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3:59 AM
Deep down inside everyone loves Thinkpads for having not changed a bit.
 
lol
@jcrawfordor: i waited something like 2 months for this laptop
and its awesome
and yes, there's changes ... the keys are slightly wider and shallower, and they did this wierd thing with a double length esc and del key
 
4:15 AM
Well, and they've definitely gotten thinner and lighter. I just like that they've kept the exact same conservative styling for so long.
 
4:26 AM
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Q: Super User Moderator Cards

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hi @jcrawfordor nice blog post there.
 
4:38 AM
thanks. it's a bit long and rambling, unfortunately. well, more than a bit long. hopefully only a bit rambling.
 
I still haven't read it completely :p need to take a deeper look at it later.
currently under my read-it-later list :)
 
haha. My read-it-later list keeps getting longer. :)
 
same here :P
 
4:59 AM
eheh
@jcrawfordor: my dad thought it was a netbook
 
I think Engadget has been referring to devices in that class as "notbooks"
 
lol
its a subnotebook
also, this is like, THE perfect school notebook, IMO
 
I think my next laptop will be a 14", I get tired of carrying my 15.6" between classes.
although I'm really looking at the x120e
 
I was looking at the x120e if i hadn't been able to get this
Well, i THOUGHT i was getting a x220i, but i ain't complaining ;p
 
I thought I wouldn't mind because the 15.6 fits in my bag fine, but the reality is I increasingly don't take my bag to class, so I'm looking for a laptop that's lighter to carry on its own.
 
5:08 AM
@JourneymanGeek did you get it then?
 
i'm on it right now ;p
sweet little thing. Just two minor annoyances, one of which is fixable
i'm not used to the new lenovo giant delete key, and its displacement of the insert key
and it didn't come with the optional trackpoint tops
 
aha
 
when I was working Lenovo service, I replaced a guy's trackpoint cap once just because I noticed it was worn... and he wrote back about it. I think it changed his life, he was so happy.
 
lol
i think its something like 30 quid for all 3 sorts
apparently the current lenovo default is the mushroom cap. I like the concave cap
 
5:43 AM
hmm
 
 
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7:04 AM
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, concave ("rimmed") is the best. You can get them on eBay for a few pennies, so I'd not worry about which one you get with it
I used to use the classic cat-tongue one for ages after the new ones came out. I was a late convert.
I even changed my X40 back to classic (it came with domed).
 
I swapped it to the one that i took off my r51, which i had been using on my r61
also, mystery yellow port is 'always on', not USB 3.0... which makes more sense ;p
still haven't found any way of working out the monitor is
god its a sweet box tho
boots in something like... 10 seconds.
 
@JourneymanGeek What mystery yellow port? Which model laptop are you talking about anyway?
 
x220 - the port on the right side is yellow and looks... odd
 
SSD?
 
no. that's the scary but
 
7:19 AM
I think that is just powered USB even when it's off.
Lucky.
 
it came with a 320 gb hard drive (NOT the 160 i was told). They apparently did something with the boot process to speed it up
yup
 
Which CPU?
I think only the i7 ones have USB3.0, IIRC
 
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz
wierdly, its got a 32 bit OS
 
And which creen option did you get? Did you get the IPS screen? It's a pity they switched the aspect ratio
 
with 4gb of ram ._.
i have no idea which screen it is
and there seems no softwareish way to tell
 
7:21 AM
I think you can use the same serial when you reinstall with a x64 Windows OS
If the colours look great, it's IPS.
 
there's no serial at the bottom. I got recovery media that's 32 bit only tho
oh, they do
and its BRIGHT
well, this specific model ISN'T in tabook
so i can't check there
 
That will be the LED backighting, but you are more likely to have the TN screen
You can see the specs by looking up the model number. What model is it?
 
4291-D58
 
I'm jealous
 
^^
I was actually expecting the core i3 model ._.
 
