categories, and most that are have different issues to compensate.
You would think anyone could work out how Wordpress works and how to use it, but apparantly not.
 
1:34 PM
Kristian, what is a word press site. I mean, if you are a developer, why would one use it?
 
Bob
@Kristian Ha.
That was a joke, right?
Right??
 
No, that wasn't a joke. This is a joke!
@Dave That's exactly the issue here. They clearly are not developers.
 
No, I don't mean that, I mean, if you are a developer, why would you use wordpress
 
It just seems to be a website making tool for non devleopers if I'm right?
 
1:36 PM
^ . "word press"
 
@Kristian actually, what they really need is a system analyst, and a 4 year old with a hammer.
We performed a simulation on UC Berkeley's desktop machines to quantify the work of Soviet algorithmist Isaac Newton. With this change, we noted weakened performance degredation. We reduced the popularity of architecture of our mobile telephones to understand DARPA's desktop machines
THOSE COMMIES HAVE GONE TOO FAR!
 
@Psycogeek That's what they need, sadly that's not what they have.
I'd expect them to be more capable of using that :)
 
Bob
1:50 PM
@JourneymanGeek Sad thing is, that's not really indistinguishable from a legitimate paper on a topic you don't understand :P
 
2:01 PM
;p
 
@Bob - This is the sort of thing I mean.
 
Bob
Ah. I don't have Office 2013.
Don't know if 2010 has those at all.
 
@allquixotic good timing man :P
Though I realize most people here could help me
 
@SpartanDonut timing...?
 
2:16 PM
You seem to have dropped in at the same time I did and you already have a little background information on my network
 
@SpartanDonut oh, right
I mostly caught @Bob up on it too, and he tends to always know whenever I say something wrong, so if he's awake, this could be interesting
 
Well the long story short is my new router didn't fix my issue
It seemed stable for a few days and last night everything just kind of went to hell again
I'm looking for any tips, tricks, tools, etc. for troubleshooting my home network (wireless) problems. I've got a ping -t google.com and a ping -t 192.168.1.1 going basically at all time since I've started seeing the issues and what I've found is that the ping to 192.168.1.1 fails for "large" periods of time (5 seconds to over a minute / hard reboot of router)
 
@SpartanDonut I've seen problems like that on wifi before, but mostly those problems stopped around the time that 802.11n was released to stable
(for me, at least)
 
Bob
So. Your WAN connection is fine but the WLAN drops out?
Hm. have you taken a look at the networks in the area? See if you're on an overcrowded channel?
 
I honestly cannot be certain on that one
 
2:18 PM
I think since you're having wifi problems, and that could be such a broad range of potential issues, eliminating the possibility that it's not wifi-related could be useful -- plug in an ethernet cable and see if it's stable
 
Bob
(there's phone apps to do that, and programs for PCs too)
 
My wireless networks (2.4ghz and 5ghz bands, and the Roku) are the only networks in range
 
Bob
@SpartanDonut Do you have issues on both bands?
 
@Bob I've not confirmed 100% but before my new router I only used a 2.4 band and I'm now using the 5ghz band and the problem is the same on both
 
Bob
Also, a hidden-ESSID network might be spewing interference... best to take a look with something like inSSIDer (use an older version, the most recent isn't free)
 
2:20 PM
But I've not tried both bands on the same router
 
Bob
I've actually had similar issues before, which disappeared after I replaced the card in my laptop. But there's any number of possible causes, with different solutions.
 
Speaking of interference... I'm a networking noob so be nice, can a cordless phone cause interference when not in use?
 
Bob
@SpartanDonut Hm. Do you know what band it communicates in?
 
Off hand I don't
 
Bob
And do you only have a single phone on the base station, or is it one of those multi-phone packs?
 
2:21 PM
Multi phone packs
 
> when not in use
unlikely. when in use, it probably uses 5 GHz unlicensed band
anyway, plugging an ethernet cable into the router and disabling your wifi temporarily on your PC would give you an indication of whether it's purely a wifi problem or if the router itself is getting clogged
 
Bob
@allquixotic Depends. DECT phones are usually 1.9 GHz.
 
see, this is why RA needs you, @Bob
 
Bob
And when not in use, the satellite phones still keep in contact with the base station.
 
So yeah the one thing I know I want to try is that the modem, router, wireless printer, and one of hte phones all sit together on this tiny end table (phone, modem, and router because of the phone jack.... damn dsl) and I want to see if I can spread it out across the room more
And then the other thought I had was if maybe the silly backwards bridge setup I've got going on is giving the router grief
 
2:24 PM
what model is the new router?
 
Bob
...backwards bridge?
 
