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12:00 AM
which inevitably...
@allquixotic: It all boils down to numbers ._.
 
@allquixotic Depends on how full the jails are... :D
 
they don't care how full they are. they're building more of them all the time! and cramming more people into existing ones
 
But well, it's not always about jail, sometimes it's just to get some money from the other person to pay the damage.
 
i think, the ultimate goal of the us govt is to imprison >75% of the population
make ridiculous laws so you can't practically exist without serving jail time, then convict everybody except the upper elite and exert total control over the lower classes
 
@allquixotic That'll help them find Anonymous. xD
 
12:03 AM
it'll also give them a free labor workforce of about 150 million people
 
@allquixotic: also that prosecutors and cops are judged by their 'success rate'
Paper published a certain local law enforcement agency has a 90% conviction rate.
What they didn't say is who they can't actually charge, the 'warn' (which counts as a success) and they occationally sit on cases for years
 
also just because they got a conviction doesn't mean the person is really guilty; I bet much more than 10% of the people they haul in are innocent
 
precisely
And seriously, having a case hang over your head for years is horrible
 
 
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1:12 AM
A typical day on SO...
 
1:35 AM
(FWIW, he's got 8 upvotes now and an answer that's as long as the two answer on the screenshot.)
 
1:54 AM
facepalm
I was remoted into my desktop. closed a window on that desktop rather than the remote access tool
 
 
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4:13 AM
So I started up a temp monitor on my home PC to troubleshoot this random shut off problem. I boot up Ubuntu in VBox and browse "Dolphins and Kittens" in Google image search like mad just to see what the stress does. After +200 degrees Fahrenheit (+93 Celsius) I didn't even want to know when the machine would actually shut down... Looks like I need an aftermarket cooler. >_>
 
anybody know if it's possible to check the memory type without removing from the pc?
 
4:30 AM
@KronoS cpuz
 
@Sathya I just found out that speccy does
 
well that too
cpuz's lighter
I think
 
you're probably right
 
5:00 AM
@KronoS: I seem to think wmic should as well
 
5:56 AM
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Q: Question and suggestion on Votes and Rep

Carl BI am curious about voting or maybe the lack there of. I am an enthusiast, no expert, but I love computers and love seeing the problems and solutions in the Stack Exchange. I learn something new everyday I come here. But when I look at some of the questions and there are 39 views, 44 views, 21 vie...

 
HI..all
;)
 
'ello
 
hmm, trying a manjaro linux install on a VM
 
What in hell is a manjaro linux?
 
Its a archlinux varient, livecd, has an installer
 
6:10 AM
Does it work?
 
not sure yet
hence the whole trying thing
I've never understood the aversion to a basic installer that a lot of source based distros have
 
6:26 AM
120mb ram use on a base install, seems pretty fast on a VM.
 
Bob
7:10 AM
@JourneymanGeek Which DE does it use (if any)?
 
currently using the xfce build
there's also a KDE and a gnome3 spin
they may also support cinnamon
The only showstopper for me is lack of unetbootin support
 
Bob
7:28 AM
lol
what does unetbootin use? syslinux?
@JourneymanGeek My new openSUSE installation is using several times that :\
May have to try xfce
 
@Bob: casper
 
SSDs are yet to be perfect...
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ...how does that even work? :P
 
@Bob: basically, something to do with squashfs and some other magiybits
it will only work with some livecds cause all unetbootin actually does is unpack an iso, sets up syslinux properly and so on
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek In otehr words, it does use syslinux ---
 
7:33 AM
prolly
is doing 3 things at once ;p
 
Bob
lol
 
@Boris_yo: nothing is perfect ;p
 
Bob
@Boris_yo You're saying you're not using it in AHCI mode? Instead, you're using it in IDE/PATA/legacy mode?
 
@Bob No in RAID. SATA-6
 
Bob
That could also be a problem.
Apparently, some RAID controllers don't support TRIM
 
7:36 AM
@Bob Why? I have only 1 drive in system. Should I switch to AHCI?
 
Bob
Well, without TRIM things are going to slow down/die faster. Generally.
So, yes, AHCI is recommended.
 
why are you running a single drive in raid?
 
Bob
But I don't use SSDs, so you might want to ask someone else.
@JourneymanGeek There is that too :P
@Boris_yo TRIM in RAID support depends on your specific RAID controller.
 
