@eimyr It misses out (city of London (City of London) )

@Adeptus Wow! I never knew about this. That's realy impressive.

I think I first saw it posted here? I love the summary at the end "A city in a city, in a country in a country"

@Adeptus wait, what the heck?

this is not something I have ever even heard of before

of course, the least surprising thing is that this is a thing that happened in the UK

I mean, they still keep the royal family around, so this isn't surprising in that context

@Adeptus "Because... Romans" ranks right up there with "because... reasons," methinks.

well, the Romans most definitely had a weird MO that was worthy of being used as a shorthand explanation of certain things

yeeeeeessssssss

(That's ^^ your favorite argument for you, @doppelgreener)

Now that's weird - that comment didn't get starred at the time, which 4 people are going through the transcript starring stuff hours later?

Which comment? (because maybe, me)

I mean, I'm not gonna hide it, I go through the transcript every morning.

I don't see the reason anyone would need to hide it

Hey, I don't know what's weird to other people.

I gave up trying to guess that sort of thing a long time ago.

@Miniman I think I was the first to star it; I hit it when I came in in the morning and read back.

So, how do you even star stuff from the transcript?

@Miniman Do you see a little dropdown arrow to the left of a chat message when you hover the cursor over it?

Oh, right! Never realised that shows up on the transcript.

@Miniman I don't think I was in the transcript, though. I usually (and, perhaps, sadly) hit "load to last message" when I first hit chat for the day and can start reading there. Most days (this is the perhaps-sad part) it doesn't say "too far back, see transcript."

I starred it after it appeared on the star bar.

@BESW i too did this

Morning all

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I thin I'd rather be a particle now.

Fine.

Let me change the measurement.

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Right, there we go!

Setting hook: Space garbage truckers cleaning up dead satellite debris from Earth's orbit.

@doppelgreener I think that hook came up earlier!

mornin

@Anaphory i too have this suspicion. NEVERTHELESS!

Nevertheless? EVEN MORE SO!

Hello folks

hi ::)

hiya

@Momonga-sama ohla

surprise chat's not flooded with princess talk again this morning

oh wiat, sorry, wrong room

that was movie's yesterday

however, it's not totally unthinkable that we'd get flooded by princesses

see, for instance, chat.stackexchange.com/…

@doppelgreener One suggestion she makes is security deposits for launches, redeemable upon disposal. So I see your space garbage truckers working on commission, dragging them all back to a central depot to cash in. Space western!

@nitsua60 Oh, nice. Of course, security deposits are invested with interest accrued so that it's still worthwhile claiming them after 100 years of inflation. The space garbage truckers could work on commission for a cut of the deposit (the owners get the rest), or find abandoned satellites with no owners left to claim the deposit and claim 100% of it themselves.

Room for poaching, "satellite rustlers", lawpersons....

Mal Reynolds...

Grateful Dead bootleg tapes...

There's probably a few satellites legendary among space garbage truckers for having enormous abandoned deposits at this point, but nobody knows how to identify them, or they're too dangerous to collect. Of course, bringing in any old satellite and hoping it's one of those is too risky; there's enormous penalties for collecting an unexpired satellite.

Folks, do you know a system with shittones of undead, where it is always extremely easy to die?

Something horror-based.

@Momonga-sama that's basically the dnd campaign I'm playing in

Nah

Something created exactly for horror

@Momonga-sama I know systems with just one or the other, but not both. Morts has a lot of undead but no lethality, Great Ork Gods has high lethality but it's about orks. Could feature undead. Isn't horror though. Cthulhu Dark is more about cosmic horror.

Also, please avoid swear words here in this room, for reasons of keeping a welcoming atmosphere.

All Flesh Must Be Eaten is a zombie game that's described as gritty and realistic for horror play, maybe that'll be down your alley?

We've also considered adapting games like Roll for Shoes for serious zombie horror games. It'd need some changes though to address the nature of injuries, since Roll for Shoes has no concept of harm nor the effects it would have.

@Momonga-sama a system that is focussed on fighting against Zombies and dying?! well... Apocalypse World can cater the zombie apocalypse, but it is not really that high mortality. Cthulhu (any version) usually caters other than zombie horrors, but could be clearly used, and you go insane as fast as you die.

@Momonga-sama if you want, you could use pathfinder or D&D3.5, and just ignore the suggested CR of monsters and throw ****loads of undead on them.

@Trish As much as I love AW, I would not have brough it up here at all – it qualifies none of the points.

@Momonga-sama otherwise... check out zombieplace.com/tabletop-zombie-rpg

@Momonga-sama, what will be the positive message or focus of your stories?

I mean something like to anything to survivle

Most favorably in middleages

So medieval zombie survival? Do you imagine the protagonists of the story will die often (guaranteed to happen inside of a session or within a few sessions), rarely (it's viable that someone may one day die, but they're very unlikely to) or never (story shouldn't be about that at all)?

If they are too brave or stupid, yes they will die.

Main idea would be "run for your life".

Right, so not like Great Ork Gods where players are expected to see their Ork die multiple times per session -- and not like Fate where character death is to be avoided unless it's a seriously compelling and worthwhile option for everybody.

I have a question I'd like to ask but not sure if it really fits here, because I'm not sure what the answer could be. Basically, as a wedding gift my friends gifted to me the OD&D box set that Wizards recently re-released, and I just want to know how the heck do I even begin playing. I know at a minimum, without the Chainmail rules, that it requires reading through the Greyhawk supplement, but do I start with Of Men and Magic and read straight through the books or what?

@LegendaryDude reddit.com/r/dnd might be able to help you

@LegendaryDude that would be where the expert subjective advice part of our mission would come forward. That sounds like an ok question here — "where do I begin with this and learn to play it?"

@doppelgreener narf?

lol

@doppelgreener Aaaaahhh... I always, in my head, had that pronounced and spelled more like "narv" or "narve".

@nitsua60 Also, computer tech uses rare metals. Even otherwise useless space junk can be treated as ore for metals which are increasingly rare on the planet--someday we'll be mining our landfills for the same reason.

To my mind, a space junker game should probably explore solarpunk themes.

It'd be about the transition to more sustainable ways of living, and reclaiming/repurposing the remnants of old unsustainable practices.

(I'm the guy who floated the idea earlier, and have given it a bit of thought.)

Would any of you happen to know where the 4E character builder can be found?

Failing that, the Earth domain for the warpriest?

The official 4e D&D Insider services are no longer available unless you already have a subscription.

Source.

@BESW good call

@nitsua60 I really like the idea of a game about the responsible but adventurous innovations we'll need to explore in the near future. It's very much sci-fi at its finest.