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nitsua60

12:05 AM

@BESW (Any excuse to link to that malamanteau comic)

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 hey there

nitsua60

hiya

BESW

Did you ever remember what that question you forgot was?

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 how're things going?

nitsua60

@Shalvenay I'm... hesitant about my new campaign starting on Monday. I've enjoyed prep, but get a little trigger-shy when it comes time to think about the practicalities of starting. (Right now there's so much possibility, and everything I have to do in the next few days seems like it'll rein that feeling in.)

@BESW (is this directed at me?)

BESW

12:09 AM

@nitsua60 Yar.

@nitsua60 Creativity is most stimulated when it's pressurised by limitations.

Miniman

@BESW But that doesn't mean you should cut off your ear! (Just sayin.)

nitsua60

hmm... well I'd forgotten that I'd forgotten a question. So I guess I'm a logical leap further away. (At this rate I may circle backwards around the issue and stumbel butt-long into the original question, I suppose.)

trogdor

lol

nitsua60

@BESW True. I've just been selfishly luxuriating in the infinite flexibility of the world so far. It's like napping on a trampoline: really fun, and ruined when someone else gets on. There are plenty of other types of fun to be had now that it's going to be a shared space, but that earlier fun's gone.

trogdor

@nitsua60 I have actually napped on a trampoline once, it was surprisingly easy

nitsua60

12:12 AM

It's awesome.

trogdor

as you mentioned though, someone invariably woke me up by getting onto it

XD

nitsua60

I highly recommend it to everyone. (Just be aware: you're going to be unreasonably mad when someone joins you.)

trogdor

I don't know how unreasonable it will be, but it will be upsetting

and someone will do it, because they can't help themselves, in my experience

nitsua60

(Also, I think I may be a little thinker's-blocked by the "western" theme players have requested for story.)

BESW

@nitsua60 Think "samurai" instead?

trogdor

12:17 AM

didn't you suggest that before?

BESW

Yes.

trogdor

not that it is a bad suggestion by any means

nitsua60

Unfortunately, I've seen even fewer samurai films than westerns =\

trogdor

any time you can add samurai to something it is great

almost as good as adding dragons

mmm dragon samurai

nitsua60

And I got a lot of good ideas from y'all's in re: common tropes--I'm just not really feeling it yet.

BESW

12:19 AM

Hrm.

One challenge may be that "Western" usually means lone-man stories.

Firefly does a pretty decent job turning it into an ensemble cast, but there's still rough edges on the conversion.

Adeptus

@BESW Either lone-man, or seven

nitsua60

Definitely Seven =)

Ben

12:39 AM

I have decided, that following a post-game discussion, that there is enough of a chance for the 7'2" blue-scaled, Greatsword-wielding Dragonborn Battle Master; "Toby", to fight another day.

BESW

@Shalvenay You may find this analysis of fictive assumption interesting.

I got it from this video about the difference between history and the past.

Miniman

@Ben I still have no idea what this means.

Ben

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Q: If the campaign stalls at a deadly cliffhanger and we never play again, is my character dead?

Is a character that's about to die just before a campaign is abandoned effectively dead? We have reached the climax of the game — the end all, "winner takes all" type situation. Two of us are unconscious (but stable), and 3 of us are in really bad shape, facing off against the big bad boss. It r...

@Miniman I spoke with the DM and he gave us a list of possible outcomes, with all things considered, there is enough of a chance for my character to have survived the situation. So I can safely use him in another game.

I like to follow some form of story... it doesn't really seem fair to think he died, and then use him again anyway.

Miniman

12:55 AM

@Ben Oh, I had the context already. This last bit is the bit that I was missing (and your question was missing).

(Because in general there's nothing stopping you from re-using a character, so no-one could work out the motivation for the question.)

BESW

@Miniman This.

Shalvenay

@Ben cool

BESW

I've used the "same" character at least five times in different campaigns; each time he was noticeably the same character, but also demonstrably not the same person, and no attempt to cohese all five versions into a single time line was ever implied.

