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12:10 AM
Downloadinating windows 10 ;p
 
 
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1:41 AM
This is new
Also review audit. HALF THE QUESTIONS I REVIEWED WERE AUDITS. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO CULL THE CLOSE QUEUE!!! :/
You should be backing up before failure occurs. Waiting for a device to die, then backing up is too late. Don't forget, that is only one failure mode. You may have controller failure, or random ferret attacks making your SSD unusable as well — Journeyman Geek ♦ 54 secs ago
 
 
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2:58 AM
> At that point you can drop the semicolons: C's while is spelled for in Go.
#k
 
3:17 AM
whut?
 
Ash
3:52 AM
hey :)
@HackToHell @JourneymanGeek @jokerdino @Sathya happy navratri pooja.
 
XD
Didn't it start a few days ago?
 
@Ash Today is that ?
Thanks :D
 
Ash
@JourneymanGeek yup
 
Today is saraswathi pooja (so, I popped a few forensics books, rather than what I most recently studied. In a few years though, I wonder if people will just stick a tablet there ;p)
 
Ash
@HackToHell haven't you kept your books for pooja yet ?
 
3:59 AM
@Ash uhm no
We aren't particularly religious ;p
 
Ash
@JourneymanGeek I wonder the same
 
eh.
I am loving windows 10
 
Ash
10 ?
 
10
(they decided to skip 9)
They seem to be waging war on transparency
but it feels like one OS, not two OSes badly mixed together.
 
4:13 AM
uuuugh... where am I going to get a C2T cable from? :<
 
@MichaelFrank fleabay?
 
> Error listening: dial tcp xxxxx An operation on a socket could not
be performed because the system lacked sufficient buffer space or because a que
e was full.
#k
 
check the number and try again :-)
 
wow, go has so many concurrent threads running that it hits the system max
 
4:29 AM
I a have a Question for SU , that may have never been asked. "what uses the -12v and -5v comming out of the PSU on the modern computer"
Or tougher question, who the hecks hardware monitor reads the thing correct any-freaking-more.
 
@Psycogeek: I'd need to check but IIRC the negative voltages MAY have been removed from the ATX spec
ahh no
 
oh. well you know i have had that teeny tiny ram corruption problem (that f--s up everything) I got a new board, let it test for 2 days (with cheap chip) and all was fine. Assembled it in my present computer, everything was fine. installed all my stufff, and Well Gol Damn it , it is back.
So the regular hardware monitor that came with the board, says the voltages are ok (the ones it shows). but none of the monitors show a proper -12 and -5
but they have not done that for years now anyways.
It really sucks cause i have proved it is not the memory (or did i)
I have replaced the board, although every board made seems to be pressed out by the same factory in china
What is left is the memory, the CPU (which is where the ram controller is) the ram, the video card, and the PSU. Well the f everything i have not yet replaced.
 
4:45 AM
@JourneymanGeek Yea... or a local variant.
 
everything had gone along fine for about 1 year, the error(s) are so freaking tiny i could sell it and nobody would even know, but because all storage routes through it , it is endless problem doing things like who backups of TBs
 
I shot off to the local tech store to grab a null modem cable as that would work as well... but they were just closing when I got there and didn't want to let me in.
 
Holy shit I am hearing high frequency screeching sounds from my CPU when I hit upon the TCP limit
WTF is this ??!!!
 
really really high like coil whine which can be so high is sounds more like hiss, or high like pc speaker beep? or high like fan needing lubrications
 
naw when the program generates exceptions it's a high frequency beep beep beep
And when it doesn't have exceptions I don't hear it !
cc @all @bob and @JourneymanGeek !
 
4:50 AM
sounds most like pc speaker beep
 
@Psycogeek You could try it
@Psycogeek naaah
I have it disconnected
The code ;p
 
what OS?
 
Windows 8 x64
Request spammer :P pastebin.com/Y0Uhn0yg
Please do try this weird shit out
 
what even is it, some kind of local null net assault loop?
 