Bob
@Boris_yo That's the drive. Not all RAID controllers will pass a TRIM command onto the actual drive, regardless of support on the OS/drive sides.
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A: Is TRIM supported on RAID 0 configurations for SSD drives in Windows 7?

sblairEdit: For some systems, Intel now supports passing the TRIM command to SSDs in RAID-0. The requirements are: A 7-series motherboard (6-series chipsets are unfortunately not supported). Intel's Rapid Storage Technology (RST) for RAID driver version 11.0 or greater (11.2 is the current rel...

That was as of 1-2 years ago
wait
@Boris_yo is it actually in a RAID volume? :\
 
7:45 AM
@Bob What is RAID volume? I only got C:\ and hidden recovery volume.
 
Bob
@Boris_yo a RAID volume means you have gone into your RAID controller settings and set up a volume with disk(s) in RAID, as opposed to plugging a single disk in and 'just using it'
 
Actually I don't understand why I need RAID if there is only 1 drive in my laptop.
 
Bob
...then why did you enable it? :S
 
@Bob I don't know, it was set as default...
 
Bob
...wut.
 
7:48 AM
gd luck @bob
 
@jokerdino wut?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo Hmm?
 
@Bob Okay I will switch to AHCI and remove Intel RST drivers to keep using Windows'? Or not remove Intel RST?
 
Bob
I don't know anymore. I have no idea what is going on over there, but you need help :P
You might want to look up some guides to safely disable RAID while keeping your Windows installation though
 
@Bob You mean switching to AHCI can destroy my data?
 
Bob
7:51 AM
I've never tried it. I need to do it myself, but I'm too scared :P
In any case, always have a backup. Especially since your drive is acting up.
 
@Bob You are using RAID too?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo Yes.
In retrospect, it was a very stupid thing to do.
 
Not only mine:

http://communities.intel.com/message/166378#166378
 
Bob
@Boris_yo I repeat. Always have a backup.
 
@Bob Roger that. But backing up 80GBs (AGAIN!) will take half hour minimum.
 
Bob
7:56 AM
Hey, be happy. I started an 8 hour backup of a 20/160GB drive the other day.
Cancelled at the 5 hour mark and started a 1 hour one, with lower compression :\
I'm an idiot.
 
@Bob Does compression really make the difference? High hasn't much difference from low by the way.
 
@Boris_yo If you're using like LZMA2 on Ultra vs. lzop, then yes.
 
Bob
@Boris_yo bzip2 is very slow. gzip is quite fast. the end size, bzip2 should have been smaller but I'd expect it to be similar.
 
@Bob Bzip2's not that slow. Try zpaq with max.cfg.
 
Bob
@Boris_yo The compression algorithm ends up with quite a lot of speed/size difference. low/medium/high/whatever options are only available on some algorithms anyway, and they're usually just abstraction from your archiving program.
@Mechanicalsnail Ok, ok. Relative to gzip, I'd still say it's very slow :P
 
8:04 AM
@Bob Are you proponent of backup compression?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo What?
 
@Boris_yo Compressing with something fast like lzop or sometimes gzip usually will speed things up, since disk speed is the bottleneck.
 
Bob
> Proponent: A person who advocates a theory, proposal, or project.
 
Especially if you're backing up from an SSD to an external drive, or a local disk over the network.
 
Bob
Well, I don't really have enough space to make uncompressed backups/images of all my drives. Compression does a good job of stripping/compressing out empty space anyway.
@Mechanicalsnail Only makes it faster if the destination drive is slower than the source, though.
 
8:06 AM
@Bob Okay, are you advocate of compressing backups?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo If you're asking if I support compressing backups? I really don't know how to answer.
Personally, I always apply some compression to disk images.
 
@Mechanicalsnail @Bob I am using Acronis with its compression algorithm. I backup partitions, disks for easier restoration later.
 
Bob
Not much point compressing music/videos/pictures
 
gzip, lzop don't backup disks and partitions into images for later restoration after drive failure to new drive. Are we talking full backups or part backups here?
@Bob Why by the way? Did you like AHCI better?
 
@Boris_yo They're compression algorithms. You can apply them as part of any backup system.
 
Bob
8:10 AM
@Boris_yo What?
It was stupid because my HDDs are rather slow, I'm using RAID 1 and the Intel "fake RAID" is crap.
 
@Bob You can click on "Enter arrow" to see my reply to your earlier message. I replied to your message about using RAID.
 
