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Q: Can the creature created by a Simulacrum spell be affected by healing magic?

12:43 AM

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Relevant rules for Simulacrum: The duplicate is a creature, partially real and formed from ice or snow, and it can take actions and otherwise be affected as a normal creature. And: If the simulacrum is damaged, you can repair it in an alchemical laboratory, using rare herbs and minerals...

dnd-5e

Would it be appropriate to broaden the scope of this question re: Simulacrum, or should I open a new one? Far more of the spell description seems up in the air then I thought at first.

wax eagle

@JustinT what do you want to ask further?

Does the Simulacrum have class or racial features? What are the implications of the line regarding spell slots?

Originally I just took it to mean a simple, exact duplicate of Bob the level 10 Fighter, but with half the hit points and possibly some doubt about how he heals. But now I'm reading it as creating a creature only, a Human that happens to look like Bob, but is otherwise not a fighter at all.

^ I have added these comments as... comments on the question.

Adeptus

1:56 AM

This sequence of messages amused me:

8 hours ago, by kviiri

Elections like going to the doctor to find what illness your country has next.

7 hours ago, by Pixie

Is voting to close something I can do at my rep level? I thought it was, but when I actually need to it seems like I can never find the option. Hence my not on that question.

"I vote to close the government, it's off-topic"

So, @Shalvenay and @Emrakul: What times/days are best for you? I can do weekdays between 23:30 and 04:00 UTC, and pretty much any time on the weekend. I'd prefer a weekend, generally speaking. I'm still waiting on harlandski to get back to me about what times are better for them.

@DuckTapeAl -- I might be able to squeeze something in Sunday afternoons my time

@JustinT You should probably ask your question about a simulacrum getting class abilities as a separate question.

2:26 AM

@waxeagle Be a while before I get there then. xD

Also, skills in 3.5 frustrate me now that I'm used to Pathfinder. :P

Adeptus

@Pixie Pathfinder has 1 rank per level, is that right?

@Adeptus 1 rank per level, all cost 1 point per rank, and you get a bonus when you put points into a CS (I forget the exact amount, been a while since I built).

+3.

That's right.

Also, Spot and Listen were combined, Use Rope and Concentration aren't skills, etc.

It's to bypass the whole "max rank of 3+ character level" thing from 3.5.

Hey, at least it doesn't have Ambidexterity anymore. :)

2:36 AM

I suppose. :P

Adeptus

2:57 AM

@DuckTapeAl Ambidexterity was a Feat in 3.0, and removed from 3.5 (its benefit was included in Two-Weapon Fighting feat)

Yeah, that was what I was saying. 3.5 might have some older systems, but it's not as bad as 3.0.

3:56 AM

Afternoon all

I have a question in regards to the Dragonborn rules in the Players handbook

in D&D 5e

4:13 AM

Yes?

Do dragonborn get wings/tails at any point? I've been told at some point they do, but I can't find it in the PH

That sounds like a good main site question.

I did post one up (and have since deleted it) because people thought it was poorly researched

Typically, it's a good idea in that kind of situation to describe the sources that you've already checked.

I'll give it a shot :)

4:20 AM

And to say who told you that dragonborn get wings.

That way, you can show that you've researched your answer.

If PHB doesn't say they get wings, they probably don't get wings. There may be "monster" dragonborn with wings in MM, and there was en epic destiny (or was it a paragon path?) in 4e that made them more dragon-like, so there could be something to that effect at later levels - now or in a future book.

I'm guessing it's a thing that you heard from someone quoting a 4e source.

user61230

I'll get back to you in a bit, sorry

@Magician -- in 5e dragonborn are the PC race, half-dragons are the NPC template

@Shalvenay Sure, they were a PC race starting with 3e Eberron. But they are also represented in MMs, along with human bandits and elven archmages. And "monsters" get to do things players don't, like be more draconic.

4:35 AM

@Magician -- what I'm saying is that 5e makes the distinction hard and fast. 3.x allowed for both half-dragons and dragonborn as PC races AIUI

@Magician and have wings, which are totally metal

@Shalvenay in 3e half-dragons were a template, and probably not available to players until Savage Species came out.

let me check my PHB on dragonborn tho

What are you checking it for?

just double checking

and yeah, PHB says dragonborn get neither wings nor a tail (p.32)

4:40 AM

He's thinking of Sorcerer Draconic Bloodline Wings, I'm sure.

I suspect that half-dragons don't get functional wings or a tail either, based on the template in the 5e MM

According to Ben he doesn't actually have a PHB... hence his questions that could be solved by reading the book.

@JustinT -- that he is

doesn't come 'til 14th level

tho

The artwork for the Half-Dragon in the MM has a tail, but it has no special attacks that utilize it.

Many creatures have tails. Very few fight with them.

4:51 AM

Now I'm imagining a lion trying to do a tail-sweep.

I am imagining its tail gently thumping against my leg, then the lion visibly sighing.

If the lion tries too hard, it might sprain its tail.