5:05 AM
@Psycogeek uhm yeah
 
5:18 AM
@Bob ^^ Alison Sudol from A Fine Frenzy was on the Amazon Prime show Transparent and did a nice cover.
 
Without any tables Postgresql runs at 5 mb
MySql would run at 100+ mb
@allquixotic do you have any idea what those high frequency squeals from my CPU are?
 
6:03 AM
 
@HackToHell: o0
 
6:23 AM
@Ash lol thanks for that. No one in my family gives a flip about it today.
 
@jokerdino No celeb in South?
 
eheheh
Its a big deal here ;p
 
@Mr.Alien I don't know. Might be just my family.
My dad's out of station. Sibling's working and mom want a break. :p
 
Well, mostly Gujarati people plays that (am Gujarati), but never ever celeb except for doing aarti
@JourneymanGeek haha seriously?
 
6:28 AM
;p
My family's pretty religious
 
Yesterday rain spoilt the play for people here..
@JourneymanGeek Indians get more religious when they are out of India haha
 
6:43 AM
heyo
@Mr.Alien xD well.......... most of the times ;p
 
hm, 32 bit windows 10 installs on KVM
 
@JourneymanGeek is cortana in there?
 
not as far as I noticed
 
anything interesting?
 
Its windows 8, polished
 
6:47 AM
xD if you could, pls ping with some screenies if you find something share worthy
 
New virtual desktops are shiny
VERY flat design language, no more transparency option for taskbar it seems
 
Every version of the Windows will suck after 7
 
lol
Thats what folk said with xp
 
Every version of the Windows sucked before 7 too.
 
@JourneymanGeek I was reluctant to go for 7 as well but later, I was happy to use it, am having a licensed copy of 8 but am still using 7, cuz as a dev, 8 is like pia
 
6:53 AM
 
@JourneymanGeek +1 for openoffice xD
 
that virtual desktop thing makes /me want to try it out ;p
 
at some point I'm going to see if I can boot it off a VHD
 
that start menu doesn't look nice at all!
@JourneymanGeek have you overlaid any theme to it?
 
7:01 AM
@AwalGarg -1
 
@AbhishekHingnikar stay in a single room ;p
 
stock, though, its pulled in the dark theme I use, and the wallpaper from windows 8
It also seems to be syncing some preferences
 
any way to disable those annoying tiles on the right of the start menu?
 
@AwalGarg: You can unpin all of them
 
7:05 AM
ahh nice
 
which compacts it down to just the 'old' startbar
 
nice then
I think I would be trying it out soon (mainly because of the virtual desktop thing)
 
Anything noticably new @JourneymanGeek ?
 
Not really
 
7:11 AM
@AbhishekHingnikar: Actually, thats sort of a good thing
 
@JourneymanGeek this is ... better, no doubt.
 
they've stolen reimplimented the windowed metro modernui universal apps approach from stardock
They've brought back the startmenu, and everything seems coherent
 
@JourneymanGeek what does that search button (the one next to the start button) do?
 
@JourneymanGeek click the search button
 
Its a wierd little thing, some kinda universal search
 
7:13 AM
am feeling that by releasing w8, they forgot about the serious users and went funky when os is first meant for work instead of enjoying, you cant have a common platform for mobiles, tables and computers
 
I think that will be cortana
 
28 mins ago, by Awal Garg
@JourneymanGeek is cortana in there?
28 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek
not as far as I noticed
:/
 
@AwalGarg: this is proto cortana ;p
 
xD
 
typing in cookies brought up the IE options page
typing in cortana brought me to bing searh
oh, and the default wallpaper is nice
 
7:14 AM
SCREEEEN SHHOOOTTSS!!!!
(we are troubling JMG because he decided to try w10 lol)
@JourneymanGeek did you try any funny questions? I am wondering if it behaves as the real personal assistant or just a stripped down search thing.
 
no, its a search thing
 
no fun
 
Its pretty hard to screenshot
youtubing a video
 
oh nice (don't take much trouble though ;p)
 
haaa, completed upgrading one of my chrome plugins, need a test run now
 
7:19 AM
I have no idea when they added video capture to virtualbox
 
subtle thing to notice: they repositioned the shutdown menu to the top. not sure how much that counts.
 