Ben

@Miniman As per my usual rep - I only managed to actually specify what the question was after several rounds of people asking what the actual question was haha

BESW

@Ben That's what we're here for!

Miniman

1:00 AM

@BESW Well, it's one of the things we're here for.

BESW

True, there are many things.

Shalvenay

so how are you @Ben?

trogdor

many things on many springs

BESW

Miniman

Influence map for...?

Ben

1:02 AM

@BESW I haven't been playing any RPG for long, and this character is the one I've had the longest, so, I have become attached to him. Part of the reason is I want to have a character that I can always bring back, the other is that this game ended when he was only level 5, so I would like to see what he is "capable of"

BESW

@Miniman A campaign that has everything.

Adeptus

@BESW Hey, authors do it too. Weis & Hickman - Fizban & "Fiz... no I used that one before... Zifnab". In two different series that theoretically have no connection between them

BESW

@Adeptus I've met Zifnab, and later heard about Fizban.

Ben

@Shalvenay Busy, for the most part. Good, for the rest of the time

Shalvenay

@Ben quiet here, more or less

@BESW it is interesting indeed (albeit dripping with philosophical jargon)

Miniman

1:05 AM

@BESW The Hulk, a plant monster, and Thing? Feels more like a character than a campaign. An awesome character, btw.

BESW

@Miniman [blink]

trogdor

the Hulk what?

BESW

It's Thing, Thing, and Swamp Thing.

Ben

To his defense, I did only just realise that hiccup. I breezed over the "Hulk" mention haha

BESW

See also The Thing, The Thing, The Thing, and the Volkswagen Thing.

Shalvenay

1:08 AM

@Ben so...I've been rather curious as to a "Jherala at the royal ball" scene...

Ben

@Shalvenay Oh?

Miniman

@BESW Can I put that one down to a lack of sleep recently?

Ben

@Miniman Seconded

Shalvenay

@Ben it strikes me as the kind of thing that could turn out interesting, even if evil Hans wasn't there

@Ben (also, speaking of Hans, I think he should be glad he only had to deal with Jherala and her meat cleaver...;)

Ben

@Shalvenay I should mention that in my absence I have been doing some research into the weaknesses of certain character builds

Shalvenay

1:10 AM

@Ben hahaha. xD what has your research turned up?

Ben

It should certainly make character play much more interesting

Miniman

@Ben Duh duh DUH!

BESW

...and Man-Thing.

Shalvenay

@Ben definitely.

@Ben (although be glad it's 5e. 3.5's Druid is like....OMGWTFBBQ)

Ben

@Miniman Haha. That hiccup was just one of many, I'll have you know hahaha

@Shalvenay Vague on 3.5 I'm afraid

Shalvenay

1:13 AM

@Ben ah. the D&D 3.5e druid basically got what is the Circle of the Moon druid's capstone feature (i.e. casting while shaped) at L6.

Miniman

@Ben Huh? I was replying to "research on certain character builds" - it was vaguely ominous-sounding, especially after all the PvP you guys were doing.

@Shalvenay Don't forget the animal companion.

Ben

@Miniman I thought you were referring to my "Barbarian Rage" questions

Shalvenay

@Miniman yeah -- I hadn't gotten there yet, the casting while shaped is nasty enough

Miniman

@Ben Well, in case it needs to be said, nets are also pretty great against paladins, since most of their abilities only work in melee.

Shalvenay

@BESW
> An action, event, or property is narratively relevant (rather than purely descriptive) when it affects, through a causal chain, the relations among the worlds of the system.

Basically, I wonder if my detail problem is that I tend to incorporate finer details into the causal chains I'm trying to build than other people consider as part of their narrative models....

Ben

1:17 AM

@Miniman Yeah, in general (with a few obvious exceptions) nets are really handy

Shalvenay

@Ben I suspect that being covered in netting would make it rather hard to aim a ranged weapon or cast a spell, for that matter....

