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12:08 AM
@LeeWoofenden I think ridicule is overplaying it Lee - I'm sorry if you felt that way, it certainly wasn't my intention. I was merely trying to make the point strongly, because you weren't listening to what we were saying.
 
12:26 AM
@bruisedreed I was listening. You just didn't like my answers.
Protestants think, along with Martin Luther, that the entire church rises and falls on the doctrine of salvation by faith alone. And it will fall on that basis, because it is not from the Bible, but from Martin Luther's brain.
 
@LeeWoofenden My question was actually focused on the doctrinal perspective of the quote's originator, that was the important point - it does represent Protestant doctrine.
@LeeWoofenden I disagree with you there, but gtg - ttyl
 
@bruisedreed That quote was a side issue.
 
1:24 AM
@LeeWoofenden That answer got auto-flagged by Community♦ for being excessively long. :P
 
@fredsbend Thanks! That makes sense.
 
2:24 AM
@El'endiaStarman Not surprised. But it's hard to do justice to the major doctrine of Protestantism in a short piece. Plus, the Bible passages alone swelled it to at least twice the length it otherwise would have been. And I was restraining myself!
 
2:39 AM
@LeeWoofenden Since there's some doubt, let's put it out there - christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/42366/…
 
@bruisedreed Ha! You beat me to it!
 
@LeeWoofenden :-)
 
3:01 AM
@LeeWoofenden in the wikipedia sola-fide article, the (larger) quote from Horton attributes the quote to Luther
 
3:31 AM
@bruisedreed At times like this, I feel very assured of my Google-fu skills.
 
3:48 AM
@Nathaniel I took a stab at your Mt Moriah request. Let me know if you want anything else added.
 
@ThaddeusB Nice job! The only reason I said so little in my answer was because it didn't look like much more could be said. Obviously I was wrong.
But I am a little dejected about not being able to get that bounty.
 
@Mr.Bultitude Thanks... How did you make the pictures smaller in this answer - I wanted to make them smaller, but didn't know how and I don't see any difference in the code
 
@ThaddeusB SE's Imgur hosting is cool. If you add "l" to the end of an image url (before the extension), it'll post a large version, "m" for medium, and "s" for small. If you look at the markdown, you'll see that I added m's.
Neat, huh?
 
@Mr.Bultitude yes, very cool
 
4:27 AM
@bruisedreed Yes it does. But it still doesn't give a citation.
 
 
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10:43 AM
@El'endiaStarman I happen to think that the entire framework within which Sola fide exists is non-Biblical and false. But to deal with even the major elements of that framework, such as the Trinity, merit, imputation, penal substitution, and so on would have expanded the answer at least to chapter length, if not to book length. So I actually focused rather narrowly on the definition of Sola fide itself, and largely passed over the (faulty, in my view) theological framework in which it exists.
@curiousdannii continually charges me with not understanding the doctrine. I think I understand it tolerably well. But a full critique of it would require going far beyond reasonable length limits on this site.
 
 
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11:53 AM
@LeeWoofenden Tracking down the true origins of misattributed quotes is within the purview of Skeptics SE.
 
12:40 PM
@LeeWoofenden Don't you remember the last discussion we had on this when you had multiple Protestant people tell you that your own statements of what you believe actually expressed the meaning of sola fide?
 
 
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2:48 PM
@ThaddeusB Great job; very interesting. Thanks!
 
3:03 PM
@curiousdannii I'll respond to this in Polemics and Apologetics.
 
@Nathaniel You are welcome. I do enjoy these "historical research" type questions.
 

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