Oh, and at least 32 bit Windows 10 runs on KVM as well
 
@JourneymanGeek nice
 
going to see if 64 bit boots
 
really proto of proto but still ok
 
7:23 AM
but I'll likely stick to 32, I only have 4gb of ram on the box with KVM
 
x86 will always have better performance, they say, so I guess that must be right.
(in a vm)
 
lol
depends
Phoebe is a low intensity VM box ;p
I mainly use it for testing stuff, then nuking the VMs
 
hahaha nice
> nuking the VMs
xD
 
Lets say I want a VM to keep and actually run
That's on my main box
I need to work out how to bridge, but I'd run VMs I want on 24/7 or OSes I want to test KVMs on the little celeron box
 
somone should run out and snag the WindowsX-Files domains :-) Windows X-Men (man) and Windows XXX (yea for porn)
with so many people running off to linux the EX-windows , and windows-EX might be valuable too
spanish site MeX and MSeX
Well i replaced the cip with the cheap "test" chip, and the memory is still buggered, one more down. Thinking about replacing the PSU , eventually i will replace the memory :-) after all it is a memory problem (although the memory all tests out)
 
7:40 AM
oh, wow.
Nearly maxed out memory, and I'm using a ton of swap on the celeron box
 
how much memory did you alot?
 
2gb
its a 4gb system
32 bit seemed better behaved
(this is on a passively cooled bay trail celeron so, I'm not expecting too much ;p)
 
sure dont want to put the New Modern system , on anything new or modern :-)
lets see it on something normal, not Taking EVERYTHING for its bloody usless self.
 
lol
I'm essentially running this on close to minimum requirements. Processor usage does seem a little high during initial install
(and now I know it runs!)
 
they will explain that it takes Time to tune itself, which does not explain everyone re-installing to make it "faster" again :-)
 
7:49 AM
Downloading Tech Preview right now. :D
Also, are most serial ports smart enough to run null modem over a regular serial cable?
 
Also, damn. Maybe I'll try and find a C2T cable at work tomorrow...
Although configuring this server through serial should be just as fun
 
8:16 AM
oh wow... I just googled nzbdrone and found someones completely open to the internet installation. o.O
 
9:03 AM
 
9:14 AM
Hi guys, would this be the place to ask about querying active directory using LDAP?
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank this will just get more fun with ipv6
 
0-0
I have no idea actually
is this for personal use, or at work?
 
@JourneymanGeek Is that directed at me?
 
For work.
I can't stop watching that gif.
 
9:16 AM
serverfault may be better
 
Alright, thanks :)
 
do note that sf has pretty strict quality standards, and poking around a bit is a good idea first
 
Yeah, I just have a quick question as I've specified a veeery specific OU in the query, but it appears to be ignoring that and pulling machines and users alike from every OU which is a bit annoying.
 
ahh, make sure you give all the details you can, and you've been forwarned so... ;p
 
9:18 AM
The room has a fairly big warning against asking questions tbh.
Might just forgo it for less hassle.
 
It's free for international students too
Germany rocks :P cc @OliverSalzburg
 
@Psycogeek Thanks :)
 
9:42 AM
@HackToHell Yeah, great move. And just a couple of years after they established them :P
 
superuser.com/a/819748/98855 <--- reading this answer , half way through I am thinking WTF does that have to do with it :-) Then i see it is a bit spammy.
GONE!
 
10:10 AM
SE Chat Dark Theme now with more border-radius :)
 
@Bob How so?
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank every host will have a public address
 
@Bob Sounds fun!
 
hrmm... how long should the Tech Preview take when "Getting ready"?
 
takes a while
 
It just restarted... and is now spinning again.
 