(i.e. tangled in it. gillie suit's a whole another story ofc)

Miniman

@Shalvenay Restrained = disadvantage on attack rolls.

Shalvenay

@Miniman nods makes sense

Miniman

I may have to try a net-wielding Rogue at some point.

Shalvenay

@Miniman they also sound like handy things to give to guards

Miniman

1:25 AM

@Shalvenay That could work out, although the disadvantage on attack rolls with nets makes them unlikely to work well for mook guards.

Maybe give them some kind of mini-Sentinel ability?

Adeptus

@BESW and Thing-on-a-Spring

Ben

@Miniman Who has the disadvantage?

Miniman

@Ben Without a feat, attack rolls using nets always have disadvantage.

Ben

@Miniman Hidden agendas

I do have the Sentinel Feat, what other feats would work?

doppelgreener

@BESW heck my first atomic robo character was the same character as we used for the enchanted forest chronicles game, only tuned as science flavored

BESW

1:33 AM

True.

Ben

@Miniman Ohhh, that's only in close combat, right?

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A: Are attacks with nets always made with disadvantage?

Yes, unless you take one of two feats. The other answers explain this more completely, but for completeness sake, I will reiterate: Under normal circumstances, due to the fact that the Net is a ranged weapon with a range of 5', you will be at disadvantage attacking with it. There are many ways ...

Miniman

@Ben They get disadvantage using nets from 5 feet because it's a ranged attack with an enemy in melee, and disadvantage using nets from further than 5 feet because the normal range of nets is 5 feet.

Ben

@Miniman hence the "perpetual disadvantage", yeah?

BESW

"Perpetual Disadvantage" would be a good name for a band.

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Miniman

@Ben Yep.

Ben

1:40 AM

@BESW Has that been added to the "Memes of RPG.SE" yet?

BESW

@Ben [shrug]

Miniman

@Ben You can alleviate the 5 foot disadvantage with Crossbow Expert, or the > 5 foot disadvantage with Sharpshooter.

BESW

Is it really a meme of RPG.SE if it's chat-only?

Ben

@BESW They've done similar things on Arqade, using chat as well.

BESW

...that's Arqade.

Ben

1:42 AM

@BESW True. But I'm just saying haha

BESW

So far as I know, there's no such post here yet and I'm not sure --given our history of struggling with the role of chat as relates to the main site-- it would really be a great idea.

trogdor

Arqade is a pretty different place

Miniman

@Ben Thinking about it further, my first ever homebrew feat: Retiarius: Hostile creatures within 5 feet of you do not inflict disadvantage on attacks you make with nets. If you are wielding a net in one hand and a melee weapon in the other, attacking with the net does not prevent you from making additional attacks with the melee weapon using features like Extra Attack.

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Adeptus

@Ben also SF&F

Shalvenay

hey there @IgneusJotunn

IgneusJotunn

1:52 AM

hey

Shalvenay

@IgneusJotunn how've things been? it sure has been a long, long time!

IgneusJotunn

@Shalvenay I know, I've been keeping crazy hours lately

How've you been?

Ever finish the electro-dungeon?

Shalvenay

@IgneusJotunn alright, albeit rather starved for RP these days -- one of my RP groups collapsed due to hte DM having biology problems, another is waiting for one of the DMs to free up

@IgneusJotunn it's been shelved for the time being

IgneusJotunn

@Shalvenay I wound up dropping out of most of mine when I graduated and left campus. Just a pair of Exalted games left on a regular basis.

Shalvenay

@IgneusJotunn ah. I have this Stack's 5e game left

IgneusJotunn

1:59 AM

@Shalvenay D&D?

Shalvenay

@IgneusJotunn yep

and that's hit or miss because Wax's internet and schedule both conspire against him

IgneusJotunn

@Shalvenay Kill any dragons yet?