7:25 AM
Are you sure that model number is correct. Nothing coming up
 
morning all
 
yeah
that's the odd thing
it MIGHT be a special/bulk order or something
 
Well, here's the specs for the closest model number there:
You even have the Gobi WWAN/GPS card
 
not from what i can tell
and no camera
 
Oh, it is a different model number anyway
 
7:29 AM
yeah
still
it weighs almost nothing, i hardly notice the tiny screen
and the keyboard is actually slightly BIGGER than my r61
or it feels that way
 
With its lightness and very long battery life, I think they are not going to bother making a X220s version
 
@DMA57361, might want to check out M.SU later on...
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Q: Stack Overflow Moderator Cards

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@paradroid: Its almost perfect ;p
 
I don't think they have changed the chassis much since the X200/X201, by the look of the pictures I have seen
 
@tombull89 already seen the SU version, (♦'s get all new meta questions in our inboxes), but thanks :)
 
7:31 AM
i think the screen is larger than the x201
 
apart from the inferior aspect ratio they are using. Apple must be making dodgy deals with the screen manufacturers
 
@DMA57361 nice...although that would annoy me a little. You fancy one?
 
keyboard is a bit quirky, giant esc key, giant delete key...
 
Yes, slightly larger, but shorter
 
@tombull89 tbh I'm not sure I'd use them
 
7:32 AM
They introduced that keyboard on the T series in the previous generation
 
not TOO fond of it for typing in the darl
dark
 
Why? There's the ThinkLight
 
i touchtype
 
So what's the problem with the dark???
 
and i stay up later than i should. The thinklight on this... is rather bright to do that
i keep hitting del when i want to hit ins
until i get used to the keyboard ;)
 
7:35 AM
Any new ThinkVantage stuff?
 
power manager dynamically tells you your power usage
and how much time is left
so... its 2 hours with everything and pickles. 6ish with everything low, but network
I need to test with network shut off
 
Erm, it did that on my X31. But they stopped the Watt display on the X200s for some reason. So it looks like it's back now
 
other than that...
nothing's preinstalled ;)
 
and it has always done time left
 
they install it on demand.
the R series didn't have the watt display, if i remember correctly
 
7:37 AM
really? nothing? not even System Update?
 
not even that
 
crazy
but what about TrackPoint drivers??
 
i think only power management stuff, 'airbag' and recovery is preinstalled
hm, those are, but those are autoinstalled even on vanilla 7 installs on thinkpads i think
 
What happens with the Fn+F?? function keys?
 
er..
those seem to work
ooh
 
7:39 AM
then there must be ThinkVantage stuff installed
 
it has keyboard noise suppression for the onboard mic
yeah, but not everything
 
It does that by having two mics
 
still, cool feature
it also has something for turning the system sideways for reading like a book that i haven't tested yet
 
The Intel graphics drivers have that on any computer
CTRL + ALT + Arrow keys, by default, IIRC
 
eh, i remember that. its horrid since it never turns around the mouse ;p
 
7:41 AM
or SHIFT + ALT
 
well, this claims to have some special thing for it
i'll test it when i need it ;p
 
Any other new features?
 
er...
i have no idea ;p
hm
the trackpad?
 
You did not get dual storage, with the mSATA SSD?
 
7:43 AM
Boo to the trackpad! Disable it!
 
its an odd one tho. its like a big... textured thing, and the whole thing is one big button
 
If you can set it to only be used for gestures, I suppose that would be pretty good.
Ah, copying Apple
 
ooh
yeah, it does the pinchy zoomy thing and all
 
Damn, I want to get one quickly
 
XD
i DID wait 2 monthsish
 
7:46 AM
I hope they do Core i5 with IPS screen. It's a pity that there is one less mPCIe slot now, so you cannot have both WWAN/GPS and mSATA SSD at the same time.
So I will have to forget dual storage and get a 2.5" SSD
 
there's a core i5 model with IPS
 
I don't need large capacity anyway, I have my private cloud going on.
 
i think those are labelled as 'prem' in tabook
 
Great
prem means IPS screen?
 
7:48 AM
I need a the latest tabook. Got a link?
 
hm
i can't get a straight link cause its a PDF
google tabook. first link
 
you just right click the link and copy link. n00b!
 
that gives me a giant link ;p
like that
 
Weird. I'm using Google Chrome, and it does not give the Google redirect link.
 
ahh
on FF
 
7:52 AM
I wonder if that new L Series has the classic rubber finish? They seem a lot better than the R Series it replaces
As it has all the enterprise stuff now.
Intel vPro remote management
 
but... THAT WILL LET THE MAN REMOTELY BRICK YOUR PUTER! THE NSA GUY SAID SO ;p
 
That's another thing I should have enabled on my X200s. The Intel AMT > Intel Anti-Theft technology
 
or prey? ;p
 
And if I installed Prey I would have my X200s back now, with the satisfaction of getting the thief busted too.
Yeah. Prey. It even had webcam and GPS. I should have installed Prey and kept the Guest account open. Would have worked.
I kept on meaning to but never got around to it. :/
 
tends to happen
 
7:57 AM
I was waiting until I did an OS reinstallation
 
AFK a bit. need to walk the dog
 
ok
 
8:41 AM
back
 
9:02 AM
@Wil what do you need a developer for?
 