Man, wtf is wrong with people. There is a cat sitting near the parking spaces downstairs, an old woman parks her car there and honks at the cat
 
10:42 AM
And that bitch isn't even allowed to park there. Those are private parking spaces for companies in the building!
 
Snitch on the bitch!
 
I'll burn her car!
Honk at my cat, will ya?
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Well, I think they messed up when they decided to change the position of the x button.
But WinX looks decent so far.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank Screenshot?
 
11:22 AM
looks the same to me
 
Bob
12:02 PM
Animator vs Animation 4 is out! :D
 
Wow, Flash
 
 
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1:03 PM
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1:19 PM
@JourneymanGeek are you Microsoft Excel's fill handle?
 
Bob
1:33 PM
ok, I think I'll give Win10 a shot
...on a 1366x768 screen
-_-
 
Back from the brink cc @Bob @JourneymanGeek :D
 
Bob
1:46 PM
@allquixotic :)
@allquixotic now you have until their next attempt!
Oh yea, how did the optimisation go?
> IF YOU LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES, SECTION 13 CONTAINS A BINDING ARBITRATION CLAUSE AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER. IT AFFECTS YOUR RIGHTS ABOUT HOW TO RESOLVE ANY DISPUTE WITH MICROSOFT. PLEASE READ IT.
 
@Bob I nicked a DoublyLinkedList implementation from a gem I found (and read the source; it wasn't implemented using an array), and it cut down the runtime by about 5 minutes, but that's it
the change proved functionally correct but not immensely faster
 
Bob
Hm.
@allquixotic Have you tried avoiding Tarjan's?
 
I halved the impact of Kernel#clone by observing that the children array was being shallow copied (cloned) TWICE for each step of the loop in each
but that only cut down the time by a couple of seconds
 
Bob
> Download and install the preview only if you ... Know what an ISO file is and how to use it.
lol
 
at this point I'm probably just going to bite the bullet and accept the 25-minute runtime... this program doesn't need to be run frequently enough for it to matter
currently the plan is to run it every week at 5 PM on a Friday (everyone should be gone by then, since everyone leaves early on Friday)
and when I run it on a smaller dataset (which is going to be necessary a bit more often than weekly), the runtime is about 2-3 minutes
there seems to be some nonlinear factor involved in running Tarjan's iteratively after each add to the tree, it's probably quadratic
 
Bob
1:55 PM
Hm. 8 GB MicroSD (Samsung EVO) cards for $5 ea... not bad.
 
which means the calculations needed to do it on a small dataset are way less than on a huge dataset
@Bob 8 GB MicroSD? who would use such a thing? that's so small nowadays
when I bought a phone like, 3 generations ago, Motorola provided a free 32 GB MicroSD card in the phone (removable)
!! s/free/included aka complimentary but not free/
 
Bob
@allquixotic Any way you can limit the search space for cycles?
 
@allquixotic when I bought a phone like, 3 generations ago, Motorola provided a included aka complimentary but not free 32 GB MicroSD card in the phone (removable) (source)
 
Bob
Maybe check only the possible paths from the newly added node?
If that doesn't contain a cycle, then the add did not introduce a cycle/
 
@Bob now that you mention it, there is; but it would be too labor-intensive and brittle to make that relationship in the code, so I'd have to come up with a way to iteratively run the program on a bunch of small datasets
 
Bob
1:57 PM
You'd avoid re-searching the entire graph every time you add a node.
 
the way the data works is, there are several hundred test cases that are "Common", which are called by (aka linked to in the digraph) thousands upon thousands of other test cases... but the non-Common test cases rarely, if ever, link to one another
 
Bob
@allquixotic I would.
Backups.
I've started creating app backups onto MicroSD.
 