Shalvenay

@IgneusJotunn some half-dragons, but we have gotten away without killing either of the fullbloods

IgneusJotunn

@Shalvenay I always say it's not a Dungeons and Dragons game until you've plumbed a dungeon and fought a dragon

Call me a traditionalist :)

Shalvenay

although I do want to see the look on a dragon's face the first time they get jet blasted into Jamaica Bay

nitsua60

2:22 AM

Gosh, I love MATLAB. Just figured out how to wallpaper elevation data downloaded from NOAA with satellite image taken from Google. Sent this along to players with the few lines of "current-story" they'll be walking into on Monday:

I suppose next I'll be doing the same with Mars elevation data and images from MSL and playing a "John Carter" game =)

Ben

DM Tip: If you're ever out of names for locations in your game - use local street names.

IgneusJotunn

2:38 AM

@Ben "You enter the necromancer's lair, the dreaded Park Mountain, at the heart of the Main Empire!"

I dunno, maybe you have cooler street names than me

Eh, who am I to talk- I use foreign beer brands.

Shalvenay

@Ben :P

Ben

Yeah, places like Mooney Gorge, and Bamford

BESW

4:04 AM

@Ben "Happy Landings Road." Hmm.

@IgneusJotunn In our Umdaar campaign, we plumbed a dragon and fought a dungeon.

Ben

@BESW Happy's Landing

BESW

(Well, it was a Tremors/Dune style sandworm, but close enough.)

IgneusJotunn

@BESW Also acceptable :)

Ben

Or maybe a little variation makes "Harpy's Landing"

@BESW How did the dungeon take it?

IgneusJotunn

I really just want to title drop all over the place in my summaries

BESW

4:06 AM

@Ben It tried to take us out with it.

Ben

Feisty

BESW

Umdaar's "Cliffhanger" scene mechanic is fun.

Ben

I got it 12 high, then the other bloke said it wasn't legit because I didn't have any d20's in there. So to spite him I just plonked 3 ontop

BESW

Aaaah I accidentally posted a totally incomplete question. [deletes]

@Ben ...dread hack?

Ben

At which point I found out that this guy has a DM rule that any dice towers built in-game are rewarded with a conflict with a challenge rating of the height of the dice tower*number of players

@BESW Haha no, boredom

Was waiting for the other guys to show

BESW

4:15 AM

@Ben And now you know how to farm XP.

BESW

4:29 AM

I finally remembered to ask this question.

Miniman

4:42 AM

@BESW "The Stack will not upvote untested speculation." [citation needed]

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BESW

@Miniman shh.

Miniman

@BESW I say it with regret and resignation, if that helps.

BESW

4:59 AM

@PatLudwig Hi!

Miniman

@BESW I wasn't seriously suggesting you change it, btw.

BESW

Mm, I wasn't content with it.

Magician

5:15 AM

@BESW do cliffhangers postulate PCs have to use a different approach for each exchange? I have skimmed the rules, but haven't found that.

BESW

Don't think so, no.

Magician

Right. So if a character with a good approach is in a cliffhanger where that approach is easy, they'll just use that repeatedly to win.

BESW

Once they identify it.

Part of the dynamic of cliffhangers that makes them unique is, unlike almost every other Fate roll, cliffhanger rolls are made with an unknown target number.

Magician

Sure, but it should usually make sense.

> Of course, GMs, don’t reveal a difficulty for a specific approach until a player attempts it—let them stumble around to see which methods are more effective.

I'm not sure how deliberate that is, or, rather, how much that is meant to be a part of cliffhangers as a mechanic as opposed to a GMing style the author prefers.

trogdor

we have used this mechanic though, and generally we didn't immediately find that easy approach

it is totally deliberate

Magician

5:24 AM

Isn't it what, say, D&D does? You want to do something, roll it.

trogdor

you still have fate points and aspects, the ability to help each other, or create advantage

it isn't just "ok I roll something"

personally, I found it increased the drama to have one thing that we didn't know the difficulty of mixed in with all the things we did know that for

Magician

Eh, not what I meant. Unknown difficulty is a hallmark of many other games and/or GMing styles. Fate required re-learning such habits.