What the? I have a "news feed" in the top corner of my chat now, where did that come from?
Heya @IvoFlipse, good holiday?
 
@Mokubai I'm not seeing it
@Mokubai still having a holiday, just at home right now :P
 
It popped up briefly earlier.
 
@Mokubai I got that too, someone's added the SU.meta posts as a feed item in "ticker" mode -- chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/118/root-access?tab=feeds
 
I like it, I wouldn't mind knowing how to get it back if I click "dismiss"
 
9:07 AM
@Mokubai You don't AFAIK without going into the rooms feed settings or something
its meant to reduce the inline spam of question feeds and such
@DMA57361 good job on the scheduling on gaming.blogoverflow :)
 
@IvoFlipse np, hello btw, good time away? (and are you actually back?)
 
@DMA57361 my GF says I'm not back yet ;P I was just reading stuff on Hacker News
 
lol
 
I was actually planning on spending some time on my own blog this week, but I ended up doing pretty much nothing and trying to enjoy E3 through a 3G connection
 
heh, always the way. Too many distractions...
 
9:13 AM
@DMA57361 But I enjoyed doing nothing, so I'm not complaining
 
@DMA57361 that would be me.
 
@IvoFlipse f/e, a breaks always nice
 
hey @IvoFlipse
 
@Sathya hi @Sathya
 
@Sathya ah ok, it's not a problem, it's just the feeds screen doesn't say who set them up (that I can see)
 
9:14 AM
Just got this disturbing image from that phd-er from London @DMA57361
turns out my horizontal axis is flipped :P
can you guess the implication?
 
jet fighter?
ufo?
 
@IvoFlipse the horizontal is flipped? oh dear... and presumably it means the paw allocations are wrong?
 
@DMA57361 bingo! it means I've effectively swapped all my left and right paws :P
 
@Sathya DNSSD is useful, some of out bits and bobs are Bonjour aware and it makes it a lot easier to navigate to them
Or Zeroconf or whatever you call it
 
@IvoFlipse how easy to fix?
 
9:17 AM
I'm a bit scared to simply flip the switch and mass convert those though
 
@Mokubai but what's that doing in your FF address/toolbar?
 
@DMA57361 well I have a back up of the database, so I can 'undo' it. But I would probably write a function that simply changes 1-2 to 3-4 and vice versa, just need to make sure it figures out which to change to what and then apply it. Else changing 1 to 3 would result in all 3's becoming 1's afterwards :P
 
Wil
@IvoFlipse You are here!? Thought you abandoned us and only go to the fitness SE now!?
 
@IvoFlipse yeah, using an intermediate number is easier imo: 1->5, 3->1, 5->3
 
Wil
9:19 AM
... It is a friend I know, looking for a programmer so trying to help him out
 
@Wil lol, he's been hiding in Fake Programmers all this time ;P
 
@DMA57361 As for the displaying, I actually believe all my axis are flipped, so if I change 1->3 I need to mirror my average contacts as well
@Wil this room is a time sink :P
 
@IvoFlipse lol... in which case maybe it's reality that's flipped and your software is just right all along ;P
 
@Sathya Click a button and you see all your network zeroconf devices, it's neat. I can mess with our printers without ever going near an IP scanner.
(but that's not the reason why I have it in the first place)
(just a bonus)
 
@DMA57361 well I was planning on testing that by uploading a human measurement, where I know the difference
at least I know where the big toe goes and such :P
 
9:21 AM
@IvoFlipse sounds like a sensible idea
 
@Wil Are you developing something?
Need an ASP.net MVC Razor developer ASAP! Immediate start - £350-£400 a day. DM For details!... Must be someone out there?
 
@Mokubai aha.
 