what I could do is run the tool on little bits and pieces of the non-Common scripts (concatenated with the Common scripts, of course), producing a digraph with around 600 test cases at a time, instead of a digraph with 7000+ test cases at a time
if it's O(quadratic or cubic or exponential or something distinctly non-linear), running it 25 times on digraphs with <1000 nodes will be way faster than running it once on a digraph with 7000+ nodes
in fact most of the digraphs in that case would be <600 nodes
 
Bob
@allquixotic Also, multiple threads? :P
 
if it's quadratic, adding node 6999, doing Tarjan's, then adding node 7000 and doing Tarjan's again would probably be as much computation as running Tarjan's 600 times to build up the first 600 nodes
@Bob splitting it up would allow me to use multiple threads, yes. currently I don't think it's possible to break up my existing algorithm with multiple threads.
actually, the quadratic behavior comes from the fact that I'm iteratively running the linear-time Tarjan's algorithm... duh; why didn't I think of that?!
 
2:07 PM
@Bob I gave it a shot on a vm on a 1280x800 screen ;p
 
the runtime would be something like little-o(Summation from 1 to N(|V| + |E|)) which would be an arithmetic series: (N/2) * ((|V1| + |E1|) + (|VN| + |EN|)), where |V| is the number of nodes, |E| is the number of edges (which in my graph is always equal to |V|-1), and |VN| is the number of vertices when adding node N
 
@Bob IE, if this ducks up your computer, don't sue us.
 
so, simplifying: (N/2) * ((|V1| + |V0|) + (|VN| + |V(N-1)|)) = (N/2) * (1 + (|VN| + |V(N-1)|))
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I found it more interesting that they actually specify the US.
o.O
 
if N is 7000, that's 3500 * (1 + 7000 + 6999) or 49,000,000
 
Bob
2:11 PM
Language editions: English, English (UK), Chinese... Portuguese (Brazil)??
Is Portuguese really that big?
 
if N is 600, that's 300 * (1 + 600 + 599) = 360,000
 
@Bob: few reasons, firstly, they probably 1. Know they can do that in the US 2. Are more likely to be sued in the US than elsewhere. 3. May get in trouble if they did it elsewhere, which is precisely what they want to avoid
 
600 is 8.5% of 7000, but 360,000 is only 0.73% of 49,000,000
therefore the algorithm is distinctly polynomial. QED
that's my problem
 
@allquixotic whoot
Which reminds me, I need to check on my linux livecd torrents
I'm still getting used to accidentally uploading something like 100x what I download.
 
lol
last night I was so frustrated at how slow Ubuntu's mirrors are -- ALL of them -- heavily bandwidth throttled, it was ridiculous
I could stream 1080p video without a hitch, but was getting like 150 KB/s down from any Ubuntu mirror
they need a torrent-based apt backend
 
2:21 PM
Run your own APT mirror
…with black jack and hookers
In fact, forget about the APT mirror
 
lol
 
@allquixotic: actually....
 
@JourneymanGeek no, not really
 
@allquixotic: Well, partially really, literally.
@allquixotic: I've been pissed off enough at the local ubuntu mirror I considered running a local mirror ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Hmmmmmmm I wonder what the names are :P
 
2:25 PM
@Bob: meh, were this IRC I wouldn't bother censoring it ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek YOR WRONG
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Now I wonder what IRC channels you frequent :P
 
sorry, I just had to use a Yor picture from GalCiv II with "YOR WRONG"
 
@Bob: mostly small ones ;p
@Bob ^^^ ;p
I had another person ask me about licecap ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek lol.
I was joking :P
 
2:32 PM
;p
 
Bob
They're obviously Linux torrents.
 
As you can see
 
Bob
Yep.
 
(actually, I have fedora kde and fedora lxde seeding)
hm, only fedora lxde, at 14
 
@JourneymanGeek so you are sharing a 31 MB distro? what's that? Puppy Linux?
also, you're a dirty evil pirate!
 
2:34 PM
;p
Puppy linux seems worth sharing!
Though, this is a great 35 mb distro ;p
@allquixotic: funny thing is I end up buying a lot of stuff I pirate
in one case... twice.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Ah, so you buy a lot of the stuff you trial, right?
 