And yes, it's always a trade-off between the tension of unknown and the cooperation of the knowing players.

trogdor

well,... its an Umdaar mechanic,.. Umdaar was all about doing things differently from all the other types of fate that existed

and I imagine the whole point of it was to cut down on "I spam my best approach"

Magician

Right. I'm just not sure why it has to be tied to cliffhangers - you can occasionally have obscured difficulty in any circumstances, as desired.

If anything, this would address the common (if misunderstood) complaint about spamming approaches in FAE in general.

trogdor

well, putting it in only cliffhangers gives you a guideline that you can use to make sure you don't obscure too much

other than that,... you could always just decide to obscure or not obscure stuff, I agree with you there

BESW

5:30 AM

Totally unrelated villain stunt:

> Taunting cameo. Once per adventure you can appear in a scene and make a Provoke attack against all the PCs present. If it's hard to believe you could appear in the scene, this costs a fate point. You can also spend a fate point to prevent your targets from using stress tracks to absorb your attack.

Magician

@trogdor It just seemed like a minor aside in the cliffhanger description, too easily missed to have been deliberate.

BESW

...are we arguing Fate RAI?

trogdor

I have not read it recently

I didn't think we were

Magician

Not arguing as such.

Anyways. Yes, cliffhangers do sound interesting. Not sure if they need adjustments as such to run them in Robo - is there a reason assigning difficulties to skills as they're offered by players wouldn't work? You could identify a couple of easy/moderate/hard skills beforehand, and adjust the numbers, but that's about it.

trogdor

well, I imagine the major difference in Robo is that you are not using approaches anymore

and now you have a much larger skill pool, no absolute guarantee that any skill will be maxed out, and even if any are only a certain number could be

all of those make obscuring difficulty much less needed, and in my personal opinion much less desired

they can't just spam their best skill/s if you have multiple skills as a requirement to beat the challenge

Magician

5:37 AM

@trogdor But you don't, at least not in the way it's described. If you find the best approach/best couple of skills, you can use those repeatedly.

trogdor

unless you accidentally or deliberately made all the skills the best skills of your party (and then,..... yeah that would be your own theoretical fault XD)

@Magician hmm,... ok question then,... why are you asking this?

Magician

It's not my question! :D

trogdor

oh, what are we talking about then?

did someone post a question on this?

oh, yes ideed

BESW

I'm about to.

trogdor

well, you are about to and you also already did

sorry, I just sorta assumed a lot

BESW

5:41 AM

@Magician As much as the question's been asked as of now, you did.

trogdor

@Magician if it works the way you described, it seems like taking out the obscurity of the rolls just isn't divorce-able from the whole mechanic

BESW

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Q: Is concealed difficulty an integral part of the cliffhanger scene form?

The "Cliffhangers" section in Masters of Umdaar says that the difficulties for rolls should be concealed until rolled against: Of course, GMs, don’t reveal a difficulty for a specific approach until a player attempts it—let them stumble around to see which methods are more effective. (MoU 28,...

difficulty masters-of-umdaar

Magician

Heee.

BESW

@doppelgreener Thanks for the tag wiki.

Magician

It's curious. "Stumbling around" to figure out how things work is not generally what Fate does. As written, cliffhangers introduce a different kind of experience to the game.

BESW

5:45 AM

Yes.

BESW

6:06 AM

Spaaaaam in the Stack!

3

[collapses]
Thought you ought to flag.

4

lisardggY

Nothing to flag by the time I got there.

Good morning, also, yes.

BESW

Under three minutes. Nice.

doppelgreener

@BESW I got to write one for one of my favourite games. :') Thanks for the opportunity!

@BESW very stylish announcement, haha :D

@Magician @BESW Come to think of it, it probably at least helps with the level of tension involved.