Bob
Ideally, RAID 1 should have same write and maybe faster read. In creality, with the Intel rubbish, I have slower write and read.
Much slower.
@Mechanicalsnail Heck, you can run a compressed backup with something like dd if=/dev/sda | gzip
 
@Bob Oh yeah? And do you remember VelociRaptor 10000rpm HDD? They are?/were? very expensive.
 
Bob
@Boris_yo I don't have the money to spend on fast drives. I need the storage space more than I need to get rid of that particular bottleneck.
 
@Bob I am using Windows so no options for me for compressing like this.
 
Bob
8:13 AM
I just have to cope with higher loading times, etc.
@Boris_yo You can do this on Windows. You can do this on a boot disc.
There is no restriction like that from using Windows.
But I wouldn't recommend it.
 
@Bob I also would be continuing using HDD if there wasn't group buy for SSD.
 
Bob
It's just a simple, kind of proof-of-concept way, and far from optimal.
 
Was thinking about installing old HDD into CD-ROM bay with this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300688012764?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
 
 
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:(
 
@jokerdino only 8849 more rep needed
 
Thanks for that. o.O
Will reach it in a matter of years :D
 
Bob
10:02 AM
@Sathya I've pretty much stopped answering questions - and I don't even know why! :P
@jokerdino seems to have stopped before he really started :\
 
:P
I never really started.
 
Bob
Spending all your time on chat and AU :P
 
Haha
 
@Bob Mostly chat :P
 
10:04 AM
fwiw I haven't answered in ages
 
Bob
Actually, I think I stopped around the time I discovered chat :S
 
Trickle rep from interest
Haha
 
@Bob: haven't had that issue
I DO find i have lull periods tho
like now
 
@nifle done
 
Bob
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Q: How to view a transparent image in a non-transparent way under Ubuntu?

SteveOWhen opening a transparent image in gnome image viewer, the background is shown to be check board, which makes the image difficult to see. Is there some way to view a transparent image in a non-transparent way under Ubuntu? Thanks!

 
10:05 AM
@Bob I see a perma ban coming your way :P
 
Bob
Get to work, @jokerdino! :P
@jokerdino Huhwha?
idon'tgetthejoke
 
@Bob Answering questions is so mainstream. :P
 
I was answering questions before it was cool ;p
 
yes that :P
 
does want to hit 40K by december
 
10:07 AM
I think that is quite possible.
And why the heck are you still in English chat room?
 
oh, computer hopping ;p
 
You joined them since our last invade?
 
you naughty :P
 
Its all part of my plan to take over the world
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10:09 AM
Let the world burn.
 
Unlike that darned EC
;p
 
Bob
@jokerdino Invade? o.O
 
haha
@Bob err yeah.
 
Bob
don'tkillme
 
Once upon a time, the whole of Ubuntu chat invaded English chat room.
 
Bob
10:10 AM
lol
Ok, time to draw a banana -_-
 
and we lost Journeymangeek to them since then.
@Bob >__________>
 
yet I am here
 
Lol
 
banananananananananananananananana
 
@JourneymanGeek nanana + batman remix?
 
10:12 AM
   ".           ,#
   \ `-._____,-'=/
____`._ ----- _,'____
       `-----'
 
It looked like something else for a sec.
 
a banana split?
 
Don't put that image into my head.. :/
 
there, that should take care of it.
 
Black cats ~_~
 
10:16 AM
gawd, there's no pleasing some people ;p
 
:P
 
11:05 AM
 
11:20 AM
whoo
 
@Sathya nice
 
installed it. o-O
 
Man, that Black Mesa is really something
 
:p
@jokerdino :p
@Sathya hi..dude..whats up?
 
11:52 AM
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Q: I NEED USERNAME & PASSWORD TO BOOT LAPTOP OS

v.vinoth kumarI have a tamilnadu govt lenovo B460e model laptop which has dual OS boot (windows7 and boss gnu/linux) In GRUB suddenly the windows 7 changed to windows vista and linux has changed to two versions. If I try booting any OS, I get asked for a username and password. I tried a few usernames and pass...

@JourneymanGeek ^^
@OliverSalzburg How big is it ?
 