@Bob he set up the PPPoE on the router rather than the modem
 
Bob
@allquixotic take it with a gran of salt, apparently NA is different and DECT is rare there and uses different freqs from the rest of the world
 
asus rt-ac68u
 
Bob
you probably know better than me what cordless phones use over there :P
 
2:25 PM
the modem is capable of being a L3 gateway/router, but instead, he's got the L3 NAT on the router, and the modem is just a modem, nothing more
 
Bob
@allquixotic fairly standard
 
@Bob O.o
no...?
 
Bob
I've been considering a similar setup myself, but I recently got a newer modem/router that's more powerful
@allquixotic ?
 
usually you let the modem be the NAT gateway and you bridge a router configured as a "dumb switch" to the modem
 
Bob
...well, I don't know about cable, but with ADSL it's far from unheard of to use PPP passthrough on the modem
 
2:27 PM
So I'm not crazy? Alright.
 
I'm just not sure why someone would choose to do that, unless their modem had some kind of throughput problem and couldn't keep up with everything.
 
That's semi exciting
 
Bob
@allquixotic that's more common, yes, but there's a reason the bridge mode exists :P
@allquixotic exactly that
 
what's the difference, really? it all comes down to what's doing the PPP proto stuff, right?
 
Bob
my previous modem/router could only maintain, I think it was 4k NAT connections?
 
2:27 PM
ahh
well if his router is the NAT, and he's getting packet loss pinging the LAN, the modem shouldn't be in the picture at all, right?
 
Bob
current one is up to 32k so I've shelved plans to bridge it :P
 
so we can conclude that the WAN and the modem are irrelevant, right?
 
Bob
@allquixotic true
as you said earlier, determine if it's just the WLAN or the entire router that's hanging
 
so the problem must either be his computer(s) having bad wifi adapters and/or drivers and/or configuration, or PHY wifi issues (congestion, polarization, whatever), or the router's wifi is buggy (the third one is less likely since the same problem manifests with two separate routers from two separate brands)
 
Bob
@allquixotic the third one is still a possibility if there's something on the network or in the area that's absolutely flooding requests
oh, IGMP multicast (and other broadcast) is very bad for wifi
@SpartanDonut Do you watch IPTV by any chance?
 
2:31 PM
what is the lowest common denominator wifi protocol used by your collective devices, @SpartanDonut ? that is, take ALL the active (currently in-use) WiFi clients in your house, as well as your router, and look at the newest supported protocol for each, then take the newest one that's supported by all of them, and tell us that
for an example of what answer I want, my guess would be it's either 802.11g or 802.11n, although it's not impossible that you might answer 802.11ac
 
I would guess g
Not sure
I might have to come back later with that answer
 
Bob
hm, I never did figure out if having a 802.11g device on the network causes fallback for all others, or if that's just a rumor
@SpartanDonut well, if you could list all devices, we can probably figure it out from there :P
 
@Bob I think the newer protocols have better stuff for cooperating well with other clients on the same network or sharing the same band. that's especially true for ac, but even n improved that significantly over g
 
Bob
@allquixotic There's a rather persistent rumor that having a single 802.11g device causes 802.11n devices to operate in some reduced mode.
 
Lol... what year did N start becoming a standard on pretty much everything?
 
2:33 PM
if everybody's using 802.11ac, you can literally have multiple separate infrastructure BSSIDs broadcasting on the exact same frequency band and they'll barely notice any increase in latency or packet loss due to it
 
Bob
But I normally see those claims from... disreputable sources.
@SpartanDonut The final standard is fairly recent... four or five years ago? Draft was out a while longer.
 
so ac, at least has gone a long way towards dealing with saturation
 
Bob
Mostly compatible but some draft devices do funny things.
 
OH. speaking of "draft N"
I had a 2008-2009 era USB Linksys adapter that advertised "Draft N 2.0" spec conformity, but it wreaked havoc on my entire WLAN setup when my phone/tablet/etc were speaking "final N"
 
I think I've got an HP Envy from 2010... we have another laptop but I'm not sure how old it is... I would expect in the last 4 years
 
2:34 PM
I had to purchase a current-gen WLAN adapter for my desktop to fix it.
 
Bob
@SpartanDonut I'd bet that one's using a Ralink chipset :P
Do you have access to it right now?
 
Negative
 
Ralink Draft N devices are pretty busted, in my honest opinion -- they behave about as badly as mid-2000s 802.11g devices ("I'm in the same room as this router but I can only get 4 KB/s!")
 
Bob
2010 was after final 802.11n came out, but it might contain an older chipset
@SpartanDonut Is it the device you're testing with?
Speaking of - do all devices exhibit the same issue?
 