@Bob: actually Yeah
If its DRM free, and reasonably accessible in decent format options... oh hell yes.
I don't pirate games for example, since I get them from steam, and I tend to pick up baen bundles if there's any books in em I want.
 
Bob
3:14 PM
>
In the dawn of time, the original Windows console was created. For millenia, geeks and developers (typically both) steeled their nerves and leveraged the console’s utility. After a (very) short time, a great lacking was noticed. And so, legions of ever intrepid command line mavens migrated to other platforms and other consoles, ‘til but a stalwart few remained. Now, today, with a small rumbling, the ancient, weary console heaves a great sigh and rises. The journey to legitimacy has begun. WE’RE BACK!
lol
 
Bob
It feels a bit weird with window borders essentially gone.
 
Bob
3:32 PM
Boooo
 
Bob
and the apps work fine once you open them!
 
3:49 PM
posted on October 02, 2014

We’re having the same problems a lot of other CloudFlare CDN customers are seeing.  Watch https://twitter.com/StackStatus for updates.

 
I have a key for Tropico 3, anyone wants it?
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy Would it be that free one from HB? :P
 
Exactly. It has to be redeemed before Oct. 6th
 
4:05 PM
well if everyone here already has it, I guess there's no use offering it on the Bridge :P
 
posted on October 02, 2014

We are back up.  The CDN issues are over.

 
 
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5:39 PM
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Q: /usr/bin/vim vs. /bin/vim

That Brazilian GuyI get that binaries can be in different places. What I don't understand is why when I run whereis, which and type it says vim is at /usr/bin/vim, but when I try to run it using sudo it says I can't run /bin/vim. [user@host conf.d]$ sudo vim test.conf [sudo] password for user: Sorry, user user i...

 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy You can't run sudo on it because you don't have permission to.
Simple as that.
It's possible to define a whitelist of allowed executables for sudo.
 
I have sudo permission for /usr/bin/vim.
But Linux is ignoring /usr/bin/vim and preferring /bin/vim (which I have no permission to sudo). Despite which AND whereis AND type saying vim resides at /usr/bin/vim!
 
peers at /bin/vim.
I like vim, but since when it it an essential part of an operating system.
Why would you need it to be able to boot?
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy Because sudo runs as the root user, and probably has a different PATH
sudo -i
echo $PATH
# repeat your which and type tests here
assuming it allows you to enter interactive mode
otherwise, sudo env
 
the only thing I can perform is sudo vim, and specifically at /etc/httpd/conf.d I have the slight suspicion the sysadmin doesn't trust me.
 
Bob
5:46 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy eh, my bet would be on a different path
bob@phoebe:~$ sudo env | grep PATH
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
bob@phoebe:~$ env | grep PATH
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/home/bob/ffmpeg/bin
in my case, the sudo path prefers /usr/bin over /bin
won't be true for all systems
heck, mine doesn't even have a /bin/vim
@ThatBrazilianGuy then tell your admin that it's broken and let them fix it
 
Already did. Just trying to understand what happened. The PATH hipothesys makes sense
I just watched a youtube video from @JourneymanGeek and now half of the suggestionjs are dogs and the other half are computers. O_o
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Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy Eh, sudo /usr/bin/vim then :echo $PATH
 
"not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/vim"
I'm starting to think the sysadmin is pulling a prank on me.
 
6:01 PM
anybody tried gnome 3.14?
 
Bob
mmmmm gnome pie
 
I wanna install but I have a stable (and only) system... which I don't wanna disturb.
and I am not sure I would download the 1gb fedora based live system since I am pretty limited at bandwidth.
 
 
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8:52 PM
An obvious buffer overflow vulnerability was present in the original HINT codebase.
It's been fixed in my HI64 fork
@JourneymanGeek Heard of a benchmark called HINT?
I've decided to fork it into a new project called HI64 which fixes bugs in the original program and aims to make it better overall
 
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