@HackToHell The archive is 3GB
 
:/
And the cost of domain name renewals have gone up
 
12:12 PM
I'd like a recommendation on what wireless card to buy and all the stackexchange point out that that kind of question gets outdated too quickly, but to try the chat rooms, so here I am.
I have an ancient Dell Optiplex (400MHz) that's great except for the lack of a wireless card. I've tried for a while to get a wifi dongle working on it, but it's been an uphill struggle. Is there any way to buy a card and have any idea that it'll work with Debian?
Here's people trying to help me get the dongle noticed.
 
Use markdown.
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Q: How do I make Debian use my wireless dongle?

John BaberDebian doesn't seem to notice my Netgear WNA1000M even after I followed the directions for what I believe to be its chipset. How can I make this dongle work with Debian? $ lsmod |grep 8192cu rtl8192cu 73690 0 rtl8192c_common 51783 1 rtl8192cu rtlwifi 75150 ...

 
12:36 PM
@HackToHell Geez...
> the characters that I type are not even displayed
 
@OliverSalzburg you can also write the title
 
1:19 PM
@jokerdino I've done that quite a few times when posting comments..
 
I never did though..
it never strike my mind
 
Bob
1:42 PM
@TomWijsman That confused the heck out of me the first time I used sudo...
The first time I accidentally dropped to single user mode was quite confusing too.
Combine them and...
 
1:56 PM
@JohnBaber: I've generally had good luck with ralink on linux - they even have had official drivers. Tho.. its a desktop. Any reason you can't go with ethernet and a wifi bridge to connect that?
 
2:28 PM
While I shared this on G+ ... engadget.com/2012/09/15/…
overkill!
 
Bob
Now I'm just waiting for someone to set up an array of those with a SIM card for every carrier/country in the world.
 
lol
@Bob: the company that's doing it only supports 5 countries at the moment ;p
 
Bob
2:44 PM
@JourneymanGeek Yea, but isn't it possible to put your own SIM card(s) in?
 
I'd assume so
 
3:35 PM
@OliverSalzburg Nice
 
@HackToHell Landed right on its face :D
 
How do i make my CPU start as soon as it gets power instead of it waiting for me to press the on button
 
@HackToHell Sometimes it can be set in BIOS, otherwise there's a hardware solution, but I don't know any details
 
3:57 PM
lol @ that cat picture
 
@OliverSalzburg My p3 was capable of doing that, does it have a name
 
by "CPU" you mean your entire computer, right? not just literally wake up the central processing unit?
(I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely curious)
 
yeah, start the computer
 
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Q: Automatically turn on computer when A/C power is available

SterlingIn order to protect against power failure (which may be relatively common in my situation) for a hardware setup powered by a mini PC, I need for the computer to turn on automatically, and as soon as possible, when A/C power is available. I've heard that some BIOS have an option to automatically t...

belongs on SU ;P
 
4:13 PM
looks like I have to do a google marathon
facepalm My BIOS has that option
 
No... read-only mode is not fun when reviewing. Gist to the rescue!
 
doing a full system upgrade of a lot of old packages to much newer ones makes me nervous, even though I have KVM-over-IP to my server and I'm only upgrading an OpenVZ Container, not the host OS
keep wondering when it's going to give me glibc runtime errors or something... or kill ssh
it had to remove 44 packages to upgrade, which sounds scary, but most of them appear to be deprecated package names that were just replaced with something else (it's also installing 177 new packages)
why are we in read-only mode?
 
4:32 PM
@allquixotic Moving servers to another rack, as stated on SO.
 
oh cool
 
4:45 PM
Neat :D
 
indeed
 
5:03 PM
holy moly, I have 100 Mbps upstream on my server and I'm only using about 8% of it on the black mesa source torrent because there are like three times as many seeds as there are downloaders, so my capacity isn't even needed O_o
I'm pushing ~1000 KiB/s right now which is about 1/11 of what my pipe is capable of... and half of that is to one guy in the same country as the server
downloaded the 3 GB file in about 5 minutes lol
 
5:27 PM
@Nhinkle How is your website setup? Are you running your own system at home? or is it hosted somewhere?
 
 
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6:28 PM
They broke the site again?
Does anyone here know how to search for US trade dresses?
Or knows where to find the Apple trade dress " '983 " covering the iPhone design?
 
 
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9:57 PM
@DanielBeck: I'd guess us copyright office, but their page is very 90s
and sloooow
maybe they should team up with google ;p
 
@allquixotic Did you play it already?
 
er my bad, its apparently under the USPTO
bricking american alphabet soup agencies.
 

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