BESW

@doppelgreener That's about all I've been able to come up with, yeah.

Which is curious since Fate isn't usually interested in that kind of player-level recreation of character-level emotion.

doppelgreener

6:31 AM

@BESW I think it often is! Think of super meaty possible compels.

Some of those are "you're gonna call up Ronan and challenge him to a fight" which would just be hilarious despite Drax being furious and pumped up. Sometimes their reaction would be totally in tune though.

BESW

My point; compels sometimes evoke parallel emotions, but aren't designed to do so consistently.

Compare Cthulhu Dark's demand that the mechanic of gaining Insanity be role-played vigorously (with the knowledge both in and out of character that it's a step toward The End for the character), or Umdaar's cliffhanger creating the "stumbling around for an answer" effect in players at the same time as in characters.

Or, more pointedly, the exhortations in My Life With Master that the GM role-play the Master to evoke dread and loathing in the players, including telling the GM to invade the players' personal space when playing interactions between the Master and the player's Minion.

Or Dogs in the Vineyard being built on moral quandaries designed to evoke gut-level reactions in players, fuelling escalating intraparty conflict.

I don't see anything in compels that tries to consistently create that kind of fiction-to-player synchronicity.

doppelgreener

No, that's definitely not a mechanic interested in consistently trying to create that. But I don't think it's accurate to say Fate usually isn't interested in creating that synchronicity. Or at least - it's not uninterested. Its mechanics don't drive for that but could totally create that.

And they don't work against it either. It is interested in keeping a certain separation of experience, but separation of emotion can circumstantially be there or not

BESW

6:50 AM

Right, that's what I mean by disinterest: the mechanics don't have much to say about that aspect of play. They can be used for or against it depending on the group and the scenario, but the system itself is neutral on the subject.

doppelgreener

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@BESW I won't stand for this... this neutrality!!

BESW

[sigh] Yes, sir.

doppelgreener

:D

trogdor

7:45 AM

@doppelgreener lol

BESW

9:11 AM

I'm asking the Time and Relative Dimensions in Spoilers chat for help identifying Doctor Who stories where the villain's plan doesn't require the Doctor. If anybody would like to help, please feel free to join us.

(Right now it's just me, but other folks will drop by eventually.)

Polyducks

@BESW I get this reference

Polyducks

9:40 AM

@BESW Don't they all involve the doctor eventually?

trogdor

only if they are good at improvising

OR if he tricks them into making him part of their plans

but for this he wouldn't even be in the story

BESW

@Polyducks Yes, but that's very different from the Bad Things requiring the Doctor to progress.

BESW

10:20 AM

VTC off topic: "read me this book I don't have"

lisardggY

@BESW So basically the question is "I want to play Game X but can't afford the rulebook so can you slowly give me the entire contents of the book, bit by bit, question by question"?

BESW

@lisardggY Bingo.

We... don't do that. For many many reasons.

lisardggY

Also, I have tickets to Civil War tomorrow evening, so whoo.

BESW

Oooer.

I'm gonna talk to my RPG group this weekend to see if they want to join me next weekend to see it, as a Captain America movie for my birthday makes me happy.

Miniman

@BESW Also, if that user is who I think they are, this will be their...seventh account, I think?

BESW

10:29 AM

Loverly

Flag to that effect?

Miniman

I'm not certain enough to make that leap.

BESW

Flag with speculation.

Miniman

Having gone and checked the other accounts and found the identical gravatar, I'm suddenly a whole lot more confident.

BESW

[makes Lovecraftesque tag wiki]

I'm on a roll, asking questions about publications without existing tags.

Miniman

Does markdown work in flag text?

BESW

10:38 AM

I'm not sure, never having seen the other end of a flag.

Miniman

@BESW Because they're always planted in the ground?

BESW

Yes, that's why.

...I wonder how many other legitimate questions I have for systems that don't have a tag yet.

[links Lovecraftesque question to one of the game's designers]

trogdor

11:26 AM

@BESW I would be cool with this idea

SirTechSpec

12:36 PM

Just reviewed my first post, wooo!

BESW

@SirTechSpec Grats!

SirTechSpec

Kinda glad it was this one that tipped me over the edge, as I really don't think "armor weighs what it says it weighs" is really my most valuable contribution to the site XD

BESW

@SirTechSpec No space between the ] and the (.

SirTechSpec

Thanks, I'm on mobile at the moment and it likes to helpfully put in extras for me

Anyway, off to do that thing I do to support my gaming habit, aka day job ;)

Ttfn!

BESW

@DaveRandom [wave]

DaveRandom

12:52 PM

Err... hi! I'm just experimenting with breaking chat (working on this bot to try and support multi-room/multi-site) and I typed a random chat.SE URL in to see what would happen.

But o/

David Wilkins

1:04 PM

How very random of you @DaveRandom

DaveRandom

:-D

David Wilkins

Also, if you hadn't noticed, you managed - in your randomness - to "turn it up to 11"

DaveRandom

Well I normally live here (which is how I ended up in #11)

Joshua Aslan Smith

3:54 PM

@waxeagle @kmallory @Grubermensch @Shalvenay @RobertF game time tonight?

wax eagle

4:56 PM

@JoshuaAslanSmith nah, I gotta go row a boat, and then set up someone's fitbit

Gruber is gone next week too so back on the 19th

Joshua Aslan Smith

understood

fitbit are like on the edge of priceyness for me

wax eagle

5:11 PM

yeah, they are kind of pricey. I've got an alta and really like it, definitely works better if you also have a person helping motivate you. Myn's been wearing one for about a year, but she really got serious about getting her steps in when I got mine and we were both doing it together.

Shalvenay

10:05 PM

@JoshuaAslanSmith negative as well, b-day to attend

Ben

11:23 PM

What's the coolest dice bag you've seen?

BESW

Does "coolest" have to include points for "practicality"?

Ben

Practicality is always a necessity

BESW

Then my friend's soda tab chainmail bag is out.

Ben

Haha

I was thinking I want to create some variation of the 5e depiction of the bag of holding - turn it into a dice bag somehow

BESW

My Kickstarter-exclusive dice bag is functional, simple, and rare, so that's nice.

There's the fantastic dice bag.

Eidolon108

11:30 PM

dat face

Ben

@BESW The downside is I don't own that many dice

I've seen some dice boxes that were pretty cool

BESW

Lately I've been using my fate bag, a Crown Royal bag given to me by someone a long time ago, and an embroidered shoulderbag from a local store.

They sit in a wooden salad bowl on my table, along with my fate tokens in a gem pouch, and some little chopstick bowls for individual players' dice.

(Helps keep the dice under control during the game; we also roll inside the wooden bowl to reduce dice-under-couch syndrome.)

Ben

@BESW I need this

nitsua60

11:48 PM

@BESW that's a pretty great bag

BESW

@nitsua60 I'm seriously considering it.

nitsua60

ditto

BESW

It seems to be sold out, though.

nitsua60

though I'm pretty happy with my nested bags right now: one small bag holds the set I use (2x(2d20,d12,d10,d8,2d6,d4) in two colors), two small bags each with 3xpolyhedral set (2 of one color, one of a second) for players who need some. These three bags and all of my "other" dice go into a big dice bag. It works.

@BESW indubitably because of this link

Well, shoot.

I remember some system that had encumbrance rules that got down to the level of how quickly one could retrieve things, based on how many competitors for your hand/attention were in their container. Made nesting packs and sacks really useful. GURPS, perhaps?

BESW

Sounds GURPSy.

nitsua60

11:56 PM

similar bag for $12 on Amazon

(and you can stack 3-4 of them in your 5-gal bucket!)

Shalvenay

hey @ben and @nitsua60

Ben

o/

Shalvenay

@Ben how're things going? also, you think you'll be around tomorrow night?