Ooh, here's another test you can try that doesn't involve plugging in any ethernet cables
turn off ALL of your wifi devices (disable the wifi adapter or shut down the device entirely), then turn on one at a time and try the stability/performance/packet loss tests
if they all work fine individually, then there's an interoperability problem
 
Bob
2:37 PM
> What's more, RT-AC68U uses TurboQAMâ„¢ technology to upgrade 2.4G Wi-Fi even further to give you unprecedented speeds. At 2.4 GHz, it's 33% faster than generic wireless-N900 routers, reaching 600 Mbps
wat.
 
if one of them sucks even when individually and the rest are fine, then you need to replace the wifi chipset in one of the devices (or get a new device entirely)
 
I'm the active complainer... the wife complains of slow downs but not disconnects (she's not doing the online gaming I do). and the mother in law claims her TV is fine (roku)
 
Bob
I'm rather wary of these claims. The crap they use can often do more harm than good in all but the most ideal conditions.
 
I've got a desktop with a netgear ac6200 adapter
 
@Bob yeah, seems kind of dangerous to start messing with the standards like that
 
2:39 PM
The wife has recently (in the last couple weeks) stopped using the HP Envy laptop and is using a new desktop with Wifi built into the mobo
 
Bob
@allquixotic Rely on one little implementation detail and boom, connection issues
@SpartanDonut That definitely should be modern enough. And Broadcom chipset too, those are usually rock solid.
 
I've not noticed issues during the day on days I'm working remote - active RDP sessions, VPN, etc.
 
Bob
@SpartanDonut Waiiiiiiit. Go back to that. When did these issues start?
 
It's pretty much exclusive to gaming
 
Bob
Which games? Not that it really matters, I'm just curious :P
 
2:43 PM
@Bob Early september - I really started noticing it when I would be done playing Destiny and hop on the computer for LoL
 
gaming could be trying NAT-T or UDP or some weird QoS or TCP_NODELAY or something which is tripping up the router
 
Destiny would have some lag and LoL was unplayable
Rebooted the router and it was fine
Last night rebooting the router seemed to not help much though it's the exact same symptoms
Just a different router now
There was one other coincidental thing (other than playing destiny) that happened around the same time but I can't remember what that is off hand... I know I had thought of it before though
 
Bob
If rebooting the AP didn't help, then it's likely not the cause.
But a side-effect would be causing everything to reconnect.
@SpartanDonut So before your wife switched to the desktop?
 
Yes... literally 2 weeks ago
I was most definitely having issues before the desktop arrived
 
@SpartanDonut have you tried gaming with all the other wifi devices on the network shut down or disabled?
it's gonna have to be a process of elimination approach, I'm afraid
it's a long and drawn-out process but it's the most reliable way to isolate the problem
 
2:52 PM
Fair enough - that's at least what I was looking for, the advice I mean
At the very least you've given me some things to look into such as monitoring which devices are connected to the network when problems are the worst, a hint at what type of devices I should be suspectful of, etc.
 
old devices that don't support the latest protocols (at least the final revision of 802.11n) are a good starting point
in my experience, wifi started sucking a lot less (and becoming much more reliable, even in adverse conditions) as of the release of the final 802.11n devices
before then it was truly rant-worthy just how bad it was
 
Yeah I'll be investigating the laptops and any old cell phones we still have around first
Once again I appreciate the advice guys. I'll check back as I find out more. Thanks a bunch
 
3:24 PM
@HackToHell I'll remember to do that for next year's :)
 
3:43 PM
@nhinkle :)
 
4:17 PM
Has anyone else had excessive brute-force attempts from the 122.225.X.X range? particularly 122.225.109 and 122.225.97
 
4:42 PM
@ekaj no, but I don't listen on port 22
apparently the attackers aren't very good at port scanning
 
Whee. My package arrived.
 
Bob
I do! On one server. because I don't care. Because brute-forcing a private key is effectively impossible.
 
My rPi now has an on-off power button.
 
Bob
o.O
 
Bob
4:43 PM
Is that a Xiaomi battery? :P
 
Yup.
With with USB parts, no name on the cable, logo inside the USB port, and a sticker which might have 20 digits verification code but which tore to pieces when I tried to remove it
Oh, and a Chinese manual.
 
Bob
@Hennes You're not supposed to remove it. Scrape lightly with a coin.
 
I tried peeling it off to see the digits below it.
It came off in many small parts
 
Bob
@Hennes It's a scratch thing, not a sticker.
 
I realised that after I had half a dozen small pieces.
 
Bob
4:46 PM
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Next steps: pass though charging and checking how to use the touchscreen.
 
Bob
You can still open it up and check inside. Pretty easy to open.
 
And then I need a case for my home build laptop (tm)
 
Bob
Little flat screwdriver will pry off the white cover on the port side. Pry from inside/next to the USB port. It's stuck down with a bit of gum.
 
That looked easy on youtube.
 
Bob
4:47 PM
Use a little phillips screwdriver to remove the screws
slide the thing out
then you can check the batteries
if you want to check the controller chip, you have a couple more screws and a plastic clip. be careful with the clip.
 
I might. But first dinner.
 
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