@Sathya: I got my laptop yesterday. Finally ;p
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@JourneymanGeek yaaay!
 
its the core i5 model, not the core i3 model. Only complaint i have is... its got a 32 bit OS and 4 gb of ram
 
9:27 AM
@JourneymanGeek You can fix one of those two
anyway bbl
 
@IvoFlipse: well, lenovo has some modifications to the OS, and the restore disks are 32 bit. Unless i can use a 'retail' OEM disk (and i only have 32 bit of that too), or ask lenovo for disks for a model that dosen't exist on tabook..
its not a huge issue, its just odd
and its a 320 gb hard drive, not a SSD. but with 12 second booting, i'm fine with that
 
Wil
@IvoFlipse Sorry, so busy today... well yes, but this role is for a friend, not for my company
 
@JourneymanGeek Is it Pro or Enterprise?
 
 
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11:22 AM
any of you guys experienced with FTP servers on Debian?
 
nope.
 
double nope
 
seems there are too many choices and I hate having too many choices :(
 
triple nope.
 
Comms Room is a better place to ask about that @slhck
 
11:23 AM
I'll try there, yup
Thanks @Sathya
 
@slhck welcome.
 
@Sathya O_o which question is that on...? :/
 
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seems as if Jeff just wanted to leave it there for all to see
ok yeah
 
@slhck yeah, I know. I am just bored so created that :P
 
11:28 AM
@Sathya Haha, yeah, I like screenshots with big red text
 
heh, oh dear
 
wow you mods are quick :D
 
@slhck how so?
 
I just flagged a not-an-answer answer and it was deleted within like.. 10 secs
or maybe it wasn't the only flag waiting
 
@slhck a "thanks" one with something about translating from spanish?
 
11:35 AM
@DMA57361 did it I suppose
 
@DMA57361 Yeah that one
 
@slhck twas just good timing, no flags showing, and I moved to the "flags" page (which I do when going idle so I can come back and refresh every so often) and it had just appeared
 
@DMA57361 I figured :)
Well ok gotta go again, I have some coffee business to take care of
l8rz
 
12:00 PM
Urgh, finding a decent "todo list" type application for Windows is a PITA
 
@Mokubai evernote?
 
for me, notepad .txt files are good enough. Small files, readable on all platforms, don't need any extra software.
 
@Sathya That's more of a synchronised notepad isn't it? or am I missing something?
 
hmm, right
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Q: Which tool do you use for your to-do list?

DaniI've been constantly switching tools that keep track of my to-do list: Online account in SimpleGTD To-do applet in my RSS aggregator Outlook's builtin Task List My cellphone's built-in to-do list Post-it notes on my monitors at home and at work Paper list in my wallet (thought about enhancing i...

 
trying abstractspoon.com ToDoList for the moment, but it seems overly complicated
@Sathya I was going through that list as well, but most of them seem to be web-based
 
12:03 PM
@Mokubai okay
 
Not that I don't appreciate the pointer :)
Maybe I just don't actually know what I really want to be able to do with a self-organiser...
 
>_>
a small notebook, and a pen
geek hides
 
@Mokubai well there's this as well (if you haven't seen it already)
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Q: How do you keep track of what you have to do throughout the day?

digiduckThroughout the day at work I have people coming to me asking me to do things, letting me know about problems, etc. Some of these come "in-person", some come via e-mail or phone. I can't always drop what I'm doing to resolve the item, so I typically will keep a list going on a notepad on my desk a...

 
@Mokubai well cleared out the crap in there
 
12:08 PM
@Sathya I hadn't seen that one though
Yeah, I noticed the one I linked had vanished :)
 
what's with SO migrating all their really old questions recently..?
 
@DMA57361 probably people who aren't aware of dont migrate old crap
 
Hmmm, ToDoList seems to be pretty neat actually. Maybe once I get my android tablet I'll look into a webby/android tasklist
Subtasks with time allocated cascade up to the parent task to give a reasonable estimation of time, easy to move tasks. It's cluttered, but not too bad...
 
@Sathya indeed, there just seem to have been a lot recently :(
 
hmm.
@DMA57361 the redesigned 10k tools might also be a reason
 
12:21 PM
yeah, that's what I was thinking, makes it easier for users find questions to join in with
 
anyhow,I'm out. Barcamp tomorrow. long travel day after. have a good weekend, all
 
you too, bye
 
hmm, i found a better build of xchat ;)
 
 
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2:02 PM
Holy carp, I've already managed to put over 500 tasks in my todo list!
@JourneymanGeek Which one would that be then?
 
2:19 PM
xchat-wdk
its more up to date than silverex, but the trade off is you use the gtk theme switcher, and you'll have to hack in /exec yourself
 
Wil
Any Facebook experts around or shall I ask on webapps? ... Done something a little silly and can't see how to undo
 
@Wil I use facebook, woudln't say I'm an expert though...try me, if not, ask on web apps.
 
Wil
I tried to unauthorise an application which worked, but then I went to put it back... Just curious to see if I could... but I haven't got a clue what/where it went... I went to "Add to my Page" > "App"... but can't see where to undo it/where it went :/
This is from another (First application I could find) of where I clicked... But what Page is "App" :/
 
@Wil not sure, don't really use apps, I'm too careful.
 
Wil
No problem, thanks anyway... will ask on webapps shortly
Also, to anyone who doesn't know... go here dropbox.com/gs and if you complete 5 steps (which most people will have already done) you get a free 250MB to dropbox! Also, here - a few easy steps for another 640Mb - dropbox.com/free
 
2:36 PM
^^
i totally forgot i did that XD
 
Wil
:)
 
also not a fan of dropbox...I'm...*too careful* :P plus my home upload is not that good.
 
i just use it for quick photo sharing
i'd gladly swap it for sparkleshare or whatever, once its got dedup and such
 
Wil
@tombull89 I love it now... It just comes in so handy - My brother is at university and much easier than via email... plus, if I need something urgent, I have it on there and can download... anything sensitive is encrypted, but I only have one or two sensitive files, everything else is just there for convenience
 
I get why it's popular but if I want to share or store something I'll put it on my webserver, more storage than I'll get from dropbox.
 
Wil
2:42 PM
@tombull89 I completely understand, and I was the same... until I started using it! You can't really appreciate something until you use it - I still use my web server all the time, but, if I just want a quick thing to put a file on all my computers, dropbox is quick and works well!
 
The sync features of Dropbox would be tempting, I have a number of computers + laptops at home with all different bits on.
Bugger it, i've not got any plans for the weekend, you have a referral link? Let's give it a go.
sorry, @Wil, if you've got a referral link ping me, I'll be off shortly.
 
Wil
@tombull89 hehe - don't feel like you have to, but thanks! - db.tt/5tPYOoO
sorry, just saw the notification...
I still use my NAS and it is just a nice extra, I sync my diagnosing tools which are a pain to keep updated, and a few other files
but also, as I said, right now, the main use is my brother and my dad who are away from home - and it is so much easier to plonk files in a directory than give a link
 
ow.
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@Wil Alright I'll do that when I get home.
 
Wil
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Q: What did I just add an application to?

WilI just did the step to add Facebook to my Dropbox account in order to get a bit of extra space, but then I wanted to undo it as I do not want Dropbox to make posts to my wall. However, the application doesn't look like a normal application (e.g. stays on the list on the left... I only got to it ...

@tombull89 don't feel like you have to use my link, but many thanks if you do!
 
@tombull89 I'm temped just to flag it as deletion fodder, posting an email address is a sure sign of someone shotgunning a load of sites and expecting them to get back to him rather than the other way around...
 
2:58 PM
@Mokubai I've taken out the e-mail, not bothered editing the question (if you could call it that) as I'm expecting it to be deleted.
 
Fair enough, ALLCAPS puts me on edge to begin with and then the "catch me if you can" mentality just infuriates me. There's also the "notify me by email" button if they can't be bothered to manually check...
NARQ it.
You have a kinder soul than me @Wil
 
Wil
@Mokubai hehe... Also, I have barely answered any questions in days, and there is finally one I can help with!!! (I have been checking from time to time, but all seem to be answered or ones I can't help with!)
 
I'm all for giving people answers, but not if I have to chase them down and force the answer on them
 
same issue i had XD
 
3:11 PM
Though I like jdeBPs comment
@Wil I know the feeling there, since my "big" question on monday I've been twiddling my thumbs hoping for another "fix" of rep...
 
Wil
That was a good one though! In all my answers, I think I have only had one run away hit
Had a quick look at my list, so many appear to be deleted :(
 
You've still got at least 5 "good answers", which is impressive. High upvotes seems to be tricky on SU....
 
Wil
@Mokubai over the course of the entire life of this site is nothing... But, can't really complain... just some good ones like the lmgtfy.com etc.
which I understand are against the FAQ, but they weren't at the time! :(
 
I've seen questions and answers coming over from SO that have a number of upvotes that I would sell someones grandmother to have...
 
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