... I think I might have just lost all the spells I just picked out to a save error on Plothook. Lovely. =w=

noooooooooooooooooooooooooo T_T

i know what that feels like

... ohh! I somehow had two tabs of the same character sheet open. One of them still had the right stuff on it, and it saved properly. Yay. xD

4:59 AM

Hooray!!

Yeah. I have to go to bed soon, so I would have been scrambling to get them done tomorrow night.

Grubermensch

5:16 AM

woah a lot of idlers in the room tonight

lisardggY

5:32 AM

Or maybe the regular bunch of invisible idlers are simply more visible today?

5:51 AM

Come to think of it, I think something's actually broken.

There's a server component that considers you as having left the room after you have your browser closed for a while. The past couple of days, I've signed on and found myself still present in all my rooms, not having to click "rejoin favourite rooms" or anything.

Iron Heart

harlandski was "seen 1d ago, talked 1d ago"

if that means anything?

Other chats seem to be suffering a similar malady. Someone should report it on Meta, as I'm not seeing it reported yet.

lisardggY

Let the quiet masses amass, let the silent crowds... encrowd. Let the ghosts fill the halls until the air is thick with their translucent presence, echoes of conversations seeking to drown out the present.

or not. whatever.

6:07 AM

Their bulk will blot out the stars!

Hi, anyone (most probably @doppelgreener) willing to have a look at the tags on my new question please?

And while we're on the topic, I'm sort of on the verge of wondering whether or not it's a good question... maybe some ideas on how to make it a bit better?

And as the trembling hand of the last human on Earth tosses an rpg book onto a weakening fire, the survivor will sigh: "If only we'd listened to the warnings, if only fewer people visited the RPG.SE chat and then left." And then he will tremble no more. And there will be silence.

@doppelgreener (not arguing, merely querying) I didn't think that the dnd-5e should fit there, because while yes, the question relates to 5e, it could be applied to many different game types.

@Ben Answers to specific questions are often useful to a broader range of circumstances than the challenge you're facing. However, answers to broad questions are often too vague to be of much use to anyone.

I'm not sure it needs to be tagged dnd-5e, but it doesn't seem like a bad tag to have.

It's been my experience that it's best to err on the side of over-specificity, especially when the reason for being general is "lots of games are like that." Surprisingly often there's some particular quirk of the system that would otherwise go unaddressed by answers.

harlandski

6:48 AM

@DuckTapeAl @Shalvenay @Emrakul Hi everyone. Sorry for not replying. I hate diary juggling, and doing it across continents is a massive headache.

So here goes with my total availability (understanding that it will probably not fit minus 10-12 hours)

@Ben "this is relevant to loads of other games!" is almost always from D&D players over-estimating how relevant D&D is to other games. (it isn't.)

when in reality those questions are bundled up with the concepts and concerns of D&D and that specific edition of it.

such as: starting equipment. doesn't exist in most games. in others, skipping it is a big deal (like in 13th age, you probably messed up badly if you somehow skipped starting off with equipment). in D&D 3e, probably not a big deal as a couple of levels you are rolling in it compared to what you would've started with.

harlandski

@DuckTapeAl @Shalvenay @Emrakul UTC Saturday 00:00-03:00 (that's my early morning), UTC 16:00 - 19:00 Friday or Saturday (that's my late night).

user61230

Maybe we should plan in Notabar

user61230

(haven't had a chance to check yet)

@doppelgreener Remember this? What would such a thing look like?

6:56 AM

@BESW what would those people look like?

Eeyup.

well, they could truly just look like elves, having totally simply taken control of their bodies' development. they may however not be totally flesh and blood, and carry indicators of that:

harlandski

@DuckTapeAl @Shalvenay @Emrakul If my times work out at all, I'm happy with the Carnival of Carnage game, and am down with anything between Cthulhu-investigator and hack-and-slash

there's lots of fun and fancy ways to present a cyborg.

I'm thinking circuitry tattoos.

So, you're imagining them less "cyborg" in the "we have grafted technology to ourselves" sense and more in the "we have the technology to hack ourselves" sense.

7:09 AM

Exactly

Hmm. [notes]

I'm thinking, among other things, about time travel.

Oh yes?

Oh yes.

Oh my.

Of the elves..?

7:24 AM

Sure.

Are you laying down hints right now or proposing something to talk more about? :P

Q: Chat might be forgetting to count people as leaving the room

8:09 AM

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Usually the chat server will consider you as having all rooms maybe 10-20 minutes after you close all chat tabs. I don't think Chat has been doing this for a couple of days, and there's several signs of this. Whenever I enter a room in the morning, it's the only room I'm in, and I have to join ...

bug chat

@BESW I've reported it. If you're experiencing this on non-RPG chats, or just on RPG chats, I'd appreciate your comment.

ah, looks like it's affecting lots of chat rooms, and also affecting site feeds

lisardggY

9:31 AM

@doppelgreener ...and it's been fixed now. And once again, we are alone